You're not allowed to tell someone they are off their rocker in the same paragraph you suggest the dev is paying for petabytes of bandwidth (annually).
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I will admit I went overboard with Exabytes (because I was going off the top of my head for counts) however, in terms of petabytes:
Game is available from the developer's website for free download for players:
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The Win/Linux build is 1.1 GB (1.1x10^9)
The game has been played by over 100 million players over the years, downloaded from a variety of sources. If even just 1/10th of the downloads come from the official download location, that's at least 10 million downloads. The website has been up for 6 years. 10 million downloads / 6 years is 1.7 million (1.7x10^6) downloads per year on the average.
1.7x10^6 x 1.1x10^9 = 1.9x10^15
So, yes, it's not unthinkable to consider that DC is currently paying for hosting of uncapped download speeds for almost 2 petabytes per annum.
Can you quote the source on any of your numbers? What makes you think that the game has been played by over 100 million people?
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This thread isn't for gameplay questions. You want to follow the link on OP to the walkthrough/playthrough thread.
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Then why are YOU keep replying to everyone ? You can too "ignore both the comments and replies if it bothers you".
You are dedicated with this replies, Like it's your fulltime job !
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I am not the one making your complaint... you are. I don't want to ignore many of the posts. There is a lot of misinformation, misunderstandings, and mistakes made in posts made by others and so I respond to them. It's as much of a form of entertainment as the game.
PS: I expect a mod/staff person to eventually delete many of the posts in the past page as being off topic.
I see that you have written a lot on other topics. My question is, is it worth supporting the developer on patreon now? I see almost only technical uploads, supplemented with a few scenes. I just started the game.
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I haven't exchanged any money with any of the developers I have found on here. You do you and at the time you want to, for how long, and how much... or nothing at all. That's your choice. It's a game the developer makes available for free for everyone to download on their website. Supporters make that possible. If you support the developer's vision/work then feel free to leave a little something for them to show your appreciation, just like dropping a tip every so often into a busker's hat or guitar case who plays the same five songs on the street corner that you walk by on your way to work. But you aren't obliged to do so, nor are you expected to do so... by anyone, including the developer.
so, its coming up to 8 months since the last update, right? did something happened? wasnt it supposed to be 3 updates per year? or did they change to 1 per year now?
havent really played the game since the first "pre tech" release so im out of the loop. how is it going?
havent really played the game since the first "pre tech" release so im out of the loop. how is it going?
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Nope, it wasn't supposed to be 3 updates per year. It has always been about releasing an update when they think it's ready.
After the 6th pre-tech update, they decided to nix them and focus strictly on the tech update.
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Finally, see #10 here for the link to 29 May's report: #71,087
That's a lot more downloads than I thought, but it's since the inception and the dev only pays for the "uncapped" download for Patreons - so ~30k people. He's not paying for petabytes annually.
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Shouldn't take long to voice those few lines of text, right?
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His download links on his website is
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to download for free -- not just his subscribers. So, yes, it is entirely conceivable that he is paying for over a million downloads per year from his website, equaling over a petabyte of bandwidth -- especially when he has had updates in the past. Particularly when the tech update is ever finally released - his mega account, alone, will be sucking up bandwidth like a thirsty sailor in a bar on shore leave.
God, and can you imagine the whineage then... "But that's not how I think Debbie sounds when she moans!!!" and "Why can't we get Roxxy's V/O in this update, why did they do Eve first??"Shouldn't take long to voice those few lines of text, right?
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Not quite, the Patreons get their own private servers (Where the cost would be) - everything else is on Mega / etc.
But, imagining he pays for the full transfer on Mega (By which I mean he uses his transfer quota for the files, which I don't think is the case) for 1 PB a year, it's still only €215 / month...
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Look, I can tell you just want to be a contrarian (Petabytes? Absurd! --- The game is that popular? Poppycock! --- Provides bandwidth for everyone to download? Balderdash! --- Oh well, it only costs €215 / month, big deal). So, here, I'll agree with you - Yes, I know the average cost for 1 petabyte of bandwidth annually from Mega is about 215 euros per month. Some months it could be as low as 40-60 euros on their flex plan, but during peak times (such as during update releases) it can go over 1,000 euros. But, yes, on an average.
Further, however -- that's just one of the business costs that people forget about of which I mentioned a few in my initial reply. There's business taxes, attorney fees, fees for accounting, promotions when needed, contractor fees to pay for the staff, etc. Doing business costs money. All of those add up. Is DC making good money? Sure. I never said he wasn't, in fact I've agreed every time that he's making good money -- but he's not pocketing every dollar that his subscribers send on Patreon, like many people seem to think when they are whining about how much he is getting and that things could go faster if he just threw more money at it.
You was claiming high costs, even stating exabytes, and me calling that out isn't being contrarian.
The idea that the game receives over 1 million downloads a year is probably not accurate, but even if it was - the costs of hosting it on someone elses infrastructure is a fraction of what he receives per month, a very small fraction at that... and this is the worse case scenario.
Anyway, I guess my point is you made what seem to be overblown statements on figures you don't really know as a kind of "Gotcha, maybe he isn't making as much as you think!" - I can't speak for how much he pays the other people on the team (And neither can anyone here, probably) - but lets not act like he's hemorrhaging money with 27k patreons right now over a 1.1 GB download (Of which, most isn't downloaded from his server or even from his own pocket).
Because it is his fulltime job probably,its either that or this guy is a complete idiot.
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I never claimed high costs - I have always claimed costs, period. Costs that people don't consider when they start their whinging on and on about how much DC's Patreon account brings in. You called me out on petabytes, not my other claim of possible exabytes. The exabytes claim which I already admitted I made a mistake about because of doing the math in my head and misplacing zeros, at the same time standing my ground on petabytes. I showed my sources from how I got my estimates - you didn't refute them then once I showed you, but do so now. You didn't offer any sources or any numbers to refute. You keep moving the goal posts, I get it. I get it.
I stand by my estimates based upon the data I have found. You simply saying "I don't believe it" without offering any sources in opposition doesn't further the conversation nor does it seek to find a common ground between the sides - we're at an impasse and so I won't waste any more of my time. Enjoy your day.
Projection is a terrible reflection of ones self-evaluation.