Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[Dragon59]

On the one hand, I agree, the story with Eve as is currently written makes a "polyamorous" outcome very out of character and honestly makes cheating on her with other girls kinda heartbreaking. I mean, I still do it, cause it's a game and she's not a real person, but the game does a good job of making me feel guilty about it.

Furthermore, the problem with polyamory as the universal solution to make a harem happen is that real, healthy polyamory is always open, mutual, and symmetrical. "He's allowed to fuck as many girls as he wants but he's the only boy I'm allowed to touch" is not polyamory. "I'm not really comfortable being in a non-monogamous relationship, but he wants to fuck other girls and he's so wonderful I'd rather put up with it than lose him" is not polyamory. "He's been fucking as many girls as he pleases behind my back, but when I finally found out I wasn't really bothered enough by it to kick him to the curb" is not polyamory.

All of this is just the fantasy of having patriarchal ownership over multiple women in defiance of cultural norms prohibiting such, dressed up in a more appealing coat of paint. Painting this as polyamory is actually doing a lot of harm to the polyamorous community because this is what people think it is, just a justification weird dudes use cause they want a harem. I honestly have more respect for works that are honest about what they are and present the harem as the misogynist power fantasy that it is. (A game like Free Cities for example, the girls in your harem are literally your property. Your MC is 100% the villain of the story.)


But on the other hand, an Eve/Grace threesome scene *would* be really hot. So who can say which one is right?

Yeah, a number of good points, both of you.

I'm not a fan of OPP (One Penis Policy) in polyamory. There is common situation we see in the poly community, where the male of a M/F couple suggests polyamory, thinking it'll mean more women for him, but soon finds that his partner ends up having more opportunity and can't deal with it.

My first relationship was a MFM triangle, so from my perspective, I would not be adverse to knowing that the LIs are not monogamous with the MC (sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander), but I know the vast majority of the player base would not stand for that.

I would love to see a game where the LIs are as open and free to explore as the MC.

Since a true polyamorous game is very unlikely, having a "harem" game where the LIs are supportive of the other relationship is the best I expect to find here. The games on the other end of that spectrum, where the MC must actively hide and make sure the LIs do not find out about the others are not for me. The games like Free Cities are beyond that spectrum and definitely not for me. I have tossed a few into my recycle bin.

 

[teraptuss]

Hmmmm, well, i`ve got a little Bug found....

Acrotomophilia fetish mod

 

[teraptuss]

I personally don't really like the this whole "hentai/porn logic" thing to be honest, because it often simply leads bad and lazy stories. In the end they invested a lot of story time to build and develop Eve's character and her relationship with MC, to have this really nice and sweet romance and it just seems too far out of character to me. You'd need a lot of dialog and the outcome would probably still be far from good.

As said, I fully agree that the current situation isn't good, but a I don't really see a good way out, either. It's almost tragic that the new scene kinda made it even worse compared to how it was before. But yeah, just writing something to have an ending that's not totally bad seems rather unworthy to me. But that may just be my opinion which is just as good as anybody else's.

I really dig the story arc of Eve and the MC. When ever there is a new patch I will start the game over and kind of ff past most the stuff I have done already except the MC/Eve story line. I will actually take time to let that one play out.

 

[Deleted member 136796]

Do you seriously have to do the pizza minigame 50 fucking times to advance the boat quest, there's no reason for that kind of grind.

 

[gam2000]

Do you seriously have to do the pizza minigame 50 fucking times to advance the boat quest, there's no reason for that kind of grind.

You only have to do it once right.

 

[Omnikuken]

^ With the amount of dudes who come here to moan they have to restart the entire game every time a bugfix comes out, he's not too far off the #. Then again, people do moan for nothing 99%+ of the time

 

[Senigata]

Yeah I was thinking of the latter(the actual sharing in the in best case scenario being reserved for that magical unicorn post-release update).
Considering how heavily Odette keeps hinting towards it there seems to be some author intention behind the message(admittedly there is a point to be made about how that might just be Odette´s character being set up for later drama but...considering the light-hearted nature of the narrative I somewhat doubt that).
Probably important to keep in mind that(at last as far as Eve is concerned,the main plot sadly forcing the MC into cheating being another topic)its not just "other women" but her sister who Eve has repeatedly said she wants to see happy so I dont really see how that would diminish her plotline(going by hentai logic anyway).

Here's the thing, nobody is forced to screw Grace or Odette. And Eve's plot can, afaik, also be done after one has finished the main story since, iirc, the story is split into three branches: 1. Find out who killed father, 2. Get date for prom, 3. Get money for college. So all the romance arcs are kinda meant to be separate from the main plot. So if one desires they can just stay faithful to Eve and never fuck Grace or Odette.

 

[Deleted member 136796]

^ With the amount of dudes who come here to moan they have to restart the entire game every time a bugfix comes out, he's not too far off the #. Then again, people do moan for nothing 99%+ of the time

I've yet to get the hermit dude to spawn or whatever, I just saw that someone threw that number out there and if that's the legit number of times you have to repeat that minigame then I have better shit to do with my time.

 

[Omnikuken]

^ You do it about 1-2 times per vehicule upgrade, then about ~5 times with the chadmobile. So about 10-12 total accross 4 cars and the bike, unless you fail at clicking in time and then you might need to do them more times

 

[Deleted member 136796]

^ You do it about 1-2 times per vehicule upgrade, then about ~5 times with the chadmobile. So about 10-12 total accross 4 cars and the bike, unless you fail at clicking in time and then you might need to do them more times

That's more reasonable, seems the "50 Times" might have been an exageration on that persons part. I'll take back my angery comments and give it another shot, thanks.

 

[MavisFeatherlight]

i have question, im new to this game.
are we able to fuck judith or is handjob her only option?

 

[Omnikuken]

New to the game : yes
Fuck Judith : nope
Handjob only : yes

 

[HammersFan]

How do you get Maria's last scene?

 

[Dragon59]

I really dig the story arc of Eve and the MC. When ever there is a new patch I will start the game over and kind of ff past most the stuff I have done already except the MC/Eve story line. I will actually take time to let that one play out.

That is the arc that sold me on the game.

 

[hotdog10101]

i already done with this nice update good one, btw i check the change log here and at the offcial site, it says there will be new for roxxy? but i dint see that, or maybe it will include at next part?

 

[Viressa]

i already done with this nice update good one, btw i check the change log here and at the offcial site, it says there will be new for roxxy? but i dint see that, or maybe it will include at next part?

It's just a new angle on the existing scene in the trailer.

Since a true polyamorous game is very unlikely, having a "harem" game where the LIs are supportive of the other relationship is the best I expect to find here. The games on the other end of that spectrum, where the MC must actively hide and make sure the LIs do not find out about the others are not for me. The games like Free Cities are beyond that spectrum and definitely not for me. I have tossed a few into my recycle bin.

My ideal "harem" would be a game where all of the girls are like Odette, and actively attempt to set you up with each other. Unfortunately that's something you need to set up in the initial design phase of the story and it's far too late to steer SU into that direction.

 

[Dragon59]

My ideal "harem" would be a game where all of the girls are like Odette, and actively attempt to set you up with each other. Unfortunately that's something you need to set up in the initial design phase of the story and it's far too late to steer SU into that direction.

Yes, Odette's active support would make a harmonic harem a bit more possible. I expect that Odette would need to be a main LI and introduced earlier. Roxxy can't fulfil that role. She's too caught up with her own status/standing and seems to share him with her friends to reinforce her status as their leader and benefactor rather than out of a desire to make them happy. Also, as you suggest, you'd need more than one "Odette" to maintain the process.

In My New Family, Killer7 seems to come close, he has a number of key members participating in a loving chain reaction--largely about the women wanting to share the healing, the positive feelings they get with the MC. Unfortunately, too many of the relationships in StS are discrete, largely unconnected to any other LIs. We have a few connected relationships [(Odette & Grace) (Roxxy, Becca, & Missy) (Debbie & Diane)], but too few to reach a sustainable "critical mass."

I can see reasons why so many expect Eve to be the facilitator. She's the most unconventional of the students and since Odette does a lot to project her own perspective onto her, we want to take Odette's word for Eve's blossoming nature. It's also logical to want to unite the 2/3-1/3 configuration in the house to 3/3. The same with the home 2/3-1/3 situation.

The fact that we have to chose one date for the "prom"/"sorority dance" telegraphs that we're not likely to get that beach house orgy/reverse gangbang.

 

[Sebayer]

hello,i have finished roxxy route and i'm trying to get the locker sex scene but i can't seem to trigger it,i have already hang out with roxxy at the trailer a lot of times now.

am i missing any other steps to trigger it?

Hello, same here.

 

[Hocane]

What this game needs is some more sound effects

 

[sztrb]

And i would love it if we got some Judith content but at this point i am pretty sure that some people are making multiple patreon accounts just to troll people when there is voting on the next update. I still don't understand how Eve keeps getting that many votes. Jenny and Roxxy i understand but Eve and Grace? Why? They are incredibly meh, pretty much worst girls combined with Mia. Misty at least is cute and funny, i'd love me some Misty scenes instead of Eve and Grace scenes.

It doesn't help that Patreon allows for multiple votes per poll (so you can choose more than one option). The polling system isn't the best tbh.

You do realise Eve is THE most popular girl right? Of course she'll dominate every poll. No one is making fake accounts, who is willing to pay multiple times?

Judith just isn't popular, not a hard fact to accept. Even Rhonda and Annie beat her in polls.

Agreed. Eve does have some of the best scenes in the game by far. Her sister's scene is something else though. I would prefer more scenes focused on a few of the more regular characters who have scenes already before the dev goes and creates whole scenarios for other characters.