Jamiek

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So, with that logic, a street artist who is working on a road painting has to draw faster the more people he attracts and the more tip he gets, yes? That makes perfect sense. Not.

It's not DC's fault that people apparently like the game so much to donate all that money. Where in that whole concept is it said that he has to work faster only because people throw their mony at him?
You completely misunderstood my point. But lets look at your example since its completely different than game development and on its own context makes no sense. If a street artist is making art and people around him come to look at his creation and throw money at him it would not make him draw faster. It may entice him to wow the crowd but thats it. But if the same street artist made a promise of a sizeable amount of art and is given a large sum of money to continue to evolve his art, would people simply sit around idly for 6 months while he mixes his paints? What if the artist continues to make more promises that would lead to a bigger picture, but that would take 6 months to finish? The problem here is that the hypothetical artist in question is no longer doing street art, they are being funded by patreon supporters. There is money going into the development of the game/art. Large sums of money that carry with it, large expectations. This is no fault of the artist that is the reality of the world. Not only that, one of his patreon goals was to hire other people to work on the game. So its no longer a street artist that we are looking at but a team of artists working on the same piece of art. It should go faster no matter in which way you look at it. But alas there are always complications.
 

Jonboy80

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Facepalm...
What kind of quality you say, the same body and different heads. Same breasts on identical bodies? The plot with Diana "wait 5-6-7-8 days." Full and ugly redrawing without which you could do? Can a branch be completed in a pool that has been from the beginning? Just ugly releases of versions 0.17.0. and 0.17.5?
Perhaps your logic follows from the fact that you did not support the author in dollars and you are satisfied with everything?
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Dianne update was also kinda subpar in comparison. Why not use the Roxxy update, which had great character progression, great art, and great scenes? Dianne suffered because she started off as the aunt and then was changed. Her story really doesn't make sense with the relationship changes.
 

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Only bug fixes are left now
in accord with the PT it still seems to code both the animation and the last amount of content related to it,since both writting isnt closed yet,and the 2 parts of coding related to both the last animation and the writing are lacking,unless both the progress trackers are wrong and the game is just on the bugfixing now...
 
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in accord with the PT it still seems to code both the animation and the last amount of content related to it,since both writting isnt closed yet,and the 2 parts of coding related to both the last animation and the writing are lacking,unless both the progress trackers are wrong and the game is just on the bugfixing now...
the writer (captainsploosh) said on discord that only bug fixes are left now
 
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zeppelin

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Neither did I. You made the argument about a point no one made which you're doing right now.



Missing the point that people stop their funding for their own reasons in a cyclical pattern which is what you're ignoring.
I have 0 clue what you're arguing in favor of or what you're even trying to say. I suspect you tried to butt into the conversation as a form of "Gotcha!" and that failed.
 
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Jonboy80

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You are already looking for extremes, Roxxy was nothing at all, a couple of simple scenes that gave nothing. I will repeat the question that you ignore, why did start to redraw? Why did they remove the branch with Diana and replace it with some sort of trash? Why bother to release any new characters when the old ones have been standing still for several years?
If all you're looking for is sex scenes, then yes. But, as I said earlier, I feel like DC is trying to show that AIF can be so much more than spank fodder. Roxxy's character development was amazing in her update. She was a character I had little interest in, being the perfect, blonde, popular girl. but, but the end of her story, she showed herself as being more than tha, that she lived a rough life with an alcoholic mother and weird-o cousin, that her relationship was abusive with Dexter and that she was loyal to her friends.

If this genre of gaming is ever going to get a proper shot at becoming more mainstream and acceptable, we have to stop looking at these games as little more than jerk-off material.

As for why new characters are being worked on and old ones being changed, that's because that's what the patrons voted for. The ones funding this game.
 

dexterblood

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If this genre of gaming is ever going to get a proper shot at becoming more mainstream and acceptable, we have to stop looking at these games as little more than jerk-off material.
Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?
 

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Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?
The decent writing and characters that you can actually be interested in. 90% of pornographics games are little more than charcaters that you quickly get in the sack after speaking to them twice.
 

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So, with that logic, a street artist who is working on a road painting has to draw faster the more people he attracts and the more tip he gets, yes? That makes perfect sense. Not.

It's not DC's fault that people apparently like the game so much to donate all that money. Where in that whole concept is it said that he has to work faster only because people throw their mony at him?
The artist isint providing a product, DC is. There is a difference between a charity and funding a product.
 
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The decent writing and characters that you can actually be interested in. 90% of pornographics games are little more than charcaters that you quickly get in the sack after speaking to them twice.
Folks arent paying for a character development which is passible at best, if they wanted that, they could just read a book. People are essentialy paying for living steroytpes getting their brains banged out.
 
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Folks arent paying for a character development which is passible at best, if they wanted that, they could just read a book. People are essentialy paying for living steroytpes getting their brains banged out.
Some are. But, by that reasoning, so many people wouldn't be tipping/paying DC for the product he's making. If that's all people wanted, they'd be paying others even more for games with quick updates to spank material. The fact that he's getting so much for a game with quality updates that have you work a bit before you start banging tends to go against what you say.
 
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You confuse porn VN and a philosophical novel about the hard life of adolescents. Also, apparently, for you this is something unusual and exciting, for me it is a common routine of gray reality, not all are born in full-fledged families. As mentioned above, if you remove porn from the game (which keeps it), it will cease to be so popular. Let's go back to Roxy, this character was just put into the game and simultaneously thrown into the face of her friends, the story was just buried, they did it "As soon as Roxy fucked, and then immediately her friends" compared to the initial releases, which were better developed both scenarioally and graphically, it looks like an attempt to do everything in a couple of weeks, after months of rest, so to speak, deadline.
And something tells me that talking about redrawing did not carry the idea of copy-paste, I previously laid out a post where absolutely 2 identical characters with different hairstyles.
If you pull anything from any game, it changes it. If you pulled the time/travel mechanic from Life Is Strange, would you still care about the game as much? Probably not. It's the common routine of a teenage girl in private school.

Yes, SS is a pornographic game. I've never said otherwise. But it's a pornagraphic game with more to it than just sex. And it's done fairly well. Much better than the "I'm a peasant boy who found an amulet that made me irresistable to all women" type of story we commonly see. Just like some people like pornographic movies with a plot (even if it's bad) and others just want a compilation of scenes so they can blow their load more quickly, so too do some people want an adult visual novel that's worth spending more than ten minutes playing.

I'm going to assume you didn't grow up during the period of TADS, Adrift and other text engines used to make these sorts of stories before the likes of Unity, Ren'py, etc. There were some great choose your own adventure novels written in those engines. Or, prior to that, an actual book you held in your hand and read. And, no, I'm not talking about Hustler or Penthouse but a bonafide erotic novel. People want that back, coupled with nice artwork to go along with it.
 

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And something tells me that talking about redrawing did not carry the idea of copy-paste, I previously laid out a post where absolutely 2 identical characters with different hairstyles.
That's obviously because they are supposed to be twin sisters. So they will of course look very similar, though
 

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It's funny cause you're actually not even taking into account that Komaps is a company and thus is taxed way higher than individuals. Just stirring the pot.
They don't care about the facts, as long as they can get away with talking shit about people and causing discord among the forum members. Certain persons here who were promoting other games in this thread, have made it their mission, to bring harm to this dev and the development of this game.
 

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Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?
Bad example. Dead or Alive has Tecmo, a publisher that nickel and dimes their customers to death along with the wrong spank fodder (their newest character is a devil loli instead of a muscle tits girl).

Now if you EVER look up Itagaki's reputation before he was pushed out of Tecmo, you'll see exactly what he liked in working on DoA as well as Ninja Gaiden. Freakishly hard games with male and female fanservice. So risk and reward were high for what you had to learn from it.

Now if you want to get into the minigames here, the basketball one is some bullshit. They should change that to the letter stuff for the fight, have it so that they have stills of your success and failures be that it shows you breaking ankles or getting stuffed and never do that shit again. But I digress.
 
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