Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[JKH18]

Mathematics is clearly not your forte.Here is the scale of the $ increase starting from April and ending with March.
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In April, the amount of money received amounted to $ 34563, in March already $ 52013. In this case, the amount is growing all the time, earlier I already had an average income of $ 35,000. But now I’ll find it accurate. And so for the year $ 534,548 was transferred to Patreon from April 2018 to March 2019. Next, we deduct 5% tax for Patreon, we get $ 507,820 of his earnings for the year. Next, we turn to the USA tax calculator and get a net income of $ 340574 per year.
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DC pays a hell of a lot more in taxes, since he's Canadian. And on top of that, Quebec is among the highest taxed provinces in the country.

 

[Jamiek]

Why not put your intelligent brain to good use, and concern yourself with things you CAN control, and not things that don't concern you?

Because it like to see people's views on things. Even if they are as trivial as having a philosophical debate on a porn game. Its interesting to see what people have to say. Its funny and interesting at the same time. At least to me.

 

[Jonboy80]

Mathematics is clearly not your forte.Here is the scale of the $ increase starting from April and ending with March.
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In April, the amount of money received amounted to $ 34563, in March already $ 52013. In this case, the amount is growing all the time, earlier I already had an average income of $ 35,000. But now I’ll find it accurate. And so for the year $ 534,548 was transferred to Patreon from April 2018 to March 2019. Next, we deduct 5% tax for Patreon, we get $ 507,820 of his earnings for the year. Next, we turn to the USA tax calculator and get a net income of $ 340574 per year.
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My mathematics was based on his current income of around 50,000 per month and if it stayed there for the next year. I didn't dive into his past year of income as I didn't want to do the work since, in the long run, the point I was making was that not all the money goes towards game development.

 

[2xjj]

This is dumb why does anyone care how much taxes he pay it realy doesn't matter.

 

[Dogeek]

It's funny cause you're actually not even taking into account that Komaps is a company and thus is taxed way higher than individuals. Just stirring the pot.

 

[Jonboy80]

Then where are they going ?!Do not support him for the sake of what he was engaged in the development?

Business taxes, which you didn't account for.

Also, some of those working on the game work on it full time while supporting a family. Patreon is their sole source of income so it goes towards everyday living expenses. Who and how many, I can't say for sure, though I seem to remember DC himself has a wife and child.

 

[jowishg]

that Taffytale is trash though,i only play halfway through,then i delete that game...

Well the art is very very good, but hell there's 0 content

 

[Ungawa]

Okay, you probably consider the comparison of these games with this VN on RenPy exactly the same?

No. Jonboy has a decent post about what's going on and my point has always been that people give different creators different takes depending on what they like or don't like. But you really can't compare AAA gaming to adult gaming. They're two different beasts.

 

[Ungawa]

Also, some of those working on the game work on it full time while supporting a family. Patreon is their sole source of income so it goes towards everyday living expenses. Who and how many, I can't say for sure, though I seem to remember DC himself has a wife and child.

So DC is a

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[Jonboy80]

That is, you now literally recognized that the author deliberately delays with each release of the game, otherwise he will become unemployed or will he need to do something new!?

Kompass Productions website shows an, as-of-yet revealed, project that they're either planning or work has started on.

 

[Jonboy80]

Have you seen the development of this project, maybe a preview or some kind of demo version? With the same success, you can also run the "visibility" of creating a project.

It hasn't been revealed yet. There's no telling if they've even started on it yet. If I had to guess, they have a basic outline of what they want to do and nothing more. Summertime Saga is taking up all their time, currently.

 

[srksrk 68]

I just don't understand how people can keep defending this kind of stuff. DarkCookie is making $50K a month which is $600K a year. Minus what Patreon takes of course. That is a whole lot of money to only be able to put out one update every six months. To only be able to move 1% of the relative work in two weeks. One of the goals on his patreon was when he reached $30K he was going to look for other people. This is not an indie dev any more. You can't say that on $600K a year budget on a Renpy game. With the amount of money that has gone into the project, there should be updates on a monthly basis. And even that is generous, really should be every 2 weeks. It is all back to context, there are devs here that get things done much faster with little to no support.

So, with that logic, a street artist who is working on a road painting has to draw faster the more people he attracts and the more tip he gets, yes? That makes perfect sense. Not.

It's not DC's fault that people apparently like the game so much to donate all that money. Where in that whole concept is it said that he has to work faster only because people throw their mony at him?

 

[Rock H.]

As this game approaches its next release, the big question on my mind is... have they made a serious attempt to advance the main plot lines, answer the questions in the opening scenes, and fill in WIPs like the library lounge, or has it focused once again on satisfying the fetish requests of the patrons?

 

[JKH18]

Does anyone know whether we'll be getting any Iwanka content in the next update? I remember reading somewhere that there was supposed to be some scenes with her, but I'm not sure.

 

[Jonboy80]

As this game approaches its next release, the big question on my mind is... have they made a serious attempt to advance the main plot lines, answer the questions in the opening scenes, and fill in WIPs like the library lounge, or has it focused once again on satisfying the fetish requests of the patrons?

According to their road map, main plot will be advanced in .20, assuming things don't change.

.18 is Jenny, .19 is Eve, .20 is Main story.

 

[srksrk 68]

As this game approaches its next release, the big question on my mind is... have they made a serious attempt to advance the main plot lines, answer the questions in the opening scenes, and fill in WIPs like the library lounge, or has it focused once again on satisfying the fetish requests of the patrons?

Those questions have been answered long ago. Patreons voted for Jenny in 0.18, Eve in 0.19 and main story in 0.20 release.

 

[box777]

So, with that logic, a street artist who is working on a road painting has to draw faster the more people he attracts and the more tip he gets, yes? That makes perfect sense. Not.

It's not DC's fault that people apparently like the game so much to donate all that money. Where in that whole concept is it said that he has to work faster only because people throw their mony at him?

If the creator takes longer than other creators making much less money, that is the point the criticism. You make it too simple. If he is making that much money, you bet he should be working much harder than others, and apparently, others are making less are working harder. If people stop throwing money then dont complain.

 

[hapikala_donut]

Only bug fixes are left now

 

[Jonboy80]

I will explain what I am talking about.
If they really had some kind of operating time of a new game or a whole product, then SS issues would have gone much faster, since the DCs would not have to worry about income, since there is a new project. However, neither the new project nor the stable release of SS is observed. I supported this project for too long so as not to notice such an obvious scheme.

You're welcome to your opinion, negative as it may be. From what I've seen of said opinion, you mainly want a lower quality game with quick updates to satisfy your fapping needs. I don't blame you. That's the normal thing for this genre of games, so it's what you expect.

However, it's rather obvious to me that DC wants a well designed game that has some substance beyond providing spank material. Something with quality AND quantity. It does seem to me that Summertime Saga is a labor of love for him. He's doing what he wants to do with each character while allowing the patrons to dictate the order he works in. He's not having anyone tell him what to do with each character. It almost feels as though he wants to legitimize adult interactive fiction through his work. Show people that it can be more than just fapping material. I'd liken him to Sierra Lee. She also works rather slowly but puts a lot of effort into her writing and storytelling.

Personally, I feel that this sort of title isn't for you, at least, not until it's completed. You're too impatient for new material. You've become accustomed to a faster paced release cycle set down by previous creators.

 

[Jonboy80]

If the creator takes longer than other creators making much less money, that is the point the criticism. You make it too simple. If he is making that much money, you bet he should be working much harder than others, and apparently, others are making less are working harder. If people stop throwing money then dont complain.

Are they working harder though? As I said in a previous post, they're copy/pasting prerendered 3D models into pre-made rooms and taking screenshots. Oftentimes, the writing is subpar with glaring typos or grammatical errors. I'd say making every scene from scratch is harder.