Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

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GopnikDude

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Here's the thing... As an indie dev myself, i get it. DC really has no point (and as others pointed out, actually has no obligations) to release the tech update faster, even tho it's been almost 3 years going at it.

The money just keeps pouring in, their future is secured, they probably have plenty of other new projects idea they are working on. So people can bitch and moan all about it morning to evening if they want, doesn't change the fact that Summertime Saga is certainly a commercial (and arguably, marketing) success already and thus, lack any good motivation other than their reputation to release timely and sizable updates.

They can take their sweet ass time in planning, prototyping and exploring concepts for the future of Summertime Saga or whatever else they want to go to next. And let me tell you, that this kind of opportunity is fantastically rare in the world of video games in general, and he knows it.

Would i like for them to get along and finally release this damn update? Fuck yeah, i want to play this game one more time with the tech update so i can finally put an end to this whole saga (eh).

But also... DAMN, DUDE FOUND INFINITE MONEY GLITCH AND IS CASHING IT IN YEEEEEEWHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

I'm half-joking but to be blunt; yes he is exploiting the shit out of it and i can't even blame him.
 
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Count Morado said:
True - though, to be clear without dismissing your comment, this is DC's full-time job and has been so for years. Currently, he has on contract a writer, a coder, several posers, plus support roles.
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And you have any source which says how long they work for him in a week? Or Month? Or in which condition there work agreement is?

I have also a gardener and a cleaning lady, sounds like i pay a lot of money hey? no they come very rarly for 3-4 hours thats it.
The same counts for this "jobs" Yes he has a lot of ppl working on this project with him, fine, but they dont work full hours. They get i need this week that you do this task.. ok person_01 does the tasks it takes for example 5 hours in the week he gets the agreed money for it, thats it.
DC works 1-1,5 hours a day (and very often he is "ill") i dont belive if his "full time" working hours are 5-7,5 hours a week. He would pay ppl for more hours.
 
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Mandragoron said:
And you have any source which says how long they work for him in a week? Or Month? Or in which condition there work agreement is?

I have also a gardener and a cleaning lady, sounds like i pay a lot of money hey? no they come very rarly for 3-4 hours thats it.
The same counts for this "jobs" Yes he has a lot of ppl working on this project with him, fine, but they dont work full hours. They get i need this week that you do this task.. ok person_01 does the tasks it takes for example 5 hours in the week he gets the agreed money for it, thats it.
DC works 1-1,5 hours a day (and very often he is "ill") i dont belive if his "full time" working hours are 5-7,5 hours a week. He would pay ppl for more hours.
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Just as anecdote; my team is made of about 8 full time devs, which consist of a dedicated audio director, Lead dev programmer, Art director, Lead QA/Gameplay designer (Me), Story/Lead director and 3 artists (2D/3D/Texturing). We hire a bunch of outside contractors in a as-needed/part time basis such as animators, voice actors and programmers (we work with UE5) which counts up to maybe about 20 people total having contributed.

We have only about 1/3 to 1/4 the raw monthly income of SS, but to be fair, i genuinely believe most of us are some extremely talented people that could easily fetch twice the salary we're currently offering. But we have other circumstances to compensate for that such as sale percentage cuts and such. That and we've been working together for like 5 years now so we're all on pretty good terms.

SS is most definitely Art heavy first and foremost, with DC probably being the sole artist doing the art and animation stuff. Then programming, story/dialogue writing, QA (Maybe?) and perhaps some studio assistant doing a little bit of everything. Ah and PR guy. These are the main roles that most likely are full time, since DC is most certainly a lead dev doing a little of everything, which is the exact same for our own lead dev. There is no way DC is slacking, i'm actually fairly sure of that.

Everything else, i doubt the work load is sufficient to be full time. That being said, small teams (like mine) tend to wear multiples hats at once, so it is entirely possible the actual work is much more diverse than what their titles implies.

TL;DR: They have enough budget to hire a full team of 20 people full time if they wanted. For which they don't need to and have zero incentive to. The only main motivation i could see for completing updates faster is that good release schedules is good for seeking out partnerships and publishers. Which again, they don't need.

They are a small team working on a big ass building. But who cares about finishing it faster, all that'll do is dry up their source of revenue.

Again, people can bitch and moan all they want. But they are in a absolute dream state for their project. Good for them.

To be clear: All of this is nothing more than conjecture, provided for reference. Please do not take any of this as fact for SS or the devs.
 
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Mookys

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I haven't been back here for months.
When the update comes out, I think I'll have to start this game all over again. I've forgotten half the story. :rolleyes:
 
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Mookys said:
I haven't been back here for months.
When the update comes out, I think I'll have to start this game all over again. I've forgotten half the story. :rolleyes:
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Old saves arent going to work so we all have to start all over again when the tech update drops.
 
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ElfDrow said:
some games don't run if the path (name of sub directories) is too long. the max number was 256 I think.
if it exceeds this number of characters some files might not decompress.
an easy first fix to try, is to copy the game to a directory near the root c: (ie: c:\games\SummertimeSaga)

if that doesn't help. a little more info might help.
which download did you used?
which OS you have?
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never mind, thank you though, I was managed to make it run like a dream just by redownloaded it. God bless you brother!!!
 
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Mookys said:
I haven't been back here for months.
When the update comes out, I think I'll have to start this game all over again. I've forgotten half the story. :rolleyes:
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lam09 said:
goddamn it what if the update drops tomorrow? I'm just halfway through the game and I don't want to redo the whole thing anytime soon.
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Ultimately there'll likely be some kind of "jump" to newest content option in future updates, as there has been in the past. The tech update itself though will literally change/improve almost every background and a lot of other assets and it may introduce quite a few minor changes, which you'd almost certainly miss if you don't replay the game.

As such it's probably the one time people should indeed replay the game (or at least parts of it) if they like it.
 
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j4yj4m said:
Ultimately there'll probably be some kind of "jump" to newest content option in future updates, as there has been in the past. The tech update itself though will literally change/improve almost every background and a lot of other assets and it may introduce quite a few minor changes, which you'd probably miss if you don't replay the game.

As such it's probably the one time people should indeed replay the game (or at least parts of it) if they like it.
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Thank you for these explanations.
 
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It's likely that we're going to ReDo the Whole story again and the Last Save won't be compatible with the New Version.
 
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lam09 said:
goddamn it what if the update drops tomorrow? I'm just halfway through the game and I don't want to redo the whole thing anytime soon.
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the only release date i read of , probably wishful hoping , was sometime in march , no year was mentioned , so ..... 2024 - 2025 - 2026 , DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH , this is the cash cowen - milkening dev\team i have ever come across , the next update with all its hype will probably make you redo the game and all those dang @$#@#$ mini-games that might damage your [space] key like it did mine because you have to tap your [space] key like a million times a second for several seconds inorder to win those dang things , if the cheat option is still available , if and when the update comes out , USE THE CHEATS to save your keyboard and your finger
 
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xmajicx said:
the only release date i read of , probably wishful hoping , was sometime in march , no year was mentioned , so ..... 2024 - 2025 - 2026 , DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH , this is the cash cowen - milkening dev\team i have ever come across , the next update with all its hype will probably make you redo the game and all those dang @$#@#$ mini-games that might damage your [space] key like it did mine because you have to tap your [space] key like a million times a second for several seconds inorder to win those dang things , if the cheat option is still available , if and when the update comes out , USE THE CHEATS to save your keyboard and your finger
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Sure, thank you kind stranger for the heads up
 
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