Omnikuken

Conversation Conqueror
Feb 22, 2018
7,562
7,324
Lmao is using gallery unlocker war crime or something? I did grind this game zero to top for hours but I switch my pc and I don't have any time or investment to do that playthrough again. (thx for the unlocker btw)
It is when the unlocker in question is over 2 years old, ~6 builds behind and only craps out the game when you use it. On top of it being useless since there's 1 in-game already (as posted a few times). Do what you want with the game, but keep in mind you've been warned and your game will assplode if you use it, so don't come crying afterwards. The new "unlocker" made yesterday higher up in the page/thread is still just as useless and will probably crap out everything in a build or 2
 

srksrk 68

Forum Fanatic
Modder
Sep 17, 2018
4,407
5,633
Yeah, no. We're talking about Ren'Py, not a AAA title with the latest version of Unreal Engine. My $800 laptop is overkill for developing Summertime Saga. (6-core Ryzen 5 FTW!) DC needs to pay for Photoshop and, ideally, a laptop with discrete graphics and 12 GB of RAM, connected to one or two 4K monitors. The code developers can use whatever hardware they already have. Hardware costs are $0.

With regard to workload for the programmers, I've seen the size of the codebase. Developing for this game is, at most, enough work for one full-time coder. The Tech Update may be the exception to that rule, if they really are rewriting every script file. I've only rewritten 327 out of 1580 script files. This may well be a big job until it's done, at which point adding new scenes or rewriting existing ones will go back to being a one-person job.
You seem to ignore that using your own hardware may be possible, but maybe you also want to get some profit out of an employment. And, yes, it's not rocket science coding this game, but there is also the story, the humor, the posing and stuff. It's creative work, and that costs time. I agree that a focused team might be much faster. But on the other hand, who will write mods if everything comes out at triple speed and is obsolete after two weeks already?

;)
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Count Morado

ZLZK

Member
Modder
Jul 2, 2017
276
638
It is when the unlocker in question is over 2 years old, ~6 builds behind and only craps out the game when you use it. On top of it being useless since there's 1 in-game already (as posted a few times). Do what you want with the game, but keep in mind you've been warned and your game will assplode if you use it, so don't come crying afterwards. The new "unlocker" made yesterday higher up in the page/thread is still just as useless and will probably crap out everything in a build or 2
I have tried my best for it to work or do nothing.
If update will be required I'll update it.
And if I didn't then you have still buildin cheat,
from button or console command unlock_all_scenes()

And if you are worried about your save,
you can always do backup of persistent file.
 

Omnikuken

Conversation Conqueror
Feb 22, 2018
7,562
7,324
I have tried my best for it to work or do nothing.
If update will be required I'll update it.
And if I didn't then you have still buildin cheat,
from button or console command unlock_all_scenes()

And if you are worried about your save,
you can always do backup of persistent file.
The other unlocker didn't screw your save, it fucked the gallery loading stuff

The question still remains : what's even the point of possibly fucking people over with a wonky file that might screw the game when there's 1 in-game since ~2018 that works and won't do any harm ?
 

ZLZK

Member
Modder
Jul 2, 2017
276
638
The other unlocker didn't screw your save, it fucked the gallery loading stuff

The question still remains : what's even the point of possibly fucking people over with a wonky file that might screw the game when there's 1 in-game since ~2018 that works and won't do any harm ?
The other unlocker is also changing persistent file,
and it doesn't fuck up gallery, gallery is just broken to begin with.
The gallery can't handle empty variants for scenes with variants,
which other unlocker wasn't adding.

It won't screw the game, it only affects persistent file,
that's why I told you can do copy of it and be safe.

It's just alternative and I don't force anyone to use it.
I just did it for purpose of learning Ren'Py and Python.
 

ImTransAndTiny

Active Member
May 1, 2020
879
1,964
The other unlocker is also changing persistent file,
and it doesn't fuck up gallery, gallery is just broken to begin with.
The gallery can't handle empty variants for scenes with variants,
which other unlocker wasn't adding.
Right. There are nine scenes that have variants, and if you use an unlocker that unlocks the scenes but not the variants, then it will crash the game when you try to view that scene in the Cookie Jar. Allowing an empty variant list to crash the game was poor coding on their part, but the gallery isn't broken. It's not an issue if you use the cheat menu. The built-in unlock function iterates through all scenes AND all variants, so just use that.
 

ImTransAndTiny

Active Member
May 1, 2020
879
1,964
And, yes, it's not rocket science coding this game, but there is also the story, the humor, the posing and stuff.
I meant one coder. Certainly the game still needs someone to write the dialog and do the posing. I have no problem with there being a team of people working on the game, but I had to push back against the idea that it costs anything like $75k a month to develop a Ren'Py game.

And yes, I'm glad that the game doesn't change so dramatically on a regular basis that it makes modding impossible!
 
  • Like
Reactions: sssssssssssssss

j4yj4m

Forum Fanatic
Jun 19, 2017
4,155
6,097
As said before, everybody in the team except DC is working part time and DC only ever asked for $25.000 in the first place. So the game is certainly earning quite a bit more than it's technically supposed to.
 

Omnikuken

Conversation Conqueror
Feb 22, 2018
7,562
7,324
As said before, everybody in the team except DC is working part time and DC only ever asked for $25.000 in the first place. So the game is certainly earning quite a bit more than it's technically supposed to.
None of that matters when it's only donations
 

j4yj4m

Forum Fanatic
Jun 19, 2017
4,155
6,097
None of that matters when it's only donations
That's true. I only wanted to support the point that DC certainly doesn't need 75k to develop the game. That doesn't say anything about whether he deserves the money anyway or not.
 

gam2000

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2021
1,118
964
That's true. I only wanted to support the point that DC certainly doesn't need 75k to develop the game. That doesn't say anything about whether he deserves the money anyway or not.
That's also true. People donate so that they feel like they are supporting the work and probably like to be in the "know" on discord. It's really people's own business what they do with their money. Deserving has little to do with it. :)
 

Count Morado

Conversation Conqueror
Respected User
Jan 21, 2022
7,337
13,753
Slowest things in the universe:
1. Heat death of the universe
2. Black hole evaporation
3. Summertime Saga development
The last update was less than three weeks ago. Don't you think you should wait until at least month 4 for this meme?

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 
Last edited:

Omnikuken

Conversation Conqueror
Feb 22, 2018
7,562
7,324
The last update was less than three weeks ago. Don't you think you should wait until at least month 4 for this meme?

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Aside the ~2-3 days of moaning, it's 1 of the only milkers to come out in a while, let him have his take at being ridiculed
 
4.00 star(s) 363 Votes