Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]
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Yeah, he was asked in a stream and he said it wasn't going to happen because "It wasn't in Eve's personality", and I mean he's probably right but like you mentioned this game is full of forced situations and besides it's strongly suggested that the scene was going to happen so it gets a little annoying.
- Jun 19, 2017
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Most of this has been well known. Some people here really seem to forget that DC started this whole game to teach himself coding and that all of the coding that was done in the first year(s), was done by someone who happened to be part of DC's early chats. Comparing that to any kind of professional work ist really besides the point.
Next to that people tend to forget, that DC struggled with the thought of a tech update before this one happened and that Patreons did vote against it, the first time he polled it. Which, by the way, was celebrated by most of the people who already screamed "he's milking" back then...
I think it's important to differentiate between working in larger teams/companies and working in small teams. You don't need a manager in a semi well orgranized team of 3 people who are on good terms. You need someone who takes decisions and who holds people accountable and that's really it. That's clearly DC's job.
If DC didn't manage to make Dogeek work properly (I've seen them "argue" a few times in chat/stream), you think some random hired manager would have managed that? Nah. Again, you can't compare indie development to some kind of professional work environment - it'll never be the same.
What DC should have done, is getting a consultant/dev/coder who knows how to run large(ish) coding projects and who knows how to work with python/renpy, so there'd be workable roadmap for the tech update and he should have hired someone to prepare a lof of the stuff that's causing problems now, while they were still working on the main story. But that's something very different from having a manager in general.
The tech update isn't struggling because someone isn't keeping his deadlines or doesn't do what he's supposed to do, but because they fundementally, massively missjudged the work that had to be done before they started and had to figure all of that out while they had were already working.
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I don't think DC personally cares thaaaaat much about all of that anyway. And we shouldn't either, to be honest. As long as he's creating assets for the game, the content will ultimately be released. If the tech update had been on time, there's a good chance we had never gotten some of these pre-tech scenes, for example.
After all, the only thing that's hurt by this delay is his financial bottom line and that's really only his personal problem.
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- Jun 19, 2017
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There have been quite a few situations, in which Sploosh snuck in some pieces of dialog, which weren't really on DC's mind. Missy's sister is probably the best example, as DC never intetend her to have one, but by now people simply want to see her.
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Sure, if it helps you to sleep (or nut) at night. I'm too tired to argue with you people.
You have literally described a project manager.
- Jun 19, 2017
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The point I made was it was useless to hire somebody for that job. It's DC's job anyway, as he's the owner of the game and the company. So if DC didn't want to fire Dogeek because he thought the results were good enough, a manager couldn't have done that either. If DC wants to add item x to the game, a manager won't keep him from doing that.
Unless you seriously want to suggest that DC should hand over the decision making to somebody else? If no, then there's close to no space for someone to manage something meaningful. If yes... well... you know it won't happen.
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- Jul 28, 2017
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DC and stupid decisions.
name a more iconic duo
- Feb 4, 2017
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Sploosh adding shit without running it by DC.
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- Oct 15, 2018
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The Biggest Question on F95: who is going to stop milking his supporters, first Icstor or DC? Place your bets
- Sep 22, 2017
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DC 100%. As much as I think he is really bad at managing things, he is actually working on his game.
- Aug 4, 2023
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I can make this into an iconic trio: DC, stupid decisions and being sick.
- Oct 15, 2018
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Well we should get an MC update in 2 weeks if not delayed again. With Summertime Saga on the other hand, we won't get any update in foreseeable future
- Sep 22, 2017
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Wait do you really believe ICSTOR will release an update for milfy city? I wish I could be as optimistic as you. If he releases the update which should be the last one from what I understand, I will definitely play it. But I have no confidence in anything icstor or anyone on his team say.
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