Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[Alfius]

Again your points are moot -- even of modders have said such things.

It doesn't require a whole rebuild from scratch. Spaghetti code can be refactored. Not rewritten from scratch. If there was code that was patchwork from 3 or 4 different devs with varying standards of logic and execution. You look at those lines of code and refactor. Inevitably you will be slowly refactoring all associated code resembling a spiderweb of sorts.

But again -- that is NO REASON to rewrite code from scratch. The point being refactoring code is NOT the same as rebuilding. And there is no reason -- even when modders have said previous builds had garbage codebases to rewrite the entire thing. Good practices lead to refactoring and retooling of existing code -- again, not a wipe from a clean slate kind of mindset.

His team was lazy or DC chose this decision with the intent of being able to milk Patreons even further -- or both.

Sorry as a dev I'm going to disagree with you here.

Depending on how much changes you want to make it is definitely easier to Redo a project from scratch then to re-factor.

Fix something here, causes other things to break, then fixing the things that break causes other side effect. Chasing some unknown bug in code you did not write yourself. And then spending hours and house on trying to think what went on in the other developer's mind when he did this or that, wastes a lot of time.

I have a few years ago agreed to do continue and debug an existing system (Granted it was not written with software I was familiar with at the time). It was a nightmare. If I had re-written the software (Even in the same technology) it would have taken me 3 months of lost time, but bug-fixed thereafter would have been hours instead of days.

Instead I continued on that broken piece of software with infinite bugs for about 5 months until I decided to pass that problem on to someone younger than me, with more energy and optimism and more desperate for money then myself. The owner refused for the application to be re-written as they already paid for the development (Sunken cost)

Seen as this is a project that DC still want to work on for years to come, I can see his rationale for re-writing it.

 

[AstroMJ6969]

Honest questions, because I haven't played v21.0.0 really, at all, except to help people with initial questions and quests when they were stuck.
Is that a screenshot of an animation? Is that screenshot of an animation that is paused?

It's a screenshot of the animation in motion, Its not paused.

 

[AstroMJ6969]

I understand that. I am not questioning that. The person posted a still image and complained about the quality of the art. So I am trying to figure out what their problem is with that image.

If that is from an animation - that screenshot is likely a tween image (for those that don't know, a tween is an image between two other images to give the illusion of motion when they are flipped through, sequentially). If their complaint is the motion blur - they are mistaken in what they may think is low quality (the extra art) that is actually tweening.

If they have another reason for their complaint about low quality - it would be helpful to know what they are pointing out.

That's all.

I am not complaining I'm admiring the game

 

[KnightMarco]

okay, how much content/route on tech update compared to old version? are we nearly there yet?

 

[bogeyparr]

why is there a "multiple penetration " tag. what is that about. thanx

 

[Ataman87]

Is there a way for bouth versions of the game not to share the same saves directroy , because when i play the older version it messes up the save slots of the newer one and vice versa ?

 

[divingmedic]

The time this game end we will all be dead of old age

Some of us are closer than others to that fate. Yes I am including myself in that.

 

[connxianpox]

leave your house and then return?but it still doesn'twork,i don't understand

 

[teebeyone]

this game away update?

 

[CEO of BigNibbasInc.]

judith

This. I've been here since 2016-2017 waiting for Judith content.I realized it'll never come a year into the tech, but it doesn't hurt to read a log every half a year or so and laugh at comments for a bit.

 

[Antonisimo]

No, it's Lamba. And I'd be the first person to tell you paying for this is stupid. But every person paying into it is getting exactly what they deserve, and what they paid for so there's no room to complain. Take it on the chin and stop paying them if you hate it so much.


I'm pretty sure he made no promises. And if he fails them and you don't stop paying him, why would he ever stop? Again, this is exactly what the paying customers deserve and if they're upset, it's on them. I'd never put money towards an unfinished game. Even when it's early access I at least perform the due diligence to make sure the game itself is, technically, finished, and the extra work is side content.



In a world where you're accountable to the people paying you money. We've seen nothing to suggest the team is being cheated out of money so...? It doesn't need to be split evenly for there to be little money on the table at the end of it all.

If it were me, I'd be prioritizing employee retention above all else and ensuring my people are duly compensated for their work because I need that consistency in output and because an employer should always act in their employees best interests. None of us have any idea when this kind of windfall will happen again so it goes without saying that being fair by your employees is important. If it happens again I want that kind of, "No, I'm going back to my old employer" loyalty. This isn't a publicly traded company, so there's no board of investors to make happy. Stiffing your employees / contractors for money is a quick way to ruin the project.


And if you're not getting the transparency you crave.... don't pay the guy? Don't know what else to tell you. I'd love to see what the financials are for his company but he's not obligated to share them.

I totally agree with you. The only way to stop this kind of "games" is to stop paying the patreon. Then they will see that "costumers" are not simping anymore. Even Akabur noticed it when shit hit the fan. I have project i'm working on but i will only upload when its done. (3 part story)
Money is a big motivator for projects to be completed, so its best to show them by not funding any more ---


FYI : Lamba is Lamp in Greek, Lamda is the Greek Letter if you where going for Greek...

 

[happybrother]

So how incomplete is this version again?
Does it finally have the content from the basic game (before rewrite) ?

 

[marvelfreak3000]

And still delaying Debbie pregnancy.......Stay Classy, Dark Cookie

 

[darkstel]

So how incomplete is this version again?
Does it finally have the content from the basic game (before rewrite) ?

repeat the question in four years...minimum

 

[Zerker Supremacy]

This game was cool with incest and hairy patches. I stopped playing long ago, but the drama on this tread makes me want to play again.

 

[BoyHowdy981]

back in the day he would pump out full chapters in 3 to 4 months. now we get 1/8 of a chapter every 2 months. he has been working on debby and jenny for a year now and he isn't even done. they are one chapter..... remember how much content was in the eve and roxxy chapters and they were made in 3 to 4 months each.

also remember all that Rhonda content he was working on over a year ago that still never made it into the game....

 

[Keones]

Wow, the author has released an update, it's been so long since the last update, hopefully the new version already has much more than half of the content from the old version, and it won't be long before we catch up with the original, right?

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Incest Patch for the latest update (WIP 5791) and the Pre-Tech Version (0.20.16)

This is a patch that reverts back the relationship of the characters to how it was before the change in Patreon policy.
For feedback and suggestions, please see this thread I've created.

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Why use this patch? ​

Much more comprehensive list of changes to dialogue. I checked almost every line of dialogue and made sure it flowed correctly. This is not just a simple name change for the characters, but whole blocks of lines are back to their 14.5 version of the game (the last version that has incest). New dialogue written for this tech update also were taken into consideration since DarkCookie is adding new story beats. I'll try to make the dialogue conform to their familial relationship as much as possible. I also modified the art asset to fit the new widescreen resolution of the game, and will continue doing so as needed.

What about other incest patches out there?
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outdated and shouldn't be used. Lots of text bugs and not made for the latest pre-tech version.

is not compatible with my patch. It hasn't been updated in a while and all the changes that patch offers is also included in my patch.

Relation Tweaker Mod is not compatible with my patch. However, I recommend using this one instead if you want to customize the relationship between characters. This patch allows step relations or mixed step/incest relations. It works with the new tech update only.

Relation Tweaker Lewd+ is standalone and should work with any incest patch/mod. It works with the new tech update only.

Naughty Tribute Mod is not an incest patch, but a mod for the pre-tech version (0.20.16). There are some compatibility issues I haven't looked into yet. Someone in this thread uploaded a fix here, and while I haven’t personally tested it, you’re welcome to give it a try.

Installation:​

Pick only one version of the mod. Use the appropriate patch for the version of the game you're using.

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for more info.
- For the Pre-Tech version (0.20.16,) download Pre-Tech 0.20.16.zip
- For the Tech version (WIP 5791), download WIP 5791.zip

Unzip and place the ipatch file inside Summertime Saga's game folder.

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Credits:​

This patch is inspired and modified from the previous uploads that came before it. Special thanks to Scarlet Ashbringer, Sothyr and Xaverion for their previous work on a patch. And to raschi for helping me with some questions on how to develop this patch!

Hi, sorry to ask, but will your mod be updated to the new version?
Thank you

 

[Reese286]

Completion of this hasn't been a goal since at least 2017. There is no plan to complete this any time soon. Not while they enjoy what they do, they have new ideas, and fans want more content.
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Well that is some epic white-knighting right there. Your claim is nonsense... Content you say? There is no new content, that excuse is straight bullshit.

 

[F-3822]

Can anyone upload the titfuck scene and also the part before it where they are making out