exirock

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For my personal opinion DC could have completed all routes and then do the tech update as a polish version of the game.
Also DC it not at fault there they didn't know that they would so much problems with the codes and the posing.
That would have been the best route to take, but tech was the choice they made and the development of tech is nowhere near the end has it still missing alot of stuff to do, probably 2025 we will see the end or end of 2024, but i have to say they were aware of the problems they were going to face they just never thought it would take them this long, Dc needs to stop acting like there isnt a problem, cause the coder has alot on his shoulders and an extra hand would have been a lifesaver sure it would have reduced a bit on first week the coding but by now they would have progressed alot, posing isnt helping either cause i heard many times they the reason of the slow progression and its building up more work for the coder.
 

Ichii

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I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.
 

j4yj4m

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I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.
Why would anybody spend money, so he can vote to not give money? It's really way, way simpler: If you are happy with what you get, you give money, if you are not, you don't.

If 2/3 of people think that DC is too slow, they should just cancel their pledge. It's basically the same effort as casting a vote in a poll and it's much more effective.
 

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As expected, the Rhonda material from stream ended up as our monthly "please don't unsubscribe guyz" wallpaper. Are these supposed to be phone wallpapers, though? The dimensions are for 1080p, but unless you leave a second screen permanently on portrait mode for comics and hentai work documents it'd make for an awkward fit on a normal monitor. And though I don't like to judge, you'd have to be a special kind of degenerate to leave up cartoon smut as your phone background when out in public.
 

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As expected, the Rhonda material from stream ended up as our monthly "please don't unsubscribe guyz" wallpaper. Are these supposed to be phone wallpapers, though? The dimensions are for 1080p, but unless you leave a second screen permanently on portrait mode for comics and hentai work documents it'd make for an awkward fit on a normal monitor. And though I don't like to judge, you'd have to be a special kind of degenerate to leave up cartoon smut as your phone background when out in public.
We've seen that resolution before with some of Jenny's images. I'd guess these are supposed to be cutscenes/pictures, which will be sent to MC's phone in the game.

Edit: The number of patrons who actually use these images as "wallpapers" is probably close to 0% - no matter if it's on PC or on mobile. At least I'd be surprised if anybody is actually giving DC aditional money just to get these.
 
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dkatryl

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I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.
I mean, i think DC's output vs compensation has been laughably skewed in the wrong direction like most people, but some of these suggestions last page or two?

Dafuq?

Setting aside that these suggestions are being made by people already not supporting him, but how would that logistically work better than simply cancelling support?

"Here's a donation, im gonna put it in this digital pot via a payment service, now dance monkey, or else im gonna go use this imaginary infrastructure through which i'll deny payment, an option that the payment service will love to make so that you can cancel payment which means they dont get their commission?"

Good luck with that.
 
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Count Morado

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yes and we both know he owns it all and in 4 years there was basically no progress he was making and remaking constantly for absolutely no reason the "main story" with all that money he could have already hired 50000 coders he could have spent money to boost the progress people are paying him for that reason not to go every other month on a vacation for 2 weeks not for him to buy houses work on the game for 1 hour at most a day cause on the streams you can clearly see that there is no progress he is constantly speaking to the same lonely losers who have absolutely nothing better to do then simp for him he is not working at all and you know it too, its not the skill that he cant manage it, he doesnt want to he has absolutely no incentive, he is not even doing 2 hours streams if by any chance the stream is 2 hours long he did mostly speak to chat do dumb quizzes and scribbles but not do the work needed, he isnt streaming for 5 days now , he takes off almost every monday and then another day of the week changes, he gives people dumb excuses he could have avoided or done the stream later he choose the time of streams but the after 45 minutes of goofing he just randomly says he "needs to go cause the kids" or some other bullshit that anyone else could have done he has a big family we know that too he can ask for help but he rather obviously skips streams or abandon them halfway, and yes we all know that you are gonna remove this comment AGAIN like every other that states FACTS
I don't have the power to remove any comment. And that's the fact, jack.

"in 4 years there was basically no progress" is not a fact. The main story was wrapped up, Eve's story was rounded out, Consuela's story was created, and more. And then the 2 years+ on the Tech update and release progress hit the wall outside of pre-tech updates.
You can't hire 50,000 coders on the subscription money they get. So, you stated another non-fact.
He doesn't go on vacation every other month. That's another non-fact.
"He isn't streaming for 5 days now" Is not a fact -- Streamed today. Streamed Friday, Streamed Thursday. Streamed Wednesday, Streamed last Tuesday.
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You know what, I'm going to stop there.
I honestly think there should be a monthly voting system where patrons can vote and if certain goals are not meat = no money, and based on a super majority vote so 2/3 of the patrons, so these fucks can get create shit on a decent pace and not abuse the f system. . he is ranking in 60 k a month at a snails pace progress.
There's a voting system already in place. If patreons aren't satisfied, they can vote with their wallet by terminating their subscription. So, that 60k tells you what they voted for. If you dont' like it, that's fine. Bitching about what a developer makes here and the like is farting in the wind. We are here to play games for free - without paying for them in any way, shape, or form. Bitching about others doing so (even when it's not the case - such as here since the game is available to everyone for free from the developer) is moot at best, hypocrisy at worst.
This game is dead lol. Imagine being this guy (darkcookie) and just cashing in monthly on those patreon suckers. Lol. I would if I could. I'm going to predict this: within 1-5 years this guy will be like "I'm not gonna continue this game and sorry for everybody but I want to focus on my personal life" saying that he will have cashed, crashed and fully made bank making a freakin' porn game. I like him for his sketchyness. however be real. drop the support, fuck this guy and move on with your life. Go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.
Few people here subscribe. The great majority of us are on this site BECAUSE we won't pay a penny. Half your entire post is moot. Follow your own advice: go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.
 

MurkyTurtle

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I don't have the power to remove any comment. And that's the fact, jack.

"in 4 years there was basically no progress" is not a fact. The main story was wrapped up, Eve's story was rounded out, Consuela's story was created, and more. And then the 2 years+ on the Tech update and release progress hit the wall outside of pre-tech updates.
You can't hire 50,000 coders on the subscription money they get. So, you stated another non-fact.
He doesn't go on vacation every other month. That's another non-fact.
"He isn't streaming for 5 days now" Is not a fact -- Streamed today. Streamed Friday, Streamed Thursday. Streamed Wednesday, Streamed last Tuesday.
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Looks like no monday streamm
You know what, I'm going to stop there.
There's a voting system already in place. If patreons aren't satisfied, they can vote with their wallet by terminating their subscription. So, that 60k tells you what they voted for. If you dont' like it, that's fine. Bitching about what a developer makes here and the like is farting in the wind. We are here to play games for free - without paying for them in any way, shape, or form. Bitching about others doing so (even when it's not the case - such as here since the game is available to everyone for free from the developer) is moot at best, hypocrisy at worst.
Few people here subscribe. The great majority of us are on this site BECAUSE we won't pay a penny. Half your entire post is moot. Follow your own advice: go outdoors, bang some real bitches and forget about this heap of shit you ever wasted your time on.
Count Morado every day be like

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Gotta pick your battles, man. If it takes you longer than 10 minutes to work out a post, I recommend taking a walk instead.
 

deathyface

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I stopped supporting DC quite some time ago. I have little doubt he'll eventually finish the game but spending over a year now (longer I think) on the tech update is utter insanity not to mention unnecessary. The game should've been content complete before beginning this. I mean I subbed years ago to DC for nearly 2 years in the hopes oF Judith and Eve content, eventually got the Eve content but after god knows how many years still nothing for Judith.


Amazing game that immediately went downhill the moment the patreon changes came into place. Everything slowed down after that, I know it wasn't the cause but it was the timing for sure. Genuinely hope I'll be able to come back to this in a couple years and enjoy a feature and content complete game but I have severe doubts.

Ultimately the money being made in relation to the content being produced is utter insanity, while I understand he's not actually getting 60k a month after taxes and paying staff he's still making a significant amount of money producing effectively 0 results for those paying him. I've defended DC a lot in the past but can't really do it now. Theres symptoms of burnout there I'm sure but there is 100% an element of prolonging development for increased profit.
 

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Cool man, but a simple question: what about the game when it comes out? Backgrounds and wallpapers always come out, but the game... ten thousand years from now, right?! Great, great!
 

seniorboop

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"Damn, what was that one 2D game I played a few years ago?.... Summertime Saga. That's right, I wonder how that's been going."

you just cant read with understanding dude :D he doesnt stream 5 days in a week he streams 3 at most in the last months ....dude consuela was literally 4 years ago do you have a concept of time even ???? and it was not even a full story it was just a christmass half update he made in TWO MONTHS, but still it had more content than the things he did put out in the last 4 years he did constantly remake the main story 3 times he did do the artwork story and everything around it and 3 times he did remake the previous content that he worked on for 6-8 months then he put out this garbage tech update that he did already 2-3 times too that he change the way things worked the art was done or expanded the ratio cause of the mobile users and every time he said it is going to help the process to make updates come out faster, but they were every time slower and slower .... all of those 20 minute gameplay scenes made were mid at best most of the art didnt show anything was from a garbage point of view and looked horrible .... dude got to 80% in a year and couple months then for another year and couple months made 2 % progress .... and no people cant vote at all cause most of them are no brain pepegas just like you who are simping for no reason and having absolutely no clue about things that are going on for years now .... you are constantly saying the same no brain statements over and over you are a bot dude a paid bot probably thats were the subscription money goes,as I said before if it doesnt matter that we state facts here that you obviously dont like to hear, then why dont you let everyone do their thing and shut the fuck up ??? if people dont know or refuse to acknowledge things, people who are playing this game since the beginning that started almost 10 years ago even before patreon are going to tell them these things so they actually start putting their money to use where there is actually progress made but doesnt has enought support , cause those are the people that actually know what are they talking about and unlike you who just simply copy paste the same sentences over and over ..... there are still people who dont know when this whole tech update started and are asking the same questions and dont realize that there wont be and update for another 2 years at least cause DC is milking this whole thing .... I am pretty sure you have 0 concept about money cause yes in 4 years and with all the money that he did ALREADY MILKED before 10 YEARS almost as I said before he had enough money to hire any amount of coders.... The game was NOT free for any person that spent any amount of money to SUPPORT HIM so that he can use the money for MAKING THE GAME not going on vacations .... you clearly have absolutely no clue what he is constantly doing or refuse to acknowledge the truth and lie intentionally, you are a fake and a fraud most likely just like he is, money is not the only currency that people are putting in this, its their TIME TOO and thats priceless so dont you dare tell people what to do or think, and you cant read I never said go out, what are you on ?!?!?! people are waiting for years without anything in return, stop harassing people no one asked for your opinions keep them to yourself and dont react if they didnt quote you, and its absolutely funny that you mention to people their time and what are they doing with it here, when you are 24/7 simping for DC and harassing everyone with facts or who has a bad opinion about him or how are things done, BTW next time include the last 30 days not just one week cause you just needed to click a single thing to view it and show everyone who doesnt know how much streams he skipped View attachment 2945045 View attachment 2945047
 

dkatryl

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We've seen endless posts ranting about DC's lack of progress despite the vast income he is making, but they usually have the same thing in common:

They arent just posting why they stopped funding DC (or why they won't start), but are going that extra step and trying to get those that *are* funding DC to stop as well.

But of course, this is being done on a pirate forum, so... not sure who they expect their target audience to be on here. The handful of posters actively defending the dev? :unsure:

So, since we hear plenty from the group that wants everyone to stop supporting DC, i'm curious to hear from those that *do* support DC *and* use this site:

What value do you feel you get for supporting a game that hasnt updated in such a long time, knowing the game is 1) free to download for everyone, and 2) all important patreon stuff will be leaked here anyways?
 

mamajoe321321

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It's pretty simple to figure out who's got a good grasp of development and who's just frustrated because they can't fap.

The key is spotting those who can actually write at least a f***** decent paragraph.
yes you clearly are delusional right noted :)
 

j4yj4m

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What value do you feel you get for supporting a game that hasnt updated in such a long time, knowing the game is 1) free to download for everyone, and 2) all important patreon stuff will be leaked here anyways?
I'm among those who stopped paying a long time ago, but in general there seem to be quite a few options.

- There'll be people who recently discovered the game, have played it and feel that their experience is worth a few bucks.
- There'll be those who like DC's streams and who may want access to his alltime stream archive and do give money because of that.
- There'll be some who pay because of the discord perks.
- There'll be those (especially in NA and western/central Europe) who don't really care about small amounts of money, because it's totally neglectable for them. As such they are patient.
- There'll be some who rather pay $1 for the game instead of bothering with 3rd party platforms and leaks.
- There'll be some who pledge without having any idea what they are doing (those won't show up here either, though).

As you say, there's basically no real downside in not paying DC.

As such I don't really buy that narrative that there are ~30.000 people who are being duped. If someone feels he doesn't get his money's worth, there's nothing easier than stopping. It's certainly way more impactful (and way less effort) than ranting over here. The important thing is to stop before you feel that you've paid too much, then you won't have to regret anything afterwards...
 

j4yj4m

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everyone can do what they want, but my problem is with the lying delusional simps who are constantly actively defending and lie for someone like DC, while ignoring the facts that are publicly available, on patreon he has several goals and they were that he WILL GET MORE ARTIST,CODERS ETC. and he didnt do any of that he is lacking in the stream department too,these simps are constantly mass reporting everyone that has any criticism and remove their comments, or refuse to comment on the irrefutable facts and then cherry pick something and harass the commenters
He hired the people he said he would hire and he's keeping that level. So I'm not sure where you are getting the idea, that he'd not. And no, he never promised to hire another artist, while he did hire people who are doing the animations for him.

Then again, that was like 4-5 years ago. Do you seriously think there's anybody left who gave money to DC back then because he thought (for no reason) DC would certainly hire 5 new coders and 3 new artists and who is still giving money to DC now waiting for it to happen? I mean, there are stupid people out there but that's just another level of being slow.
 
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it's not because back then he said it would take as much time as a regular update so 3-4 months. if he was being honest nobody would have voted for the tech update knowing it would take years with no end in sight. i also don't buy that you can miscalculate the scope of the project by years no matter how shitty of a project manager you are
If this guy used all that patreon money on coders, maybe we wouldn't be waiting for new updates for so long. But honestly, I can't financially support someone who strings along their patrons.
 
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