Teiky

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Yeah, he did sell drugs. I don't agree with that decision either, but at least it was to bail her mom out of jail. I still think that there are major leaps in the storyline.

The thing is, they could set it up better so that it doesn't kind of come out of nowhere and just for some girl.. With big KAZOONGAS... And... Goddamnit ;<

Well, technically I'd argue that stealing the exams is stealing something of value, just not monetary value. Of course, that'd bring far too much of the real world into this discussion so it's a moot point and not a valid argument for this game.
Yeah, he tries to convince her, I'm just not sure he quite succeeds in that. It just felt to me that she kind of fell for him and still kind of think of him as a nerd. With a big wang. <-- Extremely important part in all games of this kind.

I get what you guys are saying, I'm just getting different vibes from it and to me, it feels kind of..Meh. Still my favorite storyline because I love Roxxy :D
cant wait for the potential dick mod XD small wang, average wang and horse dick
 

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Am I the only one who has problems with parts of the game itself rather than with its development?

My biggest gripe is with the writing. The entire game has this lack of self awareness that detracts from the entire experience. The MC has no consistent character. He will fluctuate from a relatable everyman to a sniveling masochist to a sneering sadist to a hopeless romantic often within the same route and sometimes within the same scene. The route that most embodies this is the Mia/Helen route. The plot starts as an earnest coming of age romance story, with the MC helping his childhood friend navigate her personal problems. It's a charming story about the girl next door except for when it isn't because it's been interrupted by church themed BDSM scenes. It's like someone intercut Pump Up The Volume with scenes from Bible Black.

Even Roxxy's route, which most people seem to consider the best written, is full of things like this. Much like Mia's route, Roxxy's starts out like a teen comedy. It is ostensibly a fun story full of character growth where the MC wins the heart of the cheerleader, a la Revenge of the Nerds. However, this route is also full of tone shattering moments such as when he burglarises the house of the principle, or cheats on his newly minted lover with her mother while in the same room. However, the part that annoyed me the most was Dexter's fall from grace. One of the scenes meant to show how terrible Dexter is shows him groping one of the girls. We are supposed to hate Dexter for doing this, despite the fact that the MC gropes multiple characters, cums in his mother's panties, fucks his sister in her sleep, spies on his neighbours while they're getting dressed, and cheats with a nurse while at the hospital to check whether he's fertile enough to be able to impregnate his aunt. Even in Roxxy's route alone there are plenty of scenes like this, such as the aforementioned cheating with her mother.

My point is that the game has no consitent internal logic. While it must be admitted that it is a porn game and is thus a literal masturbation fantasy, the constant hypocrisy is still frustrating.

Also, Jenny's new face is repulsive. The way the corners of her mouth jackknife up could only be called a smile in the Glaswegian sense. Her new art is objectively worse.
Maybe they should have done the GTAV approach and intoduche three different MCs, so that each part of the story can be played from a different perspective?

Man, the Trevor story would be interesting ;)
 

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Maybe they should have done the GTAV approach and intoduche three different MCs, so that each part of the story can be played from a different perspective?
I don't want to imagine the work all those redraws would be. :unsure:

That said, I'd like to have a more defined and choice based path through the game. Even though DC seemed to be moving in the other direction, Jenny's update gave me some hope that we may see a little bit more of that in the future. That said, I'm prepared to be disappointed since actual choices which cut of whole scenes, branches, etc. seem to be really unpopular among many players.
 
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I think the problem is that you're expecting a linear story with consistent characters dev, especially for the mc. however the different between SS and the typical visual novel is that there are choices to be made and the availability of choices because the MC suppose to be a reflection of the actual player themselves. So just because an option is available, it doesn't mean you as a player need to take it. and keep in mind, the finished game PROBABLY won't allow you to romance every character in the roster anyway because your relationship with one character might block off your chance with another. BUT like I said just because the option is there doesn't mean YOU, as the player, has to take it.
To further add on this, there will be detriments to multiple paths in the final game where the relationship points are added up and you lack enough for the prom.
 

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Well yeah, but the post that I was referred to earlier at least explains why there's save compatibility issues regarding Eric's content. I still hate it, but it's better to know why I guess...?

Agreed.

Eh, I don't know. To me the word mislead is pretty strong here. I believe he will implement save compatibility some time, I don't really know why he's got a milestone for it though since it should take priority.

I assume that he is going to add a second coder to the project? What exactly is the nature of the milestone?

Well, he is an amateur and to be fair most people aren't good leaders, nor do they know how to control resources or organize work, projects, who does what, enforce deadlines.. You know, the whole shebang.

On a related note, I find most of Summertime Saga's update contains quite a few bugs. Might be related to the release schedule and him not wanting to put it off any more than he has to considering, as I said, he doesn't update frequently.

We're all entitled to one mate :D
I'm pretty sure the save compatability is attached to a vote. I think I've seen it once.
 
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Wonder what would they do with Erik? More sex between the MC and Erik's mom? or just more interaction with him like buying him games and such?
I'm guessing a bit more sex with his mom. But I also think that they are adding gay options with both Eric and Kevin, so I'm guessing that for the first rework it might focus on Eric's storyline.
 

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Wonder what would they do with Erik? More sex between the MC and Erik's mom? or just more interaction with him like buying him games and such?
As far as I see it, DC is not that happy with Erik's quests as they are. All those buying quests were likely done because they had to save time, so I'd expect some of those to be replaced with better ones. Next to that DC said that he wants to make Erik the best friend he's meant to be. Right now all MC does is buying stuff for him and even Kevin seems to be more of a bro.

Else we'll certainly get a few more scenes and I'd expect DC to get rid of the whole "cucking Erik" theme in June's story, which he said he didn't like that much either.
 
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j4yj4m

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Reminds me of my relief back in the 0.13-0.14 days when I found out Mia wasn't the trap
In case of Eve I'll only rest once her story is out. Sploosh saying that they may produce a male and female version of that trap arc to appease fans just stuck with me. That said, I really love the trolling potential and by now it's actually the first update ever I'm really interested in.
 

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As far as I see it, DC is not that happy with Erik's quests as they are. All those buying quests were likely done because they had to save time, so I'd expect some of those to be replaced with better ones. Next to that DC said that he wants to make Erik the best friend he's meant to be. Right now all MC does is buying stuff for him and even Kevin seems to be more of a bro.

Else we'll certainly get a few more scenes and I'd expect DC to get rid of the whole "cucking Erik" theme in June's story, which he said he didn't like that much either.
/Sarcasm
The Eric update, 4 months of work that add 2 new scenes, and take away 2 old ones. Can't wait!
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DC should make Eric and Kevin both gay and they can have eachother. Win win.
 
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