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The coder (coders?) must be working short hours. In 18 months they should have been able to re-write the game code twice.
I sort of agree with this statement as a player, but as a game developer - I'm a bit on the fence.
I've had to re-write poorly written game engines. It's a lot harder to untangle a knot than build it correctly the first time.

Chances are, the programmers may have had to start working on a new game engine altogether rather than try to fix or re-use the old one. That could take months when the game has been in development for almost 10+ years at this point. When you look at it from that perspective, 18 months is actually a pretty short amount of time to build a solid foundation for a project.

From what I understand they are also redoing some art related stuff too.
 
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Omnikuken

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The coder (coders?) must be working short hours. In 18 months they should have been able to re-write the game code twice.
I sort of agree with this statement as a player, but as a game developer - I'm a bit on the fence.
I've had to re-write poorly written game engines. It's a lot harder to untangle a knot than build it correctly the first time.

Chances are, the programmers may have had to start working on a new game engine altogether rather than try to fix or re-use the old one. That could take months when the game has been in development for almost 10+ years at this point. When you look at it from that perspective, 18 months is actually a pretty short amount of time to build a solid foundation for a project.

From what I understand they are also redoing some art related stuff too.
Programmer (1 dude) works part-time (like most of the dev team, aside DC). He has to re-write the entire code (cause reasons) while waiting for the posers (3 dudes as of last info) do every scene (not just the lewds) with the new wider backgrounds, using the ~400+ image bits to "composite" all the girls back into not-mutants versions of themselves (no face and 4 arms, etc). All of that part-time, as said above

Bolded italics underlined : the art has been done for most of the year (check the tracker). And it's not "some" art, it's every background being ~1/3 wider, a bunch of new places (trucker bar/forest lodge/bowling alley/etc) with 2-3 variants for time of day + interiors/exteriors. Though all that isn't a bottleneck to the coder and/or posers
 

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Programmer (1 dude) works part-time (like most of the dev team, aside DC). He has to re-write the entire code (cause reasons) while waiting for the posers (3 dudes as of last info) do every scene (not just the lewds) with the new wider backgrounds, using the ~400+ image bits to "composite" all the girls back into not-mutants versions of themselves (no face and 4 arms, etc). All of that part-time, as said above

Bolded italics underlined : the art has been done for most of the year (check the tracker). And it's not "some" art, it's every background being ~1/3 wider, a bunch of new places (trucker bar/forest lodge/bowling alley/etc) with 2-3 variants for time of day + interiors/exteriors. Though all that isn't a bottleneck to the coder and/or posers
Yikes, that's an absolute shit ton of work. I'm not surprised at all then.
 

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And you make more than enough money to pay for a few of the games on this site. But you don't because that's your choice. And he doesn't because that's his.
So what? It's obviously his choice. And I'm pointing out that it's a stupid choice. What does your comment have to do with anything? If we are going to be posting non-sequiturs then did you that it's also your choice whether or not to write a comment?
 

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DC has made more than enough money to hire at least one more part-time programmer.
There are none to hire. There might only be full time to hire. He might have already done that, actually, he probably did and it's why the tech update is here. He might have hired many until he found one that's trustworthy, committed, knows his stuff and doesn't mind waiting for others to finish their workload thus getting paid for part time work.
The amount of trouble porn devs have when hiring is several times higher than other jobs.
 

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Imagine getting the thread nuked cause you don't know the basic premise of the tech build, even after almost 2 years. Pure win
 

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I say base on what I saw & heard on DC's stream,so if you have problem with that, go check it out or check with DC.
according to DC's stream history on Picarto (Date-2022-10-14) time 01:37:39
what he said : what we may do on Monday is maybe do wide screen extention of animation frames ( it means he hasn't finished that parts yet)

stop question people with this toxic attitude,when people are saying something base on the fact.
Man you two legit degenerated.
As far as I'm aware they initially didn't plan to switch "old" animations, which still will have to be replaced later on, to widescreen in the first place. Which means every animation that was done pre 0.16. would have stayed 4:3 - it seems like DC may now reconsiders that approach (for some of them?). But of course we'll only know once he starts working on stream or once the update is actually out.
 

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not to beat a dead horse (as I assume this has been discussed enough), but every time I see the mention of 4:3 ratio I scratch my head. What game, after like 2005, has been in the old aspect ratio?

Of all the head-scratching shit I see around this game, that's the one that stumps me the most. Was DC really trying to capture that 90s adventure game feel or something?
 

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not to beat a dead horse (as I assume this has been discussed enough), but every time I see the mention of 4:3 ratio I scratch my head. What game, after like 2005, has been in the old aspect ratio?

Of all the head-scratching shit I see around this game, that's the one that stumps me the most. Was DC really trying to capture that 90s adventure game feel or something?
Nah. Back when he started SS wasn't really meant to become a game. It was supposed to be his way to teach himself working with renpy, to start an actual game later on. As such he just created a few doodles, people liked it and he continued until he basically reached a point, where it would have been hard to justify changing everything to 16:9 back in the days. Though it would of course have saved a lot of time going forward.

It may just be me, but I wouldn't even be surprised if he actually chose 4:3 simply because it means it took him less time to draw each background, etc.

By now the game is simply popular enough to sustain these updates without everybody losing interest.
 

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Why does this keep getting updating with non incest stuff and characters no one cares about?
Read the past 67k comments to find out. I recommend starting at the most recent and working your way back.
Short answer: Summertime Saga is in the middle of an extended technical update to convert display ratio, create a more uniform code, etc. During this time - small animation/scene only updates are released so that the fans have something to look at while waiting. As for the content before and after this tech update - it's mostly been content which fans voted for. Since mid/late 2018, more fans voted to see content with Eve, R(h)onda, Annie, Judith, etc than for Debbie, Jenny, and Diane.
 

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The final chapter is too violent. I though it was a funny game.
How do you expect dealing with the Russian mafia who killed your notdad should end then ? Besides, MC only fired the rocket launcher backwards to allow notJohn Wick and co to help, and then Nadya nuked her notdad herself. Tony/Harold getting shot is also in there for reasons
 
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Good evening gentlemen, I would like to know if the incest patch still works in this version, my thanks in advance
 

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Good evening gentlemen, I would like to know if the incest patch still works in this version, my thanks in advance
Good evening. Searching the thread:
Third result (second, if you had searched before posting): #67,421 at the top of the previous page if you had skimmed the last two pages. See #3 of the FAQ. I also recommend #1.
 
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