endlust

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Well, there's no perfect solution. They can't throw it all in one big update because that would last way too long, and they can't split it in two consecutive updates (releasing the first half first and the second later once patreons vote for it again) because then you'd have a full update without real sex scenes, which is something patreons just don't tolerate. So in this area of conflict between release speed/update size, amounts of content and sex scenes they'll have to find a way and went for a compromise. I mean, we do get bigger updates now, so it's likely only 2 or 3 updates per character instead of 4 or more.
I agree, you're right there isn't a perfect solution. I just think there is a more efficient path forward than his current model. As I said earlier, his dev plan is kinda backwards. He's building the branches of the tree before the trunk.

Updates are taking longer and longer to complete anyway and characters' stories could be completed if there was more structure. He could have finished the main story and still added sex scenes for characters while he finished it. As it is currently, there are some core systems/features that will not only permeate every character (dating, main story, pregnancy) but require tweeks and adjustments along the way. DC is trying to squeeze those systems into every girl's story instead of building around them which can lead to confusion/frustration for players.
 
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kimjongew

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Not gonna lie, the way he mentioned the 18.5 update before (I thought he said art had been done already?), I figured it was just waiting on animation so it'd be a week or two postponement. Not a month or more.

I'm not supporting and in no big rush, but there does seem to be some big issues with development and management.

Looking at another project being developed: Wildlife was making 10k when SS was in the 30k region and managed to get content up, create another, separate game and hire a team.

Now Wildlife is making almost the same amount, but the quality and amount of content they're producing is far higher. They've managed to acquire an office for work, they have a good team structure and someone who is managing the development to optimize everything.

They look professional and SS is just not. I understand in the past that DC said $30k was the goal and that's it, but he hasn't even staffed the team based off that goal (afaik) and with the amount he makes now it should really be a professional quality.
 

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Not gonna lie, the way he mentioned the 18.5 update before (I thought he said art had been done already?), I figured it was just waiting on animation so it'd be a week or two postponement. Not a month or more.

I'm not supporting and in no big rush, but there does seem to be some big issues with development and management.

Looking at another project being developed: Wildlife was making 10k when SS was in the 30k region and managed to get content up, create another, separate game and hire a team.

Now Wildlife is making almost the same amount, but the quality and amount of content they're producing is far higher. They've managed to acquire an office for work, they have a good team structure and someone who is managing the development to optimize everything.

They look professional and SS is just not. I understand in the past that DC said $30k was the goal and that's it, but he hasn't even staffed the team based off that goal (afaik) and with the amount he makes now it should really be a professional quality.
Well then, don't support Summertime Saga. But, hey, you already don't. Not sure how you can be helped then. Play Wild Life and be happy maybe?

The main difference between the two seem to be hand drawn vs. rendered images. It is well known that the second are much easier to produce. I don't know Wild Life and I am surprised where out of a sudden that came from, because I was under the impression that Summetime Saga was the top adult project on patreon. If they provide content as fast as you say then I am happy for their community. But they require a $10 tier to get the uncensored thing as far as I see, while from DC you get everything for free.
 
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kimjongew

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Well then, don't support Summertime Saga. But, hey, you already don't. Not sure how you can be helped then. Play Wild Life and be happy maybe?

The main difference between the two seem to be hand drawn vs. rendered images. It is well known that the second are much easier to produce. I don't know Wild Life and I am surprised where out of a sudden that came from, because I was under the impression that Summetime Saga was the top adult project on patreon. If they provide content as fast as you say then I am happy for their community. But they require a $10 tier to get the uncensored thing as far as I see, while from DC you get everything for free.
1.) Attempting to discount posts that are contrary to your view, because you likely lack a legitimate or sensible argument to support your view. Notice how I don't bash DC or the project, but simply compareed SS to another game and point out ways to improve content?

2.) You're on F95, the content is free regardless. It honestly doesn't matter whether or not DC is providing the content for free or not. You've got two products making similar amounts with a large disparity in content.

3.) Blindly feeding on content, being passively aggressive to those you don't agree with and refusing to acknowledge any issues or potential ways to improve doesn't help anyone. It just makes you look bad and causes hostile responses plain and simple. That being said we are, again, on F95, thus I don't expect DC to see nor care about responses here. I'm simply pointing out obvious things.
 

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Not gonna lie, the way he mentioned the 18.5 update before (I thought he said art had been done already?), I figured it was just waiting on animation so it'd be a week or two postponement. Not a month or more.

I'm not supporting and in no big rush, but there does seem to be some big issues with development and management.

Looking at another project being developed: Wildlife was making 10k when SS was in the 30k region and managed to get content up, create another, separate game and hire a team.

Now Wildlife is making almost the same amount, but the quality and amount of content they're producing is far higher. They've managed to acquire an office for work, they have a good team structure and someone who is managing the development to optimize everything.

They look professional and SS is just not. I understand in the past that DC said $30k was the goal and that's it, but he hasn't even staffed the team based off that goal (afaik) and with the amount he makes now it should really be a professional quality.
Wildlife cut out the entire Lesbian sex animations last time I checked.
 

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After saving Crystal from prison i can't proceed story like Seliing Meth because don't have that option and only that this option 'This isridiculous, I know you're Clyde!. I hope someone post latest save files so i can play the game and the last thing is the Goal Tracker only show Hints coming later...
 

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I have i question from previous updates i was under the impression that Jenny was bisexual (wathing lesbian porn , playing whit Roxy's tits and so on .. ) , i was hoping for some ffm treesome is any of this planed or that is all so scraped?
 

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I have i question from previous updates i was under the impression that Jenny was bisexual (wathing lesbian porn , playing whit Roxy's tits and so on .. ) , i was hoping for some ffm treesome is any of this planed or that is all so scraped?
since 18.5 is supposed to be pretty short I highly doubt any kind of jenny 3some happens anytime soon, try 2025 again.
 

Slifer83

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I love this game. it is the best ever. I always look forward to the new updates, but 6 months, to develop the story of a single character, they seem to me too many.
 

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since 18.5 is supposed to be pretty short I highly doubt any kind of jenny 3some happens anytime soon, try 2025 again.
Seems like a missed opportunity. We know Debbie is Bi so there could have been a great story line leading up to a threesome with both Jenny and Debbie. Jenny knows the MC is fucking Debbie but Debbie as yet dosn't know he's fucking Jenny and is still trying to keep their relationship (Debbie and the MC) secret from Jenny.

There could have been some event chain where Jenny catches Debbie and the MC and vise versa, something along with what happened on the couch in BB. If the MC was fucking Jenny or Debbie in a public place in the house there'd be an RNG check to see if the other girl caught them at which point depending on how far into the event chain the player was the other girl could call them out stopping the sex or just leave, secretly watch, openly watch, and finally join in.

More work to be sure but god danm if that wouldn't be awesome to play through.
 
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