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To be fair you can't expect the guy to sit on his arse and twiddle his thumbs waiting for the other task to be finished before he start doodling content for the next update.
I think the problem is not DC at this point. He draws every day. You can see new scenes done all the time. What i want to know is what are the people posing and coding doing? At some point DC was drawing content for the Rhonda update since he was done with the tech update. Seriously, what are the coder and the people posing the scenes doing?
 

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I think the problem is not DC at this point. He draws every day. You can see new scenes done all the time. What i want to know is what are the people posing and coding doing? At some point DC was drawing content for the Rhonda update since he was done with the tech update. Seriously, what are the coder and the people posing the scenes doing?
Being lazy /s
Anyway, I don't get why developers make their games update by update, as it just causes annoyance and trolls to awaken from their hibernation, instead of finishing the game, then releasing it update by update
 
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I think the problem is not DC at this point. He draws every day. You can see new scenes done all the time. What i want to know is what are the people posing and coding doing? At some point DC was drawing content for the Rhonda update since he was done with the tech update. Seriously, what are the coder and the people posing the scenes doing?
Asked and answered many times in this thread - latest was less than 24 hours ago: #76,243, 36 hours ago: #76,236, and 72 hours ago: #76,212. If this thread wasn't inundated with off-topic unfounded accusations (and the associated responses, yes - but those responses would not exist if the accusations ceased), people could find what they are looking for much quicker and easier.
 
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Being lazy /s
Anyway, I don't get why developers make their games update by update, as it just causes annoyance and trolls to awaken from their hibernation, instead of finishing the game, then releasing it update by update
That is absolutely the problem with the patreon system, because it offers the incentive for that. Why work on the game for years and only get pay off for it on release, when you can get paid while doing so?

You see 'real developers' do a variant of that shit with the early access system, too.
 

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I think the problem is not DC at this point. He draws every day.
DC is definitely a problem, first of all he mostly draws stuff that is really not needed for the game when he could have completly finished the art assets for the rhonda, annie, judith and a couple more character routes completly by now but it seems like he rather doodles wallpapers, new side characters, ultra detailed interiors for every side's characters home and shit like that

second it looks like he doesn't give a fuck what the rest of the team is doing, i honestly doubt he even knows what his coder is doing all day as long as the money rolls ins
 

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DC is definitely a problem, first of all he mostly draws stuff that is really not needed for the game when he could have completly finished the art assets for the rhonda, annie, judith and a couple more character routes completly by now but it seems like he rather doodles wallpapers
He's actually been working on assets for many characters that need it, including Rhonda, Annie, Mrs. Smith, the lifeguard, etc. Just because he releases wallpapers doesn't mean those are the only things that have been keeping him busy. He's had a period when it hadn't dawned on him yet that the tech-update was gonna take a prolonged time, so he was literally doodling on stream and saying "I have nothing to do". But thankfully that period was short and a while ago, and now he seems to be pretty productive.

ultra detailed interiors for every side's characters home and shit like that
Interiors have always been part of the game, and giving some characters' homes interiors in advance of their inevitable update makes perfect sense. The detail to them is fun and appealing. If you'd rather have a stale environment then you can find plenty of those kind of games on this site, but there's a reason SS is so successful and games that are churned out with no heart get abandoned at 0.1.

new side characters
This really bugged me too when he still did this, DC had a period where he would add new side characters instead of completing the unfinished ones, or add in the missing content that's still not in the game until this day. I haven't seen him work on new characters all that much but I do know he's added a couple. Hopefully they'll remain as purely functional characters until the game is near finished and they get some scenes or something.

second it looks like he doesn't give a fuck what the rest of the team is doing, i honestly doubt he even knows what his coder is doing all day as long as the money rolls ins
Yeah, I don't think he has any oversight of what's happening either. But we're all on the same page here, he's just not good at managing or making a game.
 
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He's actually been working on assets for many characters that need it, including Rhonda, Annie, Mrs. Smith, the lifeguard, etc. Just because he releases wallpapers doesn't mean those are the only things that have been keeping him busy. He's had a period when it hadn't dawned on him yet that the tech-update was gonna take a prolonged time, so he was literally doodling on stream and saying "I have nothing to do". But thankfully that period was short and a while ago, and now he seems to be pretty productive.
i remember when people where saying the assets for the rhonda story are completly finished 2 years ago or so and just a couple weeks ago he did more stuff for the lifeguard. i bet once the tech update is out he will still need a couple months working on art for the rhonda update when he should have more or less completly finished art assets for the next 5 character routes with how much time he has.

Interiors have always been part of the game, and giving some characters' homes interiors in advance of their inevitable update makes perfect sense. The detail to them is fun and appealing. If you'd rather have a stale environment then you can find plenty of those kind of games on this site, but there's a reason SS is so successful and games that are churned out with no heart get abandoned at 0.1.
yeah but there is a middle ground. he was literally working for weeks on the interior for the lighthouse. not every side character needs his/her own ultra detailed toilet that resembles their personality you know what i mean. especially if he could have finished the art assets for multiple main characters by now so that most of what's left once he gets to rhonda, annie and so on is posing and coding

This really bugged me too when he still did this, DC had a period where he would add new side characters instead of completing the unfinished ones, or add in the missing content that's still not in the game until this day. I haven't seen him work on new characters all that much but I do know he's added a couple. Hopefully they'll remain as purely functional characters until the game is near finished and they get some scenes or something.
yeah for example the cafeteria lady. was she really needed when we have so many side characters with zero content? what about the indian doctor from the hospital? i haven't played the game in years so i barely remember most characters but there were a bunch of them like this

Yeah, I don't think he has any oversight of what's happening either. But we're all on the same page here, he's just not good at managing or making a game.
the big problem is that he also doesn't want to get better or have oversight over the project. his coder could literally work an hour a week and he probably wouldn't care or notice
 

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the real question is why can't users move on? too many new A.I. art style games for your liking/distaste?
To me it’s like a yearly tradition at this point if I remember it. It’s not because I pop into this thread expecting the game to be finished or gain anything new from the endless cycles of discussions that have raised every single point possible. We can’t be surprised that people still pay for this, LEGO should’ve taught everyone that nerds have too much money on their hands. That’s how it is.

For me it’s a fun little blast from the past, and a reminder that if you make something that’s good enough for the time in which it was made, you have a shot of living off of that achievement for a long ass time. No matter the media/format.

Edit: Holy balls I did remember busting a nut to this when I was young but I had forgotten that this was posted here in 16, 8 fucking years ago! No wonder the creative drive got a little stale kek.
 

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i remember when people where saying the assets for the rhonda story are completly finished 2 years ago or so and just a couple weeks ago he did more stuff for the lifeguard.
Well, who ever said that, was really wrong back then. DC never claimed it and it obviously wasn't the case - at least I recall him mentioning a long time ago, that he hoped to have about half of Rhonda's art completed at the end of the tech update. But given that it's been a year or so, it may have changed.
yeah but there is a middle ground. he was literally working for weeks on the interior for the lighthouse. not every side character needs his/her own ultra detailed toilet that resembles their personality you know what i mean. especially if he could have finished the art assets for multiple main characters by now so that most of what's left once he gets to rhonda, annie and so on is posing and coding
Honestly, that's not on us to decide - at least not as long as he's sticking to the original concept. If he wants to add more detailed art/backgrounds, that's really on him and it's on his patrons to vote with their feet.
Especially if you consider, that most of these backgrounds are actually really nice and that the single downside is, that creating them takes time. But that's only a problem for those who are waiting now - people who are going to play the game for the first time in the future, will have a blast seeing them. At least as I see it now, the tech update will increase the overall art quality significantly.

yeah for example the cafeteria lady. was she really needed when we have so many side characters with zero content? what about the indian doctor from the hospital? i haven't played the game in years so i barely remember most characters but there were a bunch of them like this
I mean, the cafetaria lady probably exists to free up Kevin for content. Ultimately non of these minor characters really matter in the big picture. Sure, he will have wasted quite a few weeks in total on characters which aren't needed, but does that really matter looking at the big picture? Most of these side characters are good for the game and make at least a few people really happy.

the big problem is that he also doesn't want to get better or have oversight over the project. his coder could literally work an hour a week and he probably wouldn't care or notice
I still think that in DC's mind everything is ok, as long as he's drawing new stuff for the game. It's up to his patreons to see if that's enough or not.
 
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