Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[Badjourasmix]

The thing is, his patrons (you know the people who actually pay for the game) voted for this. He made a poll asking if people wanted smaller and more frequent updates, or bigger updates, and people voted for the bigger updates knowing they would take more time.

 

[Omnikuken]

They also voted against widescreen support

 

[Badjourasmix]

Yeah but DC is working on it anyway, it's just not gonna be implemented now. My point is the ones complaining are almost always non patrons the people that pay for the game know what he is doing and are ok with it.

 

[Omnikuken]

^ All girls will get preg someday. He needs to redo most of the game anyway, adding preg sex while remaking them won't be too much hassle

Yeah but DC is working on it anyway, it's just not gonna be implemented now. My point is the ones complaining are almost always non patrons the people that pay for the game know what he is doing and are ok with it.

After being on a Discord mod team for a Patreon game almost 3 years, we came to the conclusion that : "the less you pay, the more you whine". Applies to every Patreon game so far

 

[Badjourasmix]

I mean if you only count sex scenes I guess you could call them small. But I think most people haven't realized yet, that it's only a four man team working on the game and unlike most games on this forum, he isn't using assets from other games. All you see on the screen when you play it, is created by them. Every item, background, sex scene and minigame is handdrawn. All of that takes a lot of time.

 

[JeefZ]

I'm just playin this for the first time now and Iv'e finished with Eve and her sister already.... I dont want to read into this to spoil the rest for me but can someone tell me there's more with them 3?

 

[Evans15]

I'm just playin this for the first time now and Iv'e finished with Eve and her sister already.... I dont want to read into this to spoil the rest for me but can someone tell me there's more with them 3?

Remember, there can't be incest in the game, so if they are sisters there can't be a sex scene with the two of them at the same time.

 

[Deleted member 1064697]

why would he speed up and finish the game when he recieves money for being slow? people keep donating to devs who are slow on purpose, if he finished the game tomorrow nobody would be donating him anymore

 

[Omnikuken]

I'm just playin this for the first time now and Iv'e finished with Eve and her sister already.... I dont want to read into this to spoil the rest for me but can someone tell me there's more with them 3?

Check the cookie jar if you missed anything, if it's not in there, it's not in the game

why would he speed up and finish the game when he recieves money for being slow? people keep donating to devs who are slow on purpose, if he finished the game tomorrow nobody would be donating him anymore

Fascinating

 

[Irrelevantoldguy]

mom pregnancy still waiting on that....

FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY!!! Please allow Debbie to get pregnant!

 

[Omnikuken]

^ She will, when people vote for her update/remake. Like every girl ever in the game

 

[Ranma]

Momma gotta have her babies!

 

[Oriandu]

They also voted against widescreen support

They voted against it because it would have delayed new content. How whiny would people around here be if they only got one update over the course of a year because of the HD update?

 

[Omnikuken]

^ They'd whine the same. We'd just have to cringe through for longer

 

[Hero1]

^ They'd whine the same. We'd just have to cringe through for longer

We're on the internet, people always find reasons to whine.

If DarkCookie released bi-weekly updates containing 20 new scenes each you'd still get people crying about stuff like:
"how come my favourite character only got 5 new scenes and a character I don't care about got 6? with the amount of money he makes he should be able to make 10 new scenes for every character!!111"

 

[Oriandu]

^ They'd whine the same. We'd just have to cringe through for longer

I would expect way louder and more petulant whining with only one update worth of content in a calendar year.

 

[Rule97]

Hi. Asking about the android version, the incest patch doesn't seem to be working, also there are black bars despite having the fullscreen option

 

[j4yj4m]

Hi. Asking about the android version, the incest patch doesn't seem to be working, also there are black bars despite having the fullscreen option

No idea about the incest patch on android, but the black bars can't be changed, given that the game is drawn in 4:3. You'll have to live with them, for now.

I would expect way louder and more petulant whining with only one update worth of content in a calendar year.

In the end it's indeed always good to differentiate between criticism that is legitimate and criticism that isn't. Sure, people will always complain about everything, but it's not like there isn't stuff which could/should/must be improved. And indeed, DC kind of messed up that poll by not making clear at first that it wouldn't happen right away.

And in general, DC is saying for more than a year now, that he'd like to release more updates a year, yet it doesn't seem like we'll "ever" get more than 4 at best. Maybe they'll learn from the main story split and do the same with other updates, as long as it's feasible and as long as the savegame situation allows it.

 

[Omnikuken]

^ We're merely a week off the 2 months mark, they gotta come out of the woodwork at some point to check if stuff happens on the very vague and 100% unofficial release window DC gave last year

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Code and posing doesn't need to wait on art assets if writing is sufficiently advanced and there are storyboards
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Outside of this game, how do you expect posing and coding to do anything if the art isn't done ? You mean a dude can take non-existant art assets (body/face/expressions/etc), use them to make up the girl's "doll" (for lack of better term), put them in no background and make up the whole scene out of thin air ? Then dump all that void and emptyness on the coder to write lines inside the engine to go fetch and display that entire nothingness ? Not mentionning Renpy's tendency to just crap itself if you typo a CG and/or codeline, you now expect it to survive calling up stuff that don't exists ?

 

[j4yj4m]

These ever repeating discussions about art/coding/posing are indeed completely futile by now. It was fine to discuss these things when he started the redesigns and these long updates in 2018 and of course it's fine to have an opinion about them. But now it's mid 2020 and it's very resonable to assume that those who still support him after these 2 years agree with his way of doing things and have adjusted their pledge accordingly, while those who don't agree should have left by now. It takes a few clicks and 5 seconds to adjust or cancel a pledge and if people can't do that they really can't complain about their money.

So @roger545353535353 it's indeed not like with ICSTOR and MilfCity. ICSTOR promised a lot repeatedly, made excuses and in the end delivered nothing, while DC basically delivers what he says he will. That's a massive difference. If someone say he will produce X and delivers X when he says he would, it's neither a scam nor milking.