Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

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From the last stream

 

[Mikato88]

Have to use cheats?
Old version console commands not working and 00console.rpyc is not readable format.

 

[32BitShifter]

Dude. People do not need this.

DC includes a Cookie Jar unlocker by default in (nearly) all versions of Summertime Saga.

If you had searched the thread, you probably would have found this:

Or this...

It is literally even fewer steps to do it this way, and isn't nested behind a non-OP FAQ answer. Cross-site, hundreds of Renpy games this is what people are looking for, and even invokes the same mechanism. Worse user experience is actually doing it incorrectly.

 

[Mikato88]

What happened to the game? No scenes with Roxy and many other scenes, wtf?

 

[DenbaJba]

wow this game is still moving? was so long ago when first try it, gonna check the latest

Kinda moving.

 

[Rex72]

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It is apparently from community pressure who wanted to see "what DC was doing" that they kept saying just release something... that DC decided after a year of simply monthly reports that they would release what they had to that point of the tech update and release a new preview about every two months until the tech update was completed.

So it was the supporters, the fans, the community who wanted to see what was going on that was a part of the motivation to release the preview of the tech update.

Request a refund... oh wait.

Also... I would recommend you read what George Carlin

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said - and not some kneejerk meme for your PFP.

Patreons deserve refunds, this V21 is not really the same game anymore. A completed V20.x with all "wip´s" completed is what I was referring to. Retroactive changes that break saves is almost always the first step to a failed/dying game.

 

[Temp79325783985987]

I am still waiting on Judith getting fucked in the end. That's all I want.

Fun fact, Judith's only H scene was released closer in time to the original release of Skyrim than to the present day.

 

[dplace305]

If I want to play more of the story, should i play v20 or v21?

 

[Sukme]

If I want to play more of the story, should i play v20 or v21?

20, most of the old content has been removed and is slowly being folded back in.

 

[dplace305]

20, most of the old content has been removed and is slowly being folded back in.

has kompas given any indication when the new version is going to be caught up to the old?

 

[Sukme]

has kompas given any indication when the new version is going to be caught up to the old?

Not directly but at the stated schedule of 2 (ish) months per update (figuring the amount that's re-introduced each up date), it's going to take years to get back to the same point.

 

[MisterMeh]

Not directly but at the stated schedule of 2 (ish) months per update (figuring the amount that's re-introduced each up date), it's going to take years to get back to the same point.

The content is still there, just not reintegrated back into the game and this is a HUGE issue that makes this game look like they've almost gone back to the start.

The main story that involves Tony and Maria is on the newer artwork and rig, and that's ready to be put back in. The entire story with Eve, Grace and Odette is ready to be put back in. The vast majority of Roxxy's story with Missy, Becca and Tina is ready to be put back in. Once Debbie is completed, the interactions with the Russian mob in that section of the story is ready to be readded. Little bits and pieces of story integration are holding up entire sections of the game, while another coder is needed to readd the stuff that's ready to go, but isn't being done because Strayerror is working on finishing Debbie.

 

[dplace305]

The content is still there, just not reintegrated back into the game and this is a HUGE issue that makes this game look like they've almost gone back to the start.

The main story that involves Tony and Maria is on the newer artwork and rig, and that's ready to be put back in. The entire story with Eve, Grace and Odette is ready to be put back in. The vast majority of Roxxy's story with Missy, Becca and Tina is ready to be put back in. Once Debbie is completed, the interactions with the Russian mob in that section of the story is ready to be readded. Little bits and pieces of story integration are holding up entire sections of the game, while another coder is needed to readd the stuff that's ready to go, but isn't being done because Strayerror is working on finishing Debbie.

Do you think the delay is because the devs are trying to milk patreon money, or is legitimate progress being made in spite of what seems like an issue that shouldn't be a problem?

I don't know much about coding, but i know enough to know that some things that may seem like an insignificant bug that should be easily fixed can be a lot more complex that what it looks like on the surface.

Also, there is no indication that Strayerror won't mass add all the stuff that's ready to roll once the Debbie story is finished, to be fair there is no indication that it will be mass added. Plus, to my understanding, the Debbie story is the most popular/wanted story line. I know that I really want to see the end of Debbie and play through all her content.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Patreons deserve refunds, this V21 is not really the same game anymore. A completed V20.x with all "wip´s" completed is what I was referring to. Retroactive changes that break saves is almost always the first step to a failed/dying game.

So take it up with Patreon's customer support?

 

[MisterMeh]

Do you think the delay is because the devs are trying to milk patreon money, or is legitimate progress being made in spite of what seems like an issue that shouldn't be a problem?

I don't know much about coding, but i know enough to know that some things that may seem like an insignificant bug that should be easily fixed can be a lot more complex that what it looks like on the surface.

Also, there is no indication that Strayerror won't mass add all the stuff that's ready to roll once the Debbie story is finished, to be fair there is no indication that it will be mass added. Plus, to my understanding, the Debbie story is the most popular/wanted story line. I know that I really want to see the end of Debbie and play through all her content.

There's progress being made but there's not a single person here that'll disagree that the project was mismanaged, because Dark Cookie is figuring it all out as he's going along. Whenever DC "finishes" something, either he, Captain Sploosh or Stray error get a new idea, and they go back and implement them into the story. When they started doing that, they realized that Dogeeks coding was a mess. An example of that was something along the lines of Dogeek naming files "Booger Aids" that gave no indication of what it was.

So now you have them adding and expanding onto the original story with new animations and cutscenes, while reworking the entire code to not only straighten everything out, but to make sure that the new stuff they're adding and updating, works with older content, but still looks comparable art wise. It's a mess to be sure, but this is what happens when you don't have a solid plan, or change said plan from the start. Another example is the aspect ratio that required every single background to be reworked and every single character had to be repositioned on the screen. Some of the characters like Jenny have files in the thousand plus range, with the main character dwarfing that.

It's also important to remember that this was never intended to be an actual game, and that DC was just playing around to see if he could make anything worthwhile, while learning RenPy on his own.

It genuinely sucks that the game is in the state it's in, but there's nothing anyone can do about it.

 

[dplace305]

There's progress being made but there's not a single person here that'll disagree that the project was mismanaged, because Dark Cookie is figuring it all out as he's going along. Whenever DC "finishes" something, either he, Captain Sploosh or Stray error get a new idea, and they go back and implement them into the story. When they started doing that, they realized that Dogeeks coding was a mess. An example of that was something along the lines of Dogeek naming files "Booger Aids" that gave no indication of what it was.

So now you have them adding and expanding onto the original story with new animations and cutscenes, while reworking the entire code to not only straighten everything out, but to make sure that the new stuff they're adding and updating, works with older content, but still looks comparable art wise. It's a mess to be sure, but this is what happens when you don't have a solid plan, or change said plan from the start. Another example is the aspect ratio that required every single background to be reworked and every single character had to be repositioned on the screen. Some of the characters like Jenny have files in the thousand plus range, with the main character dwarfing that.

It's also important to remember that this was never intended to be an actual game, and that DC was just playing around to see if he could make anything worthwhile, while learning RenPy on his own.

It genuinely sucks that the game is in the state it's in, but there's nothing anyone can do about it.

i had no idea about the history behind the development of the game as i just recently started playing it and paying attention. so thanks for essentially bringing me up to date lol.

Is Dogeeks still working on the game as a coder or has he moved onto a different project or been fired from the development of Summertime Saga? Because going by what you've said about his coding habits, it makes me wonder if perhaps making the code an incomprehensible clusterfuck was his way of trying to "enhance job security". So that it was such a pain for anyone else to work on his code that people were forced to keep him on, or else deal with the mess of code he left behind

 

[sucklepuck]

I can’t believe Anon fucking dies in the next update. They even got Debbie and Jenny out here dragging his body into the backyard. R.I.P. Anon.

 

[txe320]

I can’t believe Anon fucking dies in the next update. They even got Debbie and Jenny out here dragging his body into the backyard. R.I.P. Anon.

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MC got an erection for 24h, not enough blood for the rest of his body.

R.I.P. MC, you will be missed by all women in town.

 

[Balddog]

I can’t believe Anon fucking dies in the next update. They even got Debbie and Jenny out here dragging his body into the backyard. R.I.P. Anon.

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Damn. Now there's no point in wasting money on this project. Hope people can get their refund back.

 

[MisterMeh]

i had no idea about the history behind the development of the game as i just recently started playing it and paying attention. so thanks for essentially bringing me up to date lol.

Is Dogeeks still working on the game as a coder or has he moved onto a different project or been fired from the development of Summertime Saga? Because going by what you've said about his coding habits, it makes me wonder if perhaps making the code an incomprehensible clusterfuck was his way of trying to "enhance job security". So that it was such a pain for anyone else to work on his code that people were forced to keep him on, or else deal with the mess of code he left behind

Dogeek was let go by DarkCookie and has been off the dev team for a little while now, and I don't honestly believe he was doing things out of any malice or intentional disregard. The way DarkCookie described it, he was just a little too lax about how things should've been done, and that bit DC in the butt.

From what I recall, Strayerror is the third coder to have worked on this game.