BruceMcGivern

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In the foreseeable future it's not possible for AI to replicate a 2D drawing style across many images in a consistent & aesthetically pleasing manner. AI can't do it because a given 2D style is not "mathematically" consistent across images. There are slight variations with each new drawing that basically define the style. For example you can draw 10 images of essentially the same thing (e.g. a given character getting up from bed as seen from the back) and yet you can vary theoretically-unchanging details (e.g. body part proportions) and perspective WILDLY across these images without a human interpretation finding an aesthetical fault. In addition, when AI generates 2D images, the stochastic nature of the process cannot ensure sufficient consistency across multiple images so they won't look like they were drawn by the same hand. You'll basically end up with 1000 different shots of the same character in different positions but they look like an AI hallucination, not a comics strip drawn by a human.

A possible solution I would've loved exploring if I had another lifetime to spare is to use AI to generate reverse-scannable 3D models (kinda like those in pic below). You basically put in the work to generate via AI just a handful of high quality reasonably consistent images for every model. Then you put these images through a reverse-scanner that infers 3D models from 2D pictures. Then you fine-adjust the 3D models to get them in a final form and finally you start using them via classic 3D modelling/animation/rendering to create a game that looks perfectly consistent across shots. You even have the choice of going with a full 3D look (which would be very exciting in itself) or use techniques that make 3D renders look more like 2D images. You lose plenty of the 2D hand drawn feel but the gains are monumental.

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The day AI makes an actual appealable Indie NSFW game with decent voice acting, animations and plot that makes at least a number of people; I fapped to that and it's actually passable content.

It's the day i be shaving my head and pay those 23$ to a bet i did with a bro when AI wasn't a big of a deal back in the day lol

I hope in the years left the bet still active that really doesn't happen xD and he end up paying the double of the wage. following by purchasing me any digital or psychical game of choice under 40$.

Wondering how the hell DC at this point is not releasing content since May wtf?!

Anyways :p it's funny this game haven't got an update for a while ago
 

yomama4200

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11 months without an update... has this been abandoned?
if u pay attention to the patron its still being updated its just not fully developed if I'm not mistaken i believe there is something coming out on it at christmas possibly but i bought it so I would try and wait they do not want to keep tasing us with lil shit he wanna give us a big update and give us what we have been waiting for something in those words
 

Count Morado

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if I'm not mistaken i believe there is something coming out on it at christmas
You are mistaken. The developer has not said anything will be out at anytime. The tech update will be released when they are ready to release it. It could be two months, it could be two years, it could be two decades.
i bought it
You bought it? It's free for everyone to play directly from the developer's website. There's nothing to buy. If you mean you are now a subscriber on Patreon - your subscription doesn't buy the game. Subscribers get wallpapers, access to servers, subscriber discord channel access and other benefits. The game is not one of the benefits because it is free for everyone.
they do not want to keep tasing us with lil shit he wanna give us a big update and give us what we have been waiting for something in those words
You are mistaken again.
 
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but I agree in 1-2 years some AI games could even be better than SS, even animate some scenes and at that point DC should reconsider his plans for the future.
And actually AI porn is getting quickly better and just with few clicks you can get something similar without efforts.
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PULALAU1

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the main story is interesting , but after this the mini storys are meh we need more content with the side characters
 

HerreroA

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How other games gets the tag abandoned when they still are in progress
and this not getting the tag abandoned after 1 year?
 

Count Morado

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How other games gets the tag abandoned when they still are in progress and this not getting the tag abandoned after 1 year?
See the third bullet here. The first bullet is not in play because DC hasn't stated it. The second bullet is not in play because DC posts regularly on Patreon, plus normally streams on Picarto several days a week. The fourth bullet is not applicable.
 

Count Morado

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Password What is it? Why not?
If you haven't progressed the storyline to that point yet, even the correct password won't work.
You can constantly provide rebuttals to every "when le update" or "game ded" comment, you can even remember and dig up what you exactly told me 4 months ago but asking for links is an insult?! I mean the whole reason I even made such a request is because you're a terminally online fella and are active on this thread, so it's not unusual to assume you might provide help instead of snarky comments. Not all of us have time to comb through threads with 3.5k+ comments.
I am not terminally online, I work over 40 hours per week and am taking 15 semester credits for grad school while raising a family. I'm just know how to manage my time and resources. You insulting me because of your laziness not to simply search one or two words to get EXACTLY what you are asking for doesn't hurt my feelings (it would have been quicker for you to use the search box than to type the first post to me, let alone that one and this proclamation that you are a victim).

I did provide help to you 4 months ago - I told you how you could find everything yourself without having to ask the same question already asked and answered or to find copied posts from patreon on here. Again, you would have had what you wanted within a couple of minutes than waiting for the expectation of me to be your personal errand boy.

If you THINK you know me and my motivation - then you would have READ my signature and take it to heart rather than for you to think I'm here to service your wishes, desires and whims. I'm not here to spoon feed pablum.
Not all of us have time to comb through threads with 3.5k+ comments.
Oh, so it's okay to waste my fucking time to serve you, though? You couldn't take 5 minutes or less to do it yourself, so you asked me to do it? You don't see what the fuck is wrong with that? (you don't need to answer, I already know the response and that is the gall of it all).
 
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You guys broke Count Morado,he is mean now :(
This is a bad omen for Summertime saga.
Nope. That's just what happens when you get withdrawal symptoms after not getting an update from your favourite game for years. Also I'm pretty sure DC doesn't let Count Morado into his panties anymore. That's why he's been getting a little frustrated. But good for him I guess that he manages his time well. I'm pretty sure he finds time to jerk off to other games and not let it be a problem
 

Count Morado

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You guys broke Count Morado,he is mean now :(
This is a bad omen for Summertime saga.
Naw. But it never ceases to amaze me that people take more time to continue to be lazy than to simply do the easy work to get what they want quicker.
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It isn't that hard to go to the developer's website:

note that on 20 September 2023 that DC posted new art and then use the F95 search box for "Wallpaper" or "wallpaper art" or "wallpaper art from Rhonda" and see in the first 5-10 results that Hero1 posted on the same day the art from that Patreon post. 2 minutes of time, tops.
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Nope. That's just what happens when you get withdrawal symptoms after not getting an update from your favourite game for years.
Goes to show you :p - Summertime Saga isn't my favorite game. Hell, I haven't even played it since before the Halloween update from 3 years ago. The only reason I've downloaded since that time is to answer questions that hadn't been answered previously or to give examples on how the art works, etc.

It has nothing to do with withdrawal symptoms. It has everything to do with others' laziness, sense of entitlement, spreading of misinformation (intentional or not).
 
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Naw. But it never ceases to amaze me that people take more time to continue to be lazy than to simply do the easy work to get what they want quicker.
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It isn't that hard to go to the developer's website:

note that on 20 September 2023 that DC posted new art and then use the F95 search box for "Wallpaper" or "wallpaper art" or "wallpaper art from Rhonda" and see in the first 5-10 results that Hero1 posted on the same day the art from that Patreon post. 2 minutes of time, tops.
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Goes to show you :p - Summertime Saga isn't my favorite game. Hell, I haven't even played it since before the Halloween update from 3 years ago. The only reason I've downloaded since that time is to answer questions that hadn't been answered previously or to give examples on how the art works, etc.

It has nothing to do with withdrawal symptoms. It has everything to do with others' laziness, sense of entitlement, spreading of misinformation (intentional or not).
Sure buddy
 

totor83

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In the foreseeable future it's not possible for AI to replicate a 2D drawing style across many images in a consistent & aesthetically pleasing manner. AI can't do it because a given 2D style is not "mathematically" consistent across images. There are slight variations with each new drawing that basically define the style. For example you can draw 10 images of essentially the same thing (e.g. a given character getting up from bed as seen from the back) and yet you can vary theoretically-unchanging details (e.g. body part proportions) and perspective WILDLY across these images without a human interpretation finding an aesthetical fault. In addition, when AI generates 2D images, the stochastic nature of the process cannot ensure sufficient consistency across multiple images so they won't look like they were drawn by the same hand. You'll basically end up with 1000 different shots of the same character in different positions but they look like an AI hallucination, not a comics strip drawn by a human.

A possible solution I would've loved exploring if I had another lifetime to spare is to use AI to generate reverse-scannable 3D models (kinda like those in pic below). You basically put in the work to generate via AI just a handful of high quality reasonably consistent images for every model. Then you put these images through a reverse-scanner that infers 3D models from 2D pictures. Then you fine-adjust the 3D models to get them in a final form and finally you start using them via classic 3D modelling/animation/rendering to create a game that looks perfectly consistent across shots. You even have the choice of going with a full 3D look (which would be very exciting in itself) or use techniques that make 3D renders look more like 2D images. You lose plenty of the 2D hand drawn feel but the gains are monumental.

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Yes , but 2d style drawing is better ...
 
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