Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

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Omnikuken said:
Lol, 2nd game isn't coming any time soon, nor is dev time going to it before Summertime is closer to being finished ...... Just because DC talked about and the site(s) list a potential "2nd game", there's been no mention of anything since it appeared as a "maybe" on Patreon ~5 years ago.

They already have trouble releasing stuff on a stable basis and you expect them to shift over to a completely new game at random and dump the 2-3 years worth of content they polled back in 2019 ?
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Then it's still a guarantee they are already thinking about the story for the next title. Maybe the storyline (on paper) is already finished. Ofcourse all the real work still has to be done, but you have to draft out a main story line before you start the new game.

After the Tech update is completed things could go very rapidly all of the sudden.
 
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Energetic said:
Then it's still a guarantee they are already thinking about the story for the next title. Maybe the storyline (on paper) is already finished. Ofcourse all the real work still has to be done, but you have to draft out a main story line before you start the new game.

After the Tech update is completed things could go very rapidly all of the sudden.
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Dunno wtf you're going to with wild suppositions and wetdreams. Why would they have planned a new game when they got 2+ years of polled content to deliver ? Why would DC take time away from his daily stream(s) to draft out a new game instead ? How on Jeebus' flat Earth do you expect 4 dudes who have trouble recoding 1 game within a year manage to start a new game in the same time ?

"After tech update, things could go very rapidly" : well yes, since they won't have to recode the entire game from the ground up and just make sure the R(o)nda stuff doesn't explode upon itself. Bigbrain IQ move there figuring out that won't take the better part of a year like the tech build did.

Maybe I'm missing something from all that or my analysis is spot on ....... A bit confusing
 
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Energetic said:
Then it's still a guarantee they are already thinking about the story for the next title. Maybe the storyline (on paper) is already finished. Ofcourse all the real work still has to be done, but you have to draft out a main story line before you start the new game.

After the Tech update is completed things could go very rapidly all of the sudden.
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So many people in these threads ...
 
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I've no idea whether what they are doing is technically speaking good or bad, but maybe someone else knows? Looks the internal changes are going to be significant at least...
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Technical debt, the bane of every project. Basically they're sorting out a lot of technical debt (redoing stuff that was done poorly or done in a way that no longer fits the needs of the project and is causing issues) as well as essentially doing a significant graphical overhaul. Both parts are tedious as hell, and will take a long time. Good thing in principle, though on the other hand whether it's a good idea to put the team on doing the most tedious stuff imaginable for close to a year non-stop (which would appear to more or less be how long this is going to take) is debatable. Process flow looks sensible. Should mean further development is easier too since technical debt tends to slow down development as it accumulates.
 
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whatever project #2 was or is planned to be i still years and years away and DC changes his mind about things all the time so who knows if it will ever exist. still it's fun to speculate about it. could it be related to summertime saga or be some sort of sequel? will it still be based on the renpy engine or not? will it be another visual novel style adventure or change genres? will it even still be an adult game (the answer to that question is probably yes)?

in theory dc has the money to hire a new team that lays the groundwork for the second game in parallel to the development of summertime saga. he could even hire some other artists that would do his usual work for him while he would take more the position of a game director which would enable him to still work on summertime saga. all of these questions are very interesting but i can already feel Omnikuken getting pissed off while reading this, because this is a summertime saga thread and whatever the next thing will be is still 5 years away so let's get back to discussion of scamming, milking, not-mom's pregnancy and how much we all want to fuck rhonda and when the fucking tech update will finally be finished
 
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RootingForRoz said:
whatever project #2 was or is planned to be i still years and years away and DC changes his mind about things all the time so who knows if it will ever exist. still it's fun to speculate about it. could it be related to summertime saga or be some sort of sequel? will it still be based on the renpy engine or not? will it be another visual novel style adventure or change genres? will it even still be an adult game (the answer to that question is probably yes)?
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It's indeed interesting that he never really mentioned anything substancial I'd know of. Though he did say that it'll have nothing to do with SS and that he won't use Renpy. To me that's fine, SS will have gone more than long enough by then and everybody will be tired... it'll be great to have something new.

Edit: Though I have to say that I have really no idea what his next game could be about. With some guys you just know what they are interested in and what they'd like to work on but in his case I don't think he's got a clear preference out of personal interest.

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he could even hire some other artists that would do his usual work for him while he would take more the position of a game director which would enable him to still work on summertime saga.
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I think we can safely say that won't happen, given that this basically seems to have been his old actual job before he started working on SS game and given that it seems like he doesn't want to go back to that. To me it's pretty clear by now that he wants to draw his own games. If the perfect artists who doesn't need (m)any instructions/corrections/etc. comes around to help, he'll hire him, if not, then it'll be himself until the very end. I'd be happy if he'd find somebody but I totally don't expect it.

Then again, as said in my post above, back when he thought he'd finish SS quickly, he once talked about adding another patreon goal which would have included to hire somebody to do some groundwork with the new engine etc. but he never did it and instead focussed on SS.
 
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maybe they could slowly start project #2 with another smaller team with the lessons learned from STS :unsure:? I mean maybe they don't HAVE to finish STS to start another one specially since DC usually finishes all of his work before everyone else AFAIK
 
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yasenib said:
maybe they could slowly start project #2 with another smaller team with the lessons learned from STS :unsure:? I mean maybe they don't HAVE to finish STS to start another one specially since DC usually finishes all of his work before everyone else AFAIK
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j4yj4m said:
I think we can safely say that won't happen, given that this basically seems to have been his old actual job before he started working on SS game and given that it seems like he doesn't want to go back to that. To me it's pretty clear by now that he wants to draw his own games. If the perfect artists who doesn't need (m)any instructions/corrections/etc. comes around to help, he'll hire him, if not, then it'll be himself until the very end. I'd be happy if he'd find somebody but I totally don't expect it.
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Bruh
 
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srksrk 68 said:
ask yourself how a shovel fits into MC's backpack.
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I actually did that already, and i think better question would be how a goddamn bicycle fits in there.
But oh well, let's just say it's a magic bag, like one of those 'bottomless bags' from fantasy rpg's like Baldur's Gate.
Because we're clearly playing a fantasy game here right? :sneaky:
We even have an Italian dwarf Tony who likes pizza.

.......... i swear if i have to deliver another goddamn pizza...
 
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yasenib said:
maybe they could slowly start project #2 with another smaller team with the lessons learned from STS :unsure:? I mean maybe they don't HAVE to finish STS to start another one specially since DC usually finishes all of his work before everyone else AFAIK
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Well, if there'd be extra time left he should spend it on drawing more sex scenes/angles for existing sex scenes, which are still badly needed.

To you point, yes, DC finishes the work for each update first, but he starts working on the next update right away before the last update is actually released. So it's not like he's sitting on his hands for weeks doing nothing.
 
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j4yj4m said:
To you point, yes, DC finishes the work for each update first, but he starts working on the next update right away before the last update is actually released. So it's not like he's sitting on his hands for weeks doing nothing.
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I didn't say he does nothing, my point is just that if the STS dev pipeline doesn't keep up with the amount of art that he can draw maybe he could slowly start project #2 with another smaller team. He could redo animations, but wouldn't that end up in the same pipeline anyway?
 
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yasenib said:
I didn't say he does nothing, my point is just that if the STS dev pipeline doesn't keep up with the amount of art that he can draw maybe he could slowly start project #2 with another smaller team. He could redo animations, but wouldn't that end up in the same pipeline anyway?
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DC doesn't do animations ......
 
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yasenib said:
I didn't say he does nothing, my point is just that if the STS dev pipeline doesn't keep up with the amount of art...
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Well, in reality that's just not the case. I mean, the thing SS would technically need the most would be a second artist, simply because DC can't produce enough art on his own.
 
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