exirock

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So let me get this right, they released an update with no new content sorta say and yet removed content, so why even release a version like this if the suppose content only dropping in january if not delayed, it makes no sense, this really shows the level of professionalism and leadership of this team.
 

Ataman87

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So let me get this right, they released an update with no new content sorta say and yet removed content, so why even release a version like this if the suppose content only dropping in january if not delayed, it makes no sense, this really shows the level of professionalism and leadership of this team.
Because he needs to release something that's why. To show he is "working" on the game.
 

prk222111

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people will never open their eyes, that's how blind people are, this man doesn't deserve any support, he keep literally shitting and spiting in the face of people, and everybody just smiles, this is sad that many creators doesn't get much support and creating fuckin masterpiece games, meanwhile this man jerking off, do almost nothing, some streams to show that he's working a lot, meanwhile he doesn't give a fuck and milking as much as he can to the end, and what's best, he planning 3 more games, this is amazing lmao
 

randommal3

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These looks new.
Debbie's Route seems like it's being Reset when i use my older Save.
Remind me again how to get that Locked Scene ?
I also couldn't ask her for the Lotion Scene.
Nevermind, i found it.
I have to Replay the Whole Game again to discover it.
It was just boob shot but most of the Dialogues are Changed too it seems.
 

obibobi

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I certainly do have empathy for scam victims. What I have no empathy for is a) people whining about a game they probably haven't paid anything for (please note the usage of the word "probably") and b) when said whiners have shown zero empathy for scam victims.

Now for something for you to try: comprehend that not every question or comment on the internet is an attack against yourself.
A lot of people don't get that when you see people doing something you think is not in their best interest, calling them idiots or other names is not the best method to get them around to your way of thinking, you yourself are an idiot and flying off the handle emotionally. You get people around to your way of thinking by being diplomatic.

I also think people greatly overestimate how many people support this greedy bastard out of loyalty, sure there are some, but the vast majority would fall into people who played this, went through it during it's peak and supported, and haven't gotten around to cancelling, many have probably forgotten.

There is a reason so many companies push for subscription, almost everyone has some subscription that they would cancel right now if it was simply a matter of willing it including myself, subscriptions happen out of mind.
 

Runsquats

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Mar 9, 2018
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What's the new Tech in the Tech update was is serialization the game saves were good in versions ? Also the game engine is still renpy. i thought he be switching to godot for smoother gameplay.
 
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Cumfucius

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So let me get this right, they released an update with no new content sorta say and yet removed content, so why even release a version like this if the suppose content only dropping in january if not delayed, it makes no sense, this really shows the level of professionalism and leadership of this team.
After he got abandonned tag, many subs gone, so he released no content updated, simply for not getting that tag
 

Gambatei

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I understand this game was pretty much done a long time ago, one of the best I ever played
I remember spending hours in the past playing Akabur games and then I found summertime saga and I was blowed away
I named the characters based on my girlfriend's family and it was amazing
It is still going I see
I always felt like adding more scenes with the mom and the sis would be nice
But I also liked the milfs and girlfriends options that he added

I think if the dev wants to continue his game for eternity, he is on his right
But you are in your every right to cancel a subscription if you think it is no longer worthy
You can even express your frustation

But getting mad that others are still paying for it only because you feel it is no longer worthy seems stupid
For whatever reason they are still paying, you want to say game is not going well lately, say it, you want to say you are not going to support it anymore, say it, but continuing attacking the dev for not doing what YOU want and others for not minding it as you do, seems stupid
 

Count Morado

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If the art is ready then why not release it? Pardon my ignorance friend im only trying to understand
There is posing and coding and other aspects involved with creating a VN/game to have the art in the game. While there is art completed, the other parts might not.
 
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Notimportante_

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Thanks for your reply:

Yeah, alright, 10 people.
Now, they have 1,5,10 and 20$ stuff. So, without cuts, they're probably making AT LEAST 60k/month.Now we can "add" all this stuff you mentioned, and even with this it's safe to say they have at least 30k/month clean. Probably more, but fine, 30k it is.
So, each fella getting his fare share of... 36k/year. Yeah, it's not that much, at least for US and EU, but still good enough.
And, as you said, it's a team of 10 PEOPLE. TEN, CARL! And even if this is not their full time job (but should be really close), they literally spend last 3-4 months for a few QoL fixes, few bugfixes, very few new arts and few !restored! events. So... practically almost nothing really new. 10 people. 36+k/year. Each. And we have this.
Alright, I see we’re going full detective mode here. You’ve got spreadsheets out, calculators smoking, and a burning desire to crack the mystery of this dev team’s productivity. Respect the hustle, but let’s unpack this ?unexpected chess move? from you about those probably-not-made-up numbers from the last guy and let’s work with those Bill Gates sized projections.

First off, yeah, $30k/month net sounds like a lot when you say it out loud. But divide that across 10 people, throw in taxes, operating costs, and other expenses, and suddenly it’s not looking so huge. Sure, let’s say each dev is pulling in about $36k/year, but let’s not pretend they’re Scrooge McDuck diving into a vault of Patreon cash. This is indie dev life, not Silicon Valley riches. If they’re feeling fancy, maybe they splurge on a trip to IKEA once a year.

Now, onto the “nothing really new” argument. I get it—you’re staring at the Patreon numbers and expecting a steady stream of groundbreaking updates. But creative work doesn’t scale like an assembly line. You don’t get 10 people = 10 times the output. It’s more like 10 people = 10 times the coordination headaches. QoL fixes and restored events might not be the spicy new content you’re craving, but they’re laying the groundwork. Would you rather have a shiny new feature that crashes your game randomly, with a Crime and Punishment book-long changelog that’s an absolute nothing burger, like in School Game, or a stable game that actually runs?

Yeah, they’re making enough to live on, but it’s not the ridiculous payday you’re imagining. They’re able to eat ramen with coffee every day—true luxury. Patience is key, my dudeyou shouted Carl like you were ready to start wrestling with me. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither was your beloved Waifu City. It's Summertime "Saga" not long story short
 
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DimitarM12

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remember waiting 3/4 months for an update, but it was worth the wait, playing hours to get the content... Now waiting years for an update with 0 content... u guys are really cows for DC, he is just milking you and you continue to give him what he wants.

If every subscriber show respect for themselves and cancel it at least a month he will see that he must do something, but since you are okay with this, he will keep doing this kind of shi* .
 

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Alright, I see we’re going full detective mode here. You’ve got spreadsheets out, calculators smoking, and a burning desire to crack the mystery of this dev team’s productivity. Respect the hustle, but let’s unpack this ?unexpected chess move? from you about those probably-not-made-up numbers from the last guy and let’s work with those Bill Gates sized.

First off, yeah, $30k/month net sounds like a lot when you say it out loud. But divide that across 10 people, throw in taxes, operating costs, and other expenses, and suddenly it’s not looking so huge. Sure, let’s say each dev is pulling in about $36k/year, but let’s not pretend they’re Scrooge McDuck diving into a vault of Patreon cash. This is indie dev life, not Silicon Valley riches. If they’re feeling fancy, maybe they splurge on a trip to IKEA once a year.

Now, onto the “nothing really new” argument. I get it—you’re staring at the Patreon numbers and expecting a steady stream of groundbreaking updates. But creative work doesn’t scale like an assembly line. You don’t get 10 people = 10 times the output. It’s more like 10 people = 10 times the coordination headaches. QoL fixes and restored events might not be the spicy new content you’re craving, but they’re laying the groundwork. Would you rather have a shiny new feature that crashes your game randomly, with a Crime and Punishment book-long changelog that’s an absolute nothing burger, like in School Game, or a stable game that actually runs?

Yeah, they’re making enough to live on, but it’s not the ridiculous payday you’re imagining. They’re able to eat ramen with coffee every day—true luxury. Patience is key, my dudeyou shouted Carl like you were ready to start wrestling with me. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither was your beloved Waifu City. It's Summertime "Saga" not long story short
I don't know trough how many mental hoops you have to jump to justify the amount of work that has been delivered in their time span.

This isn't rocket science it's a renpy game. And most of the assets have been directly ported from the old game with some expansions here and there.

I'm not going to argue whether they are rolling in cash or are living on ramen an coffee like you said because for me that's irrelevant. I'm looking at the amount of time they had and what's being delivered and it's so sub par that they are either stringing people along/scamming or they are completely incompetent.

It's either the one or the other take your pick.
 

PayneToTheMax

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Is scam the right word to use? I don't know, but it sure does feel shady as fuck.
A hustle. A pretty good one at that. Hence why I always say 'you gotta respect the hustle' since we're technically no better, being pirates and all. Feels kinda hollow to do any moral grandstanding from the pov of one criminal to another (pirating is, after all, still a crime).
 
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