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I don't know what it is that keeps me coming back to this thread (amusement maybe? the drama?)

either way, at this point I'm honestly curious as to why DC hasn't hired more people to work on the code (the biggest issue from what I can see), and at least try to get this tech update over and done with, as from what I've seen, DC is making art for future updates, which is pushing the coding even further behind.

and yes, I am aware that different coders = different styles/way of doing things, which can impact performance, but frankly, if this keeps up, DC may as well declare the game "as done as it gets" and start working on Wintertime Saga with new staff...
Wait Wintertime Saga? Is that real or is it a joke?
 
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I don't know what it is that keeps me coming back to this thread (amusement maybe? the drama?)

either way, at this point I'm honestly curious as to why DC hasn't hired more people to work on the code (the biggest issue from what I can see), and at least try to get this tech update over and done with, as from what I've seen, DC is making art for future updates, which is pushing the coding even further behind.

and yes, I am aware that different coders = different styles/way of doing things, which can impact performance, but frankly, if this keeps up, DC may as well declare the game "as done as it gets" and start working on Wintertime Saga with new staff...
Dc could have hired someone to help with the coding (its still not late to do so), cause there is always someone that can do same type of coding has current coder, he state that its not needed cause things are going well and good speed and we seeing it other way, i mean tech update its far from being done, what im more curious is what makes people pay every month to get nothing back.
 
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Dc could have hired someone to help with the coding (its still not late to do so), cause there is always someone that can do same type of coding has current coder, he state that its not needed cause things are going well and good speed and we seeing it other way, i mean tech update its far from being done, what im more curious is what makes people pay every month to get nothing back.
And what I'm curious is what DC pays his coder. He's either a lazy one, or paid s*it and that's why he puts little or no effort on it, or the so-called tech-update won't happen in years because the previous coding can't be fixed at the actual state. What's clear it's that DC is investing no patreon resources in his own game and people should have already realized it long time ago. After all these years the game should have got at least some voice acting.
 
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And what I'm curious is what DC pays his coder. He's either a lazy one, or paid s*it and that's why he puts little or no effort on it, or the so-called tech-update won't happen in years because the previous coding can't be fixed at the actual state. What's clear it's that DC is investing no patreon resources in his own game and people should have already realized it long time ago. After all these years the game should have got at least some voice acting.
Ask Kuma Studio how good an idea voice acting was.
 

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You guys know he's checking this daily back and forth with everyone to see there is still enough interest to keep milking it. Fucking hell, some of you guys treat this thread like a high school kid that just found out about social media. Here every day bitching or defending. REALLY?! Do you really have nothing else going on? People stop hanging out here, biting their nails waiting, for someone to "comment on their comment". Maybe lack of interest...and dwindling "donations" would light a fire under his ass. Or maybe not.. Some people just suck at being good people even though they make a DECENT(lets get real people) game.
 

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Even If he is working on the update let's hope that he is not using AI.
Ai totally ruined "taffy tales"
Let's hope this one dosent face the same fate.
Or worse abundant
 
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And what I'm curious is what DC pays his coder. He's either a lazy one, or paid s*it and that's why he puts little or no effort on it, or the so-called tech-update won't happen in years because the previous coding can't be fixed at the actual state. What's clear it's that DC is investing no patreon resources in his own game and people should have already realized it long time ago. After all these years the game should have got at least some voice acting.
The issue its not the coder, he is not lazy, but he has alot of work compared to rest of the team (that is why people mentioned a need of a 2nd coder, which would help alot the progress), cause if we notice more and more tasks are added to coding and most likely some are from previous coding he done that has to back and remake or add, so the poor guy has to go back and forward with his work, if we need to blame someone its DC cause he does some poor choices.
 

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The issue its not the coder, he is not lazy, but he has alot of work compared to rest of the team (that is why people mentioned a need of a 2nd coder, which would help alot the progress), cause if we notice more and more tasks are added to coding and most likely some are from previous coding he done that has to back and remake or add, so the poor guy has to go back and forward with his work, if we need to blame someone its DC cause he does some poor choices.
No offense intended and I know people hate Unity. However, if I had the art & text I could have rewritten the entire game 4-5 times by now.
 

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No offense intended and I know people hate Unity. However, if I had the art & text I could have rewritten the entire game 4-5 times by now.
I think people hate Unity cause its a pain to learn, i rather use UN5 way easier to use, but i know for certain its possible to make SS in unity few times by the time they taking.
 
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I think people hate Unity cause its a pain to learn, i rather use UN5 way easier to use, but i know for certain its possible to make SS in unity few times by the time they taking.
Being a .NET developer for about 20 years now, it has been way easier for me to develop in it over any of the other engines. My struggles are all the other aspects of game dev. :cool:
 

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You guys know he's checking this daily back and forth with everyone to see there is still enough interest to keep milking it. Fucking hell, some of you guys treat this thread like a high school kid that just found out about social media. Here every day bitching or defending. REALLY?! Do you really have nothing else going on? People stop hanging out here, biting their nails waiting, for someone to "comment on their comment". Maybe lack of interest...and dwindling "donations" would light a fire under his ass. Or maybe not.. Some people just suck at being good people even though they make a DECENT(lets get real people) game.
You are not wrong. There's tons of basement dwellers here.
 
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It's strange to me to see how DC used to do almost all the work alone and updates came out very often, and now with the expanded staff, not only is development not going faster, it's rolling back, lmao

Reminds me of the AAA-industry, where development has gone up along with the price of games, but quality still can't get up to the games from 20 years ago.

Where the patreon money goes isn't very clear either. Literally a simulation of the activity when your boss walks past your desk and you frantically press the alt tab from solitaire to word document.
 

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It's strange to me to see how DC used to do almost all the work alone and updates came out very often, and now with the expanded staff, not only is development not going faster, it's rolling back, lmao

Reminds me of the AAA-industry, where development has gone up along with the price of games, but quality still can't get up to the games from 20 years ago.

Where the patreon money goes isn't very clear either. Literally a simulation of the activity when your boss walks past your desk and you frantically press the alt tab from solitaire to word document.
I'm reminded of the Mythical Man-Month.
 
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