Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[BorsDeGanis]

The thing that annoys me about this dev is that they are making well over 1 million a year in patreon donations. With that kind of capital they could fund a small team of people to have this tech update done in a year and focus completely on content updates every few months.

They are being greedy. I really don't think there is more of an explanation than that. This game isn't big enough for three plus years of development on a "tech upgrade" to make any sense. Not if you have competent people working for you. They don't want to fund their terrible idea though so the product is going to stagnate for half a decade.

Just completely mismanaged all around.

Yes, the game actually regressed. It seems that they lost an hard disk with a lot of data so they had to redo again a lot of work .

I rest my case.

 

[Cixxi]

Like many games, let's support more the community, the mods and the fan arts than the creator who took time to upgrade their game.

 

[Count Morado]

The thing that annoys me about this dev is that they are making well over 1 million a year in patreon donations. With that kind of capital they could fund a small team of people to have this tech update done in a year and focus completely on content updates every few months.

They are being greedy. I really don't think there is more of an explanation than that. This game isn't big enough for three plus years of development on a "tech upgrade" to make any sense. Not if you have competent people working for you. They don't want to fund their terrible idea though so the product is going to stagnate for half a decade.

Just completely mismanaged all around.



I rest my case.

They are not making well over $1 million a year in patreon donations. They are making bank, yes, bringing in about $720,000 in the past 12 months.

They have a dev team of the artist (DC), a few art posers, a coder, a writer, as well as a couple of support staff - its around 10-12 on the team (give or take).

The game has nearly 20k images and a couple of hundred thousand lines of code and dialogue (24mb - over 1 million words. To compare, the average novel is between 75,000-125,000 words -- All 7 Harry Potter books have fewer words than the code/dialogue/script of Summertime Saga).

Finally, yes - DC is a terrible project manager. Also, one of the reasons he left corporate game design so long ago was because he hated being managed by others and dealing with corporate deadlines.

 

[Deleted member 6777663]

They are not making well over $1 million a year in patreon donations. They are making bank, yes, bringing in about $720,000 in the past 12 months.

They have a dev team of the artist (DC), a few art posers, a coder, a writer, as well as a couple of support staff - its around 10-12 on the team (give or take).

The game has nearly 20k images and a couple of hundred thousand lines of code and dialogue (24mb - over 1 million words. To compare, the average novel is between 75,000-125,000 words -- All 7 Harry Potter books have fewer words than the code/dialogue/script of Summertime Saga).

Finally, yes - DC is a terrible project manager. Also, one of the reasons he left corporate game design so long ago was because he hated being managed by others and dealing with corporate deadlines.

He can take all the time he needs, but no one is obligated to give a shit when a game, a visual novel, started in 2016 takes 7 years of development.

This is not a ten year game (you posted elsewhere he has enough content to extend development up to 2027), it's just not. No amount of defense of the devs will convince me the amount of work put into this game justifies 7+ years.

You literally cannot convince me it takes a team of 10-12 people 7+ years to make 1 visual novel without either (or both)
1. extreme incompetence on the management side
2. apathy for actually finishing the project because of the amount of money they're making.

 

[Senigata]

He can take all the time he needs, but no one is obligated to give a shit when a game, a visual novel, started in 2016 takes 7 years of development.

This is not a ten year game (you posted elsewhere he has enough content to extend development up to 2027), it's just not. No amount of defense of the devs will convince me the amount of work put into this game justifies 7+ years.

You literally cannot convince me it takes a team of 10-12 people 7+ years to make 1 visual novel without either (or both)
1. extreme incompetence on the management side
2. apathy for actually finishing the project because of the amount of money they're making.

I mean, I agree, no one is obligated to give a shit. But not giving a shit usually means also not spending half the time complaining about the game or development. That's more likely giving too much of a shit to the point it makes one angry. So I'd say we have more than enough here who give a shit.

 

[H3S0Y4M]

This need NTR.

 

[H3S0Y4M]

I want to see some family NTR.

 

[dkatryl]

I want to see some family NTR.

How will that work? Jenny bangs Debbie?

 

[TGafy]

This need NTR.

Closest you'll get is when you have to choose in Erik's route. You won't see any scenes, but it's implied. Enjoy!

 

[Senigata]

I want to see some family NTR.

Jenny is so much of a bitch, she even turns off fat bastards and NTRguys, can ya believe that?

 

[Deleted member 5002149]

Jenny is so much of a bitch, she even turns off fat bastards and NTRguys, can ya believe that?

yeah idc i still wanna hit it

 

[Deleted member 6777663]

I mean, I agree, no one is obligated to give a shit. But not giving a shit usually means also not spending half the time complaining about the game or development. That's more likely giving too much of a shit to the point it makes one angry. So I'd say we have more than enough here who give a shit.

yes, how dare I voice my criticism of a bad dev jerking around his supporters for almost ten years. When I say no one is obligated to give a shit, I mean no one is obligated to give a shit how hard it is to develop or why, hence why I made a reply to that specific comment. After 7 years it's ludicrous.

You want to keep paying him for this bullshit? fuckin' be my guest lol

 

[Danny2465]

Damn, this was the game that brought me to F95, I remembered it and decided to check back in on its updates. Shame it barely progressed from when I last played. Surprised it doesn't have an abandoned tag; maybe the developer had stuff happen IRL, or just got greedy or lazy, idk. I hope it picks back up because I did like it from what I remember.

 

[armopbr]

What do you want to know? Before you ask, see #9-#14 of my FAQ here: #73,922

Also, the update is still months and months away.

If the FAQ and the above timeline doesn't answer your question(s) - ask away.

Years away my dude. I just recommend to anyone to just forget about this game for 1-2 years. Checking it 3 months later wont change anything because this game development is akin to a snail. We dont know if DC is actually delaying it somewhat to milk more money or it actually take that long to make it. You be the judge.

 

[Count Morado]

You want to keep paying him for this bullshit? fuckin' be my guest lol

No more than 5% of all the people on F95 are patreon subscribers to any adult game developer -- it's probably closer to 1%. 6+ million people with accounts on F95 come here to download for the specific purpose of NOT paying anyone anything. Your argument is moot and ridiculous.

On top of that, over 100 million downloads of the game have been from people playing for free across multiple sites- not the 30k subscribers on DC's patreon. Finally, the game is free for everyone - no one has to or needs to pay a dime to play this game directly from the developer, directly. No one.

Unlike many other adult game developers, DC doesn't paywall his game. He gives his subscribers other perks for their support - which he provides as promised to them. Although I have never subscribed to anyone on any of the platforms, I don't see why people feel the need to deride those who choose to. Oh wait, I do see why, it makes them feel superior in their dreary, meaningless lives.

I just recommend to anyone to just forget about this game for 1-2 years.

I recommend everyone forget the game if all they are going to do is whine about "how long the developer is taking." Go play one of the other 16,000+ games available through F95 downloads. Or go play them all - and once you've played all the others, and only then, 40-odd years later, maybe check on this title.

 

[BigLoada]

This need NTR.

Check out the SPH mod.

 

[Mr_Mister]

No more than 5% of all the people on F95 are patreon subscribers to any adult game developer -- it's probably closer to 1%. 6+ million people with accounts on F95 come here to download for the specific purpose of NOT paying anyone anything. Your argument is moot and ridiculous.

On top of that, over 100 million downloads of the game have been from people playing for free across multiple sites- not the 30k subscribers on DC's patreon. Finally, the game is free for everyone - no one has to or needs to pay a dime to play this game directly from the developer, directly. No one.

Unlike many other adult game developers, DC doesn't paywall his game. He gives his subscribers other perks for their support - which he provides as promised to them. Although I have never subscribed to anyone on any of the platforms, I don't see why people feel the need to deride those who choose to. Oh wait, I do see why, it makes them feel superior in their dreary, meaningless lives.
I recommend everyone forget the game if all they are going to do is whine about "how long the developer is taking." Go play one of the other 16,000+ games available through F95 downloads. Or go play them all - and once you've played all the others, and only then, 40-odd years later, maybe check on this title.

 

[Not_1_Fan]

Can anyone tell is there a date for next update? What is the progress so far?

 

[Count Morado]

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Please. If you don't understand, feel free to reach out to me in DM or in the off topic thread. Because...

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Can anyone tell is there a date for next update? What is the progress so far?

No, no one can. If you skim over the past couple pages, see post #74,144, or go to

You must be registered to see the links

- you'd have your answers.

 

[Mandragoron]

He can take all the time he needs, but no one is obligated to give a shit when a game, a visual novel, started in 2016 takes 7 years of development.

This is not a ten year game (you posted elsewhere he has enough content to extend development up to 2027), it's just not. No amount of defense of the devs will convince me the amount of work put into this game justifies 7+ years.

You literally cannot convince me it takes a team of 10-12 people 7+ years to make 1 visual novel without either (or both)
1. extreme incompetence on the management side
2. apathy for actually finishing the project because of the amount of money they're making.

I think its quit clear that this 10-12 people who are "working" on this game have Workload like this: "you xy do this task this week and will get paid 100 dollar for that, ok chef!" works 2 hours in the week done...
No one is working fulltime there not even half time.... maybe the coder because its completly crazy to just have 1 coder for such a project.
DC himself streams for 1 1,5 hours around and i think thats it for his work on that day And he is sick all the time and can't stream...