Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[kikilake12]

sploosh said: Other than fixing file names (which he will still be doing after the tech update releases because there are still characters who aren't rigged), DC is done with everything we need for the tech update. Anything he does from this point forward is just icing on top of the cake.

 

[Count Morado]

sploosh said: Other than fixing file names (which he will still be doing after the tech update releases because there are still characters who aren't rigged), DC is done with everything we need for the tech update. Anything he does from this point forward is just icing on top of the cake.

Right, and DC has basically been done with his part of the tech update for a long time. The coder and the posers are the ones with most of the outstanding tasks necessary for the tech update.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

Right, and DC has basically been done with his part of the tech update for a long time. The coder and the posers are the ones with most of the outstanding tasks necessary for the tech update.

Is he actually done, though? This was off of yesterday's stream, which was focused on expanding the background for the art teacher (it's been years and I can't remember her name) sex scene:


We keep seeing things like this crop up from time to time, almost like he forgets that there is still artwork that needs to be converted and it never comes up until a coder or poser gets to that section and has to remind him.

 

[TaurusBR]

2 years ago, tech update was 80%, now 2 years later it is 82%, that is (correct me if I'm wrong), the game will be completed in 18 years?! Apparently, it could be the other way around, 18% were completed and the other 82% is still missing, which in theory would be 82 years?!

 

[Count Morado]

Is he actually done, though? This was off of yesterday's stream, which was focused on expanding the background for the art teacher (it's been years and I can't remember her name) sex scene:
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We keep seeing things like this crop up from time to time, almost like he forgets that there is still artwork that needs to be converted and it never comes up until a coder or poser gets to that section and has to remind him.

I understand what you are saying. And as we have all said, his project manager skills suck. However, this isn't what is holding up the tech update. It's the coding and the posing.

What I am about to say will appear to be "defending DC," but it's standard with many projects and anyone who has worked on a large project is aware of this - things slip through the cracks, such as a handful of backgrounds or "oops, missed redoing this piece" here and there.

Like you say - he forgets or missing things. There are 19,000+ image files, including hundred or so of background files (or a couple of hundred). What's undeniable is that DC's artwork is not the bottleneck in the tech update. Implying or explicitly stating that it is would not be a correct summation of the situation. We both know this.

 

[j4yj4m]

Is he actually done, though? This was off of yesterday's stream, which was focused on expanding the background for the art teacher (it's been years and I can't remember her name) sex scene:
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We keep seeing things like this crop up from time to time, almost like he forgets that there is still artwork that needs to be converted and it never comes up until a coder or poser gets to that section and has to remind him.

I guess we are talking about scenes which aren't/weren't supposed to be reworked, yet? As far as I'm aware, they never intended to convert these into widescreen, as some of them would be replaced eventually.

Those scenes, which are supposed to remain will be converted to 16:9 (every scene from 0.16. onward), those who are due to be reworked/replaced will stay in 4:3 (those created before 0.16.). At least that's how I understood it up to now.

Then again, it's certainly true that you'll almost always find something you've forgotten during your preparation, while you are doing to actual job that follows.

 

[Mika2820270]

Some people said that it was our fault to vote for the tech update instead fo the other routes.
For my personal opinion DC could have completed all routes and then do the tech update as a polish version of the game.
Also DC it not at fault there they didn't know that they would so much problems with the codes and the posing.

 

[McSlut]

Some people said that it was our fault to vote for the tech update instead fo the other routes.

it's not because back then he said it would take as much time as a regular update so 3-4 months. if he was being honest nobody would have voted for the tech update knowing it would take years with no end in sight. i also don't buy that you can miscalculate the scope of the project by years no matter how shitty of a project manager you are

 

[impropertaboo]

2 years ago, tech update was 80%, now 2 years later it is 82%, that is (correct me if I'm wrong), the game will be completed in 18 years?! Apparently, it could be the other way around, 18% were completed and the other 82% is still missing, which in theory would be 82 years?!

no, it means the tech update will be completed in 18 years. and if things continue at this pace, it will take him another 100 years to finish the next update.

 

[exirock]

For my personal opinion DC could have completed all routes and then do the tech update as a polish version of the game.
Also DC it not at fault there they didn't know that they would so much problems with the codes and the posing.

That would have been the best route to take, but tech was the choice they made and the development of tech is nowhere near the end has it still missing alot of stuff to do, probably 2025 we will see the end or end of 2024, but i have to say they were aware of the problems they were going to face they just never thought it would take them this long, Dc needs to stop acting like there isnt a problem, cause the coder has alot on his shoulders and an extra hand would have been a lifesaver sure it would have reduced a bit on first week the coding but by now they would have progressed alot, posing isnt helping either cause i heard many times they the reason of the slow progression and its building up more work for the coder.

 

[Hero1]

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[Ichii]

I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.

 

[j4yj4m]

I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.

Why would anybody spend money, so he can vote to not give money? It's really way, way simpler: If you are happy with what you get, you give money, if you are not, you don't.

If 2/3 of people think that DC is too slow, they should just cancel their pledge. It's basically the same effort as casting a vote in a poll and it's much more effective.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

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As expected, the Rhonda material from stream ended up as our monthly "please don't unsubscribe guyz" wallpaper. Are these supposed to be phone wallpapers, though? The dimensions are for 1080p, but unless you leave a second screen permanently on portrait mode for comics and hentai work documents it'd make for an awkward fit on a normal monitor. And though I don't like to judge, you'd have to be a special kind of degenerate to leave up cartoon smut as your phone background when out in public.

 

[j4yj4m]

As expected, the Rhonda material from stream ended up as our monthly "please don't unsubscribe guyz" wallpaper. Are these supposed to be phone wallpapers, though? The dimensions are for 1080p, but unless you leave a second screen permanently on portrait mode for comics and hentai work documents it'd make for an awkward fit on a normal monitor. And though I don't like to judge, you'd have to be a special kind of degenerate to leave up cartoon smut as your phone background when out in public.

We've seen that resolution before with some of Jenny's images. I'd guess these are supposed to be cutscenes/pictures, which will be sent to MC's phone in the game.

Edit: The number of patrons who actually use these images as "wallpapers" is probably close to 0% - no matter if it's on PC or on mobile. At least I'd be surprised if anybody is actually giving DC aditional money just to get these.

 

[dkatryl]

I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.

I mean, i think DC's output vs compensation has been laughably skewed in the wrong direction like most people, but some of these suggestions last page or two?

Dafuq?

Setting aside that these suggestions are being made by people already not supporting him, but how would that logistically work better than simply cancelling support?

"Here's a donation, im gonna put it in this digital pot via a payment service, now dance monkey, or else im gonna go use this imaginary infrastructure through which i'll deny payment, an option that the payment service will love to make so that you can cancel payment which means they dont get their commission?"

Good luck with that.

 

[Count Morado]

yes and we both know he owns it all and in 4 years there was basically no progress he was making and remaking constantly for absolutely no reason the "main story" with all that money he could have already hired 50000 coders he could have spent money to boost the progress people are paying him for that reason not to go every other month on a vacation for 2 weeks not for him to buy houses work on the game for 1 hour at most a day cause on the streams you can clearly see that there is no progress he is constantly speaking to the same lonely losers who have absolutely nothing better to do then simp for him he is not working at all and you know it too, its not the skill that he cant manage it, he doesnt want to he has absolutely no incentive, he is not even doing 2 hours streams if by any chance the stream is 2 hours long he did mostly speak to chat do dumb quizzes and scribbles but not do the work needed, he isnt streaming for 5 days now , he takes off almost every monday and then another day of the week changes, he gives people dumb excuses he could have avoided or done the stream later he choose the time of streams but the after 45 minutes of goofing he just randomly says he "needs to go cause the kids" or some other bullshit that anyone else could have done he has a big family we know that too he can ask for help but he rather obviously skips streams or abandon them halfway, and yes we all know that you are gonna remove this comment AGAIN like every other that states FACTS

I don't have the power to remove any comment. And that's the fact, jack.

"in 4 years there was basically no progress" is not a fact. The main story was wrapped up, Eve's story was rounded out, Consuela's story was created, and more. And then the 2 years+ on the Tech update and release progress hit the wall outside of pre-tech updates.
You can't hire 50,000 coders on the subscription money they get. So, you stated another non-fact.
He doesn't go on vacation every other month. That's another non-fact.
"He isn't streaming for 5 days now" Is not a fact -- Streamed today. Streamed Friday, Streamed Thursday. Streamed Wednesday, Streamed last Tuesday.

Looks like no monday streamm
You know what, I'm going to stop there.

I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.

There's a voting system already in place. If patreons aren't satisfied, they can vote with their wallet by terminating their subscription. So, that 60k tells you what they voted for. If you dont' like it, that's fine. Bitching about what a developer makes here and the like is farting in the wind. We are here to play games for free - without paying for them in any way, shape, or form. Bitching about others doing so (even when it's not the case - such as here since the game is available to everyone for free from the developer) is moot at best, hypocrisy at worst.

This game is dead lol. Imagine being this guy (darkcookie) and just cashing in monthly on those patreon suckers. Lol. I would if I could. I'm going to predict this: within 1-5 years this guy will be like "I'm not gonna continue this game and sorry for everybody but I want to focus on my personal life" saying that he will have cashed, crashed and fully made bank making a freakin' porn game. I like him for his sketchyness. however be real. drop the support, fuck this guy and move on with your life. Go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.

Few people here subscribe. The great majority of us are on this site BECAUSE we won't pay a penny. Half your entire post is moot. Follow your own advice: go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

I don't have the power to remove any comment. And that's the fact, jack.

"in 4 years there was basically no progress" is not a fact. The main story was wrapped up, Eve's story was rounded out, Consuela's story was created, and more. And then the 2 years+ on the Tech update and release progress hit the wall outside of pre-tech updates.
You can't hire 50,000 coders on the subscription money they get. So, you stated another non-fact.
He doesn't go on vacation every other month. That's another non-fact.
"He isn't streaming for 5 days now" Is not a fact -- Streamed today. Streamed Friday, Streamed Thursday. Streamed Wednesday, Streamed last Tuesday.
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Looks like no monday streamm
You know what, I'm going to stop there.
There's a voting system already in place. If patreons aren't satisfied, they can vote with their wallet by terminating their subscription. So, that 60k tells you what they voted for. If you dont' like it, that's fine. Bitching about what a developer makes here and the like is farting in the wind. We are here to play games for free - without paying for them in any way, shape, or form. Bitching about others doing so (even when it's not the case - such as here since the game is available to everyone for free from the developer) is moot at best, hypocrisy at worst.
Few people here subscribe. The great majority of us are on this site BECAUSE we won't pay a penny. Half your entire post is moot. Follow your own advice: go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.

Count Morado every day be like



Gotta pick your battles, man. If it takes you longer than 10 minutes to work out a post, I recommend taking a walk instead.

 

[deathyface]

I stopped supporting DC quite some time ago. I have little doubt he'll eventually finish the game but spending over a year now (longer I think) on the tech update is utter insanity not to mention unnecessary. The game should've been content complete before beginning this. I mean I subbed years ago to DC for nearly 2 years in the hopes oF Judith and Eve content, eventually got the Eve content but after god knows how many years still nothing for Judith.


Amazing game that immediately went downhill the moment the patreon changes came into place. Everything slowed down after that, I know it wasn't the cause but it was the timing for sure. Genuinely hope I'll be able to come back to this in a couple years and enjoy a feature and content complete game but I have severe doubts.

Ultimately the money being made in relation to the content being produced is utter insanity, while I understand he's not actually getting 60k a month after taxes and paying staff he's still making a significant amount of money producing effectively 0 results for those paying him. I've defended DC a lot in the past but can't really do it now. Theres symptoms of burnout there I'm sure but there is 100% an element of prolonging development for increased profit.

 

[AgentKoko]

I think it's better to pause the comments on this thread for the time being. Negativity shouldn't be an option, especially when you're getting the content without paying for it.