ImTransAndTiny

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Honestly, I did not think about rape during that scene. I found those tiny details like "What happened to three?" just funny. I hope nobody is offended by a game, I saw much worse in other media (incl. games). If a rape victim plays porn games, I hope he/she knows what might be coming.
Oh, for sure. I've seen much worse, and you can joke about anything if you do it right. (Proof: ). Anon clearly never felt any fear or objection to what was happening (other than getting his dick slapped). As I said, I was skeptical that I would like Yoyo, but this was actually a pretty funny way to get Anon to fuck her.

And yes, anyone who has been sexually assaulted may run into something triggering while playing a porn game. That would be 1 out of every 6 American women, 1 out of every 33 American men, and 1 out of every 2 transgender women. It's happened to me, and it will probably happen again.

This scene was pretty low on the trigger scale. As I said, I thought it was funny. I pointed it out because we're so programmed to think about rape a certain way: it's always man-on-woman, and it's always violent. That way of thinking is so deeply ingrained that most people probably won't think "rape" when they see Yoyo touching Anon's penis without his consent, and having sexual intercourse with him without asking for consent, though he did seem to consent and enjoy what happened. I'm just pointing it out to get people to think about it, and maybe think differently about the issue. Men can be raped, and not just by other men. Maybe someone here needed to hear that, or maybe not.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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We already know you searched this place with her. Now we need to know if you showed Innocent Witches too, so her Harry Potter memories are ruined forever
Not by me.
Apparently the porn on that topic is highly advanced already and ruined whatever there was in the first place. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

splingmer

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I'm saying that you are just as dumb as they are for thinking a tech update (given the size of this game) would take three to four months.
Yes. That would be a dumb thing to think. Given the size and complexity of the codebase, and knowing the engine it uses, a couple of competent developers should be able to refactor the whole thing in about six weeks. I've done bigger projects in less time all by myself.

If they're not just fixing code, but are also redoing all the art from scratch, then it would take longer. Yet even as well, there is no reason for it to take years.

They have enough money to pay a team to work full time. In the time they have spent, if they really were working full time, they could have put out twenty times as much content.

I'm not saying they are doing anything wrong. They are following the rules. If users are willing to pay them for delays, then it's smart to delay, and hurrying would be a bad choice.

I just think it's silly for people to try and claim they're hurrying. They're not. They are going as slow as possible. We all know that.
 

srksrk 68

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You haven't missed much content since then. I would wait until it releases in another 4-5 years.
You are a funny guy. He missed everything that I ever saw from the game, which is:

0.20.16: October 31st 2022 (Halloween) -> 1+ month
0.20.15: September 25th 2022 (Pre-tech part V) -> 5 months
0.20.14: April 29th 2022 (Pre-tech part IV) -> 2+ months
0.20.13: February 19th 2022 (Pre-tech part III) -> 4 months
0.20.12: October 22nd 2021 (Pre-tech part II) -> 4- months
0.20.11: July 1st 2021 (Pre-tech part I) -> 3 months
0.20.9: March 31st 2021 (main story 3) -> 5 months
0.20.7: October 25th 2020 (Odette Halloween) -> 1.5 months
0.20.5: September 7th 2020 (main story 2) -> 4 months
0.20.1: May 5th 2020 (main story) -> 5+ months
0.19.5: December 20th 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
0.19.1: October 19th 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
0.18.5: June 4th 2019 (Jenny 2) -> 1 month
0.18.0: May 2nd 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
0.17.5: Dec 16th 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
0.17.0: Nov 23rd 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
0.16.0: July 25th 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
0.15.1: April 15th 2018 (teachers) -> 4 months
0.14.5: December 19th 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
0.14.3: November 1st 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
0.14: October 13th 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
0.13: August 21st 2017 (Erik)

And this list does not cover the first half of 2017 even.
 
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Count Morado

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I just think it's silly for people to try and claim they're hurrying. They're not. They are going as slow as possible. We all know that.
I don't know anyone who is claiming that they are hurrying. I know I am not claiming that at all.
I do know know that there are people who claim they are going as slow as possible. I also am not claiming that at all.
 

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Yes. That would be a dumb thing to think. Given the size and complexity of the codebase, and knowing the engine it uses, a couple of competent developers should be able to refactor the whole thing in about six weeks. I've done bigger projects in less time all by myself.

If they're not just fixing code, but are also redoing all the art from scratch, then it would take longer. Yet even as well, there is no reason for it to take years.

They have enough money to pay a team to work full time. In the time they have spent, if they really were working full time, they could have put out twenty times as much content.

I'm not saying they are doing anything wrong. They are following the rules. If users are willing to pay them for delays, then it's smart to delay, and hurrying would be a bad choice.

I just think it's silly for people to try and claim they're hurrying. They're not. They are going as slow as possible. We all know that.
I wish dc for some reason goes bankrupt, another more competent developer saves the project and dc is forced to be a side artist of the project to pay the bills, THE ONLY THING this game had was an interesting art style and incest, now we don't have any incest, other artists make the sex scenes and dc spends time doing the most pointless stuff of the game(background, redraw character features that barely changes anything, and adding pointless pregnancy stuff) and that's pretty much it
 

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I wish dc for some reason goes bankrupt, another more competent developer saves the project and dc is forced to be a side artist of the project to pay the bills, THE ONLY THING this game had was an interesting art style and incest, now we don't have any incest, other artists make the sex scenes and dc spends time doing the most pointless stuff of the game(background, redraw character features that barely changes anything, and adding pointless pregnancy stuff) and that's pretty much it
DC said several times, that even if the game wouldn't make any money at all, he'd continue developing it as a side project next to his actual job. So be careful what you wish for or we may have to return to DC's own coding and quest design - and in that case god may help us all.

PS: He's indeed drawing every asset that's in the game himself. Yes, the animations are done by others, but of course he's the one who creates the assets to create them in the first place.
 

SatansSausage

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Is it just me or are previous saves not compatible with this update (20-16)? I get the dreaded error which when ignored takes me straight back the very beginning at Dad's funeral. Please help if you can. Not sure I can go through the whole thing again. I'd reached as much as possible in 20-15.
 

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Dunno and the Maria part is the whole point of the early main route since the 1st 0.20 update came out
I wish dc for some reason goes bankrupt, another more competent developer saves the project and dc is forced to be a side artist of the project to pay the bills, THE ONLY THING this game had was an interesting art style and incest, now we don't have any incest, other artists make the sex scenes and dc spends time doing the most pointless stuff of the game(background, redraw character features that barely changes anything, and adding pointless pregnancy stuff) and that's pretty much it
Backgrounds getting 1/3 larger since the game is going 16:9 is pointless ?
Redraw characters with no black lines on their faces making them look 60+ when they're teens is pointless ?
Pregnancy being 1 of the main fetish/selling point since the Patreon started in 2016, so it's pointless ?

Making sense is also pointless
Is it just me or are previous saves not compatible with this update (20-16)? I get the dreaded error which when ignored takes me straight back the very beginning at Dad's funeral. Please help if you can. Not sure I can go through the whole thing again. I'd reached as much as possible in 20-15.
Might happen if you skip too many builds and try to load a save from 4 years ago. Also, does it stay on day 1 after you load or does it swap around to other places if you click through stuff ? Then keep in mind your save will be dead when the tech build comes out (whenever that is), so everything you do now (restart or not) will be voided once you get the tech update
 

randomguy6516265165

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Maria seems to be bugged Tony says she is on the storeroom but she isnt there can anyone else try to have sex with her and see if it works?
 
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Count Morado

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Is it just me or are previous saves not compatible with this update (20-16)? I get the dreaded error which when ignored takes me straight back the very beginning at Dad's funeral. Please help if you can. Not sure I can go through the whole thing again. I'd reached as much as possible in 20-15.
This can happen across any update with a game in development, particularly depending upon what location/during what action/scene the player had the MC when they saved. That said, that is why there is a "start at new content" option available if you select "new game." Skip through the "last seen" kind of introduction, answer 2 questions and you should start with everything up through v0.20.15 completed. In the announcement about this release (and it's been pretty standard for these pre-tech updates):

Old saved games:
Many of the new scenes are integrated into existing stories, as a result if you have already completed those stories in your save, you will need to use New Content mode to play them. Hints and (for those that want) instructions to find the new scenes can be found in the in-game changelog (click the version number on the main menu), by clicking on the line marked "Spoilers".​
 

SatansSausage

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This can happen across any update with a game in development, particularly depending upon what location/during what action/scene the player had the MC when they saved. That said, that is why there is a "start at new content" option available if you select "new game." Skip through the "last seen" kind of introduction, answer 2 questions and you should start with everything up through v0.20.15 completed. In the announcement about this release (and it's been pretty standard for these pre-tech updates):

Old saved games:
Many of the new scenes are integrated into existing stories, as a result if you have already completed those stories in your save, you will need to use New Content mode to play them. Hints and (for those that want) instructions to find the new scenes can be found in the in-game changelog (click the version number on the main menu), by clicking on the line marked "Spoilers".​
Well there you go! Seems I was panicking for no good reason, thanks for the extremely rapid and clear explanation, I'll give that a try.
 
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Been a while since I've played the game..
What is the mod to unlock all the scene in the cookie jar?

(yes I'm aware of online gallery but that's not what I'm currently looking for)
 

metallicaphil

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Every update new character lol. After Roxxy's update the game's progress turn into milking mode. And also it's easy to hire people who will just comment positively in his stream dontcha think? :KEK::sneaky:
funnily enough, it wasn't long after the Roxy update that i stopped supporting him on patreon
 
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Omnikuken

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Been a while since I've played the game..
What is the mod to unlock all the scene in the cookie jar?

(yes I'm aware of online gallery but that's not what I'm currently looking for)
There is no mod (that won't fuck your game). Use the phone menu in-game (it's been posted like last night or today, look around a few pages back)
Maria seems to be bugged Tony says she is on the storeroom but she isnt there can anyone else try to have sex with her and see if it works?
Ignore what the game dialogue says and check the phone hints, you might need to do something else/wait a few days
 
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ImTransAndTiny

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DC said several times, that even if the game wouldn't make any money at all, he'd continue developing it as a side project next to his actual job. So be careful what you wish for or we may have to return to DC's own coding and quest design - and in that case god may help us all.
Of course, being an open source project by virtue of being written in Ren'Py, the community could always organize and fork development.
 
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