itsyeboii

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And where on patreon does it state that by becoming a patreon supporter somone is entitled to the finished project or telling a dev or team how to run their company, team or how they have to spend their money?
I can support whatever i want and if i don't like the direction a project is going i can simply stop supporting. Pretty easy. Pretty simple.

Yes people donate to support the project. And the support always increases when a release is approaching. But the game is free. You could spend 0$ a year and still get the game. I don't get all the arguing on how this project should be handled or who is entitled to something.

No one is entitled to shit just because they supported the game for a while. By that logic i would own innocent witches. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Patreon's TOS also doesn't force DC to give substantial updates. He could do only bug fixes for the foreseeable future like Cloud Meadow and he'd be right within TOS. But I'm talking about principle here. Summertime Saga wouldn't be possible without Patrons and he wouldn't be raking in the amount of money he does without them. Pretty easy, pretty simple.

I don't think DC is necessarily doing something wrong but to claim that he owes no one anything is bullshit in my opinion. In his position I would freeze payments until the tech update is done, you know, out of good will. Or maybe don't put polls behind a paywall and make them public on Discord. He doesn't care about money so why wouldn't he?

This is just my opinion of course but I'd say it's a reasonable one.
 

StreamSteam

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In case anyone cares, I've updated the online gallery with the new scenes, you can see them here.
Normally I say play the update first but in this case it's not worth it, it's just new positions.

Previews.
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I think you should learn how to make a sentence without a grammar error before you try and criticize someone. You just look like a fool. For the record, I'm not defending them, I'm saying that you are just as dumb as they are for thinking a tech update (given the size of this game) would take three to four months.
LMAo!! I don't give a single fuck about grammar. Imagine being a porn game forum and acting as the grammar police.. for the record, feel free to point out where I said 3-4 months? I said that the dev said 12 months, that is it. fuckin moron... GrAmMaR PoLiCe!! WoOoOoO WoOoOoO
 

Omnikuken

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Whenever I click on these 2 marked Scene on the Cookie-Jar, I get an error. And seems to be stuck after I select the "New Content" option from the New-Game menu. Am I the only one who is facing this problem . Can anyone help me!! Please & ThankU. View attachment 2140629
Start by removing whatever mod you got and try again
 

Count Morado

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Can someone share a full save please? I just want to see the scenes.
See #7 from my FAQ #67,535
Have they expanded on the details on what the tech update will bring? I know wide screen, but due to the time investment I can only imagine there's more than I remember.
See #10 from my FAQ #67,535 for a few more details that I've gleaned through previous posts, though I don't think it even covers it all.
 

Whatever88885

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Is there some new stupid patreon guidline that prohibits use of the word school as in High school? First Taffy Tales started with the colege bullshit now this. Tired of the mental gimnastics you are forced to go through to fill în the blanks. News flash Debby ia Your mom, Jenny is Your sister , Tammy is Kevins mother etc. In a world where You can watch the most disgusting and gruesome shit, people being beheaded, etc, this gets censored. Because heaven forbid.
 
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Omnikuken

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Is there some new stupid patreon guidline that prohibits use of the word school as in High school? First Taffy Tales started with the colege bullshit now this. Tired of the mental gimnastics you are forced to go through to fill în the blanks. News flash Debby ia Your mom, Jenny is Your sister , Tammy is Kevins mother etc. In a world where You can watch the most disgusting and gruesome shit, people being beheaded, etc, this gets censored. Because heaven forbid.
All the typos aside, Tammy is Erik's "mom", since you seem hellbent on not moving on with a thing Patreon banned 5 years ago
 

Count Morado

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Is there some new stupid patreon guidline that prohibits use of the word school as in High school? First Taffy Tales started with the colege bullshit now this. Tired of the mental gimnastics you are forced to go through to fill în the blanks. News flash Debby ia Your mom, Jenny is Your sister , Tammy is Kevins mother etc. In a world where You can watch the most disgusting and gruesome shit, people being beheaded, etc, this gets censored. Because heaven forbid.
It's not a new guideline. It's been that way for 5+ years. Any implication that the creator's work promoted on Patreon has nudity or sexual content of characters - real or imagined - who are considered under the age of 18 can cause a creator's account to be terminated. Having the setting as high school implies inclusion of characters who are under the age of 18. It moved from being a high school to college at the same time relationships were changed before v0.13 when the account (and other creators' of similarly themed content) were frozen until changes were made which Patreon allowed. Creators had the choice of coming into some kind of compliance or losing their accounts. The developer chose to remain on Patreon.

If you find content from another creator that is promoted on Patreon that doesn't follow TOU, they haven't been caught. Yet.
what new scenes are there?
(Sorry for my bad english)
See #4 from my FAQ #67,535
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Patreon's TOS also doesn't force DC to give substantial updates. He could do only bug fixes for the foreseeable future like Cloud Meadow and he'd be right within TOS. But I'm talking about principle here. Summertime Saga wouldn't be possible without Patrons and he wouldn't be raking in the amount of money he does without them. Pretty easy, pretty simple.

I don't think DC is necessarily doing something wrong but to claim that he owes no one anything is bullshit in my opinion. In his position I would freeze payments until the tech update is done, you know, out of good will. Or maybe don't put polls behind a paywall and make them public on Discord. He doesn't care about money so why wouldn't he?

This is just my opinion of course but I'd say it's a reasonable one.
OFC it is a reasonable request for you but not for the side recieving the money. But i have to assume now that you are young (which i am not) and didn't learn a certain lesson in life yet.

Either you make money or you follow principles. If you wanna make lots of money you have to throw your principles out the window. If you wanna follow principles alot of business opportunities will slip through your fingers that could make alot of money.

If you think getting rich is done by pleasing others you are in for a surprise.
I write for a living in the german language. If i please everyone who buys my stuff i don't make a penny. I have to please only 2 people. My publisher and my agent. The rest i don't give a shit about as those 2 ensure my income. Sure fans can voice their opinion or critique but thats just for show. No one actually listens to them.

Same with this project. DC could do what you suggest and please alot of people including yourself. But lose thousands of dollars in the process over months with even the chance of never making that amount ever again.
No one would ever do such a thing. Including you.

You gotta beat the iron as long as its hot.

I totally understand your approach. But i also know the business side of things. What you suggest will never happen because that would mean to throw money away.
 

itsyeboii

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OFC it is a reasonable request for you but not for the side recieving the money. But i have to assume now that you are young (which i am not) and didn't learn a certain lesson in life yet.

Either you make money or you follow principles. If you wanna make lots of money you have to throw your principles out the window. If you wanna follow principles alot of business opportunities will slip through your fingers that could make alot of money.

If you think getting rich is done by pleasing others you are in for a surprise.
I write for a living in the german language. If i please everyone who buys my stuff i don't make a penny. I have to please only 2 people. My publisher and my agent. The rest i don't give a shit about as those 2 ensure my income. Sure fans can voice their opinion or critique but thats just for show. No one actually listens to them.

Same with this project. DC could do what you suggest and please alot of people including yourself. But lose thousands of dollars in the process over months with even the chance of never making that amount ever again.
No one would ever do such a thing. Including you.

You gotta beat the iron as long as its hot.

I totally understand your approach. But i also know the business side of things. What you suggest will never happen because that would mean to throw money away.
You're right, I'm young. But I do know that being a goody-two-shoes who always does the right thing isn't going to get you very far in life. You have to do unethical things to get rich. I do think it isn't completely black and white though, you can still make decent money while also being somewhat ethical, but that's completely off-topic.

Anyways, while what you're saying is true, it also supports what people have been saying in this thread. DC does care about money and he sure as hell doesn't rush development to complete the game. I've said this before; it isn't that far of a reach that DC doesn't hire new people, perpetuates development and/or is taking his sweet time with this game because the revenue he gets now isn't guaranteed to last. Who says that his next project will be as successful as SS, or even if SS stays as successful as it is now? It's happened countless of times that porn devs lose their audience and by extension, their revenue.

The dude can take the bag, more power to him. But some people here need to stop their delusional dickriding and see the situation for what it is. The game's development is in a sad state right now and, again, it isn't that far fetched to entertain the idea that DC isn't just an innocent guy trying his hardest to make a good game but just sucks at leading a project.

I can't look in the dude's head and I might be completely wrong, but you simply can't tell me that there isn't incentive for him to stretch out SS money.
 
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