Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[Hero1]

Which - in turn - makes the fact that there's a lot of complaints going on on the patreon comments even worse I'd say.

Depends on your definition of "a lot of complaints".

He currently has 17391 Patrons. Under his latest Patreon post are 607 comments. Assuming every single one is a complaint from one single person without repetition, that's ~3,5% of Patrons. Let's be generous and add all comments from his last 5 posts (607+315+15(higher tier Patrons only)+248+73(Patrons only)), that's 1258 potential complainers. If every single one were a unique Patron, that would be ~7,3%.
In both cases over 90% of Patrons aren't complaining.

Just because the vocal part of the community is complaining, doesn't mean it represents the general Patreon population.

 

[SCynic]

Depends on your definition of "a lot of complaints".

He currently has 17391 Patrons. Under his latest Patreon post are 607 comments. Assuming every single one is a complaint from one single person without repetition, that's ~3,5% of Patrons. Let's be generous and add all comments from his last 5 posts (607+315+15(higher tier Patrons only)+248+73(Patrons only)), that's 1258 potential complainers. If every single one were a unique Patron, that would be ~7,3%.
In both cases over 90% of Patrons aren't complaining.

Just because the vocal part of the community is complaining, doesn't mean it represents the general Patreon population.

THIS. Anyone who does any sort of business at all knows that very few people will leave comments or reviews saying how much they enjoy so.ething, but everyone with the slightest issue wants to write a negative review exaggerating that issue. The better the product or service, the more people who use it, and thus the more negative reviews. Those negative review do not reflect the overall opinion of the mass of the customer base, however. Not even close.

 

[j4yj4m]

Just because the vocal part of the community is complaining, doesn't mean it represents the general Patreon population.

And that doesn't even account for the fact that you can comment without being a paying patreon. All you need is an account and you can write as much as you like.

 

[Jonboy80]

That was my theory too, after Sploosh(?) said that giving the reason for Eve's update being so large would be 'spoilery'

I'm leaning towards Eve being a transgender/futa option. A choice you make early in her line will dictate which story path you take with her. One path, she's full-blown female. The other path, she's actually a guy or straight up futa.

 

[2xjj]

I'm leaning towards Eve being a transgender/futa option. A choice you make early in her line will dictate which story path you take with her. One path, she's full-blown female. The other path, she's actually a guy or straight up futa.

They already confirmed who ever the trap is trans

 

[Jonboy80]

They already confirmed who ever the trap is trans

Plans can always change though. One should learn to never take planned content at face value for that reason.

 

[j4yj4m]

Plans can always change though. One should learn to never take planned content at face value for that reason.

DC talked about it (and I think there even was a picarto poll back then) and the result basically was, that Futa would be too much of a stretch because they don't exist in realitiy and that he wants to keep it somewhat real in that regard. So I'd say the chance for any futa content is probably pretty slim and I'm personally quite happy about that, to be honest.

 

[Jonboy80]

DC talked about it (and I think there even was a picarto poll back then) and the result basically was, that Futa would be too much of a strech because they don't exist in realitiy and that he wants to keep it somewhat real in that regard. So I'd say the chane for any futa content is probably pretty close to zero and I'm personally quite happy about that to be honest.

Was this before or after Daisy and Aqua? Because reality pretty much flew out the window with that.

 

[j4yj4m]

Was this before or after Daisy and Aqua? Because reality pretty much flew out the window with that.

I think it was after Aqua's update and I'd say it's important to see that the monster girls are additional content and not part of any major story. If you don't look very hard, you won't find them and the game will still feel complete. I'm sure that many people simply would never look for Aqua without the cookie jar. The schoolgirls on the other hand are a central part of the game. Sure, it's not the best argument but I can understand that he wouldn't want to spoil a somewhat serious "trans-story" by adding a futa.

 

[Jonboy80]

I think it was after Aqua's update and I'd say it's important to see that the monster girls are additional content and not part of any major story. If you don't look very hard, you won't find them and the game will still feel complete. I'm sure that many people simply would never look for Aqua without the cookie jar. The schoolgirls on the other hand are a central part of the game. Sure, it's not the best argument but I can understand that he wouldn't want to spoil a somewhat serious "trans-story" by adding a futa.

I don't mind either way, to be honest. I guess, after so long playing videogames, I've come to expect plans to change during the development cycle. If futa is added, I'm fine with it. If it's just trans, I'm fine with that too.

 

[rockd]

DC talked about it (and I think there even was a picarto poll back then) and the result basically was, that Futa would be too much of a stretch because they don't exist in realitiy and that he wants to keep it somewhat real in that regard. So I'd say the chance for any futa content is probably pretty slim and I'm personally quite happy about that, to be honest.

Citing Futa as unrealistic is kinda dumb given that people wiht both sex organs are existing. It would be much closer to reality than cow girls or other monster girls. So it is more about his and his audience's preferences than realism.

 

[pgXIII]

Is it true that the trap was confirmed if so who is it?

 

[j4yj4m]

Citing Futa as unrealistic is kinda dumb given that people wiht both sex organs are existing.

Na it isn't really dumb. Sure, there are people with both sex organs but it's usually and to put it politely "quite a mess" in that case. What you'll see in hentais etc. indeed doesn't exist in reality. You simply won't find the combination of a real dick and a real vagina. It's phsyically impossible.

And as said, when it comes to realism there's a difference between "hidden" bonus content and actual main content. It's not the best argument but it still does make a lot of sense in my opinion

 

[Deleted member 435]

98% now guys it's going to be released tomorrow confirmed

 

[zeppelin]

Depends on your definition of "a lot of complaints".

He currently has 17391 Patrons. Under his latest Patreon post are 607 comments. Assuming every single one is a complaint from one single person without repetition, that's ~3,5% of Patrons. Let's be generous and add all comments from his last 5 posts (607+315+15(higher tier Patrons only)+248+73(Patrons only)), that's 1258 potential complainers. If every single one were a unique Patron, that would be ~7,3%.
In both cases over 90% of Patrons aren't complaining.

Just because the vocal part of the community is complaining, doesn't mean it represents the general Patreon population.

I think that's where the term "paypigs" comes from. People that pay you no matter how much you screw them over.

 

[Giseme2233]

98% now guys it's going to be released tomorrow confirmed

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And after tmr, we still have to wait for another day because of the bugs/fix got its total number added
Watched endgame but still on 97%

 

[Jonboy80]

I think that's where the term "paypigs" comes from. People that pay you no matter how much you screw them over.

How are they being screwed over? I've yet to see one argument where DC is actually screwing anyone over. He's working at the same pace he always have, except that his releases are getting larger and larger. He's fulfilled all "promises" (if you want to use that word) he's made in regards to development.

No one is getting screwed over. There's just a handful of entitled people who think they he should work faster to suit their own personal wants.

 

[McSlut]

Honestly can't see the whole "trap" thing happening, since DC already removed the Jenny sleepfucking scene as "rapey". "Trap" isn't exactly acceptable term or a scenario either these days.

yeah this. eve is going to be the biggest update yet, even if her being a trap is going to be a choice people (inlcuding me) are going to get mad as hell that one of the most popular characters turns out to have a penis. that's why i still think it's going to be annie and it's going to involve a occult ritual to make her the trap, giving you a choice to do it or not to.

i don't even get all this discussion tbh. i don't wanna kink shame anyone but are there really that many people excited about sucking a dick? even if it's attached to a waifu like eve, it's still a fucking dick?!

 

[Jonboy80]

yeah this. eve is going to be the biggest update yet, even if her being a trap is going to be a choice people (inlcuding me) are going to get mad as hell that one of the most popular characters turns out to have a penis. that's why i still think it's going to be annie and it's going to involve a occult ritual to make her the trap, giving you a choice to do it or not to.

i don't even get all this discussion tbh. i don't wanna kink shame anyone but are there really that many people excited about sucking a dick? even if it's attached to a waifu like eve, it's still a fucking dick?!

Not everyone is straight. Nor is everyone so closed when it comes to sex. People like many things. I'm bi-sexual and I have no problem with most anything, except foot fetishes. But I'm not moaning and groaning about Jenny giving the MC a footjob. If it's optional as people are guessing, what does it matter? You take the "Eve is female" path and others take the "Eve is male" path.

What the hell is there to be mad about. If anything, you're being greedy as hell, trying to impose your wants on others by not giving them the choice at all or you getting mad as hell, as you said, about it if they do. What does that entail? You blaming them, ridiculing them, what? It's a fucking game, so there's nothing to get mad as hell about.

 

[McSlut]

Not everyone is straight. Nor is everyone so closed when it comes to sex. People like many things. I'm bi-sexual and I have no problem with most anything, except foot fetishes. But I'm not moaning and groaning about Jenny giving the MC a footjob. If it's optional as people are guessing, what does it matter? You take the "Eve is female" path and others take the "Eve is male" path.

What the hell is there to be mad about. If anything, you're being greedy as hell, trying to impose your wants on others by not giving them the choice at all or you getting mad as hell, as you said, about it if they do. What does that entail? You blaming them, ridiculing them, what? It's a fucking game, so there's nothing to get mad as hell about.

okay i'll try to explain my feelings

i know that not everyone is straight, i'm just astounded by the amount of discussion about it and by the amount of people asking for a trap. the question of who is the trap is probably the most discussed topic in this thread for some reason, right behind "dc is a lazy and updates take too long" and "why can't i use my old saves". i was just wondering are there really that many people here into trap content or is it just trolling? like "haha, i want your favourite character to have a dick lol".
if you are into traps that's totally fine, i'm just saying you are probably a small minority and people are going to get mad if the favourite girl they waited for turns out to have a penis.

one more thing if the trap thing is a simple choice that you'd have to make at the beginning that'd also be really disappointing to me. why? because if eve suddenly turns out to have a dick i want the MC to acknowledge that. it has to be a story thing to make sense. so dc would have to make two stories, one with eve as with a vagina and one with a dick. which means lots of people who are not into one or the other are going to miss out on a lot of story. dc would also have to make different looking and working sex scenes. that's why i prefer that the character either is a trap or not. the other way would be that the MC wouldn't really acknowledge eve having a dick, which would also be pretty lame if you ask me.