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what guide?



busy making that game.



well there's always trial and error aka save sis and save game and try finding those papers before time runs out if doesn't use any kind of wt.
I don't use walkthroughs anyway. I just saw it poking around the script after I finished the game. I was more saying it was a pretty shit game design choice. Why throw a wrench like that into everything for no reason at all? It's just like a big fuck you to the players.
 
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I only use in game walkthroughs. Too big a pain in the ass to switch from game to online/a document. It's also shit game design to make it all but impossible to win without one. That goes way more than double for an adult game, which should only have a bad ending through completely moronic choices. Including minigames in an adult game is also shit design.
 

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There is more to it from what I've seen in the code. As ridiculous as the points deciding who to pick is, it looks like you can be locked into the bad ending at the very ass end of the game if you don't find the papers in the office.
There's two ending branches: one if you manage to save sister's hotel (good endings) and one if you fail and the other hotel guy wins the mayor elections. (bad endings) This hinges largely on being able to expose his dirty laundry, yes, but you can fuck that up in some other ways too, iirc.
 

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I don't use walkthroughs anyway. I just saw it poking around the script after I finished the game. I was more saying it was a pretty shit game design choice. Why throw a wrench like that into everything for no reason at all? It's just like a big fuck you to the players.
well dots isn't only avn maker who makes bad endings possible. wt-mod/pdf is very needed on many avns otherwise player locks itself out of some paths.
 

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I was more saying it was a pretty shit game design choice. Why throw a wrench like that into everything for no reason at all?
Except it's not a "wrench into everything", but a path fork. You get some endings on one path, and some different ones on the other.

You have similar situation in the most recent BaDIK episode for example, where you can successfully retrieve papers which are a big focus of the episode, but you can also fail at this task.
 

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maybe after losing hotel darkhaired sis finds new hobby elsewhere to make living.

edit: like moving together with mc who becomes star lawyer.
 
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Except it's not a "wrench into everything", but a path fork. You get some endings on one path, and some different ones on the other.

You have similar situation in the most recent BaDIK episode for example, where you can successfully retrieve papers which are a big focus of the episode, but you can also fail at this task.
It's not a fork, unless you consider a fork to be a split between good and bad endings. That's all that variable decides.

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It's not a fork, unless you consider a fork to be a split between good and bad endings. That's all that variable decides.
It's not all that's decided. There's obviously some differences in content as well -- you aren't going to see MC and friends celebrating and the bad guy losing his shit on the path where he actually won.
 

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No, there can be multiple good endings, and making it need a walkthrough to get a good ending is REALLY being a shit.
You don't need a walkthrough, though. There's something like 3 places to check in single location and if you fuck up you can always just rollback and pick the option which actually works.

If someone lacks brain capacity for that then they're unlikely to find the walkthrough in OP and download it, either.
 

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You don't need a walkthrough, though. There's something like 3 places to check in single location and if you fuck up you can always just rollback and pick the option which actually works.

If someone lacks brain capacity for that then they're unlikely to find the walkthrough in OP and download it, either.
That still doesn't solve the points problem though. Or the need to go through "perfect" playthroughs to be with someone despite everything the characters have gone through together. They have been using a point system in all of their games and still haven't been able to wrap their heads around it. At some point you'd have to think that maybe it's not something you should try again.

I got locked out of every good ending my first time because of it. I focused only on the cousin and was still unable to get her ending. I actually did use the built-in WT the second time and I swayed from the guide one time, count them, one and was locked out of her path for not having the points.

Unrelated to the points but I also don't know what they were thinking with the writing of the cousin's character in the end of the game. She goes from a shy wall flower to showing off her naked body to her mother and getting fingered in the middle of a restaurant in the span of one date. She's not even the same character by the end of the game and you can't claim it's "character growth" because it's not.
 
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The original ending was bad, but I had already deleted it before it was fixed. I wound up with just the villain's daughter, but did get the "win" ending. I did have to roll back though to get the document.
 

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No, there can be multiple good endings, and making it need a walkthrough to get a good ending is REALLY being a shit.
well can get good ending 1 but not good ending 2.

Unrelated to the points but I also don't know what they were thinking with the writing of the cousin's character in the end of the game. She goes from a shy wall flower to showing off her naked body to her mother and getting fingered in the middle of a restaurant in the span of one date. She's not even the same character by the end of the game and you can't claim it's "character growth" because it's not.
that's on many games, early shy virgin and in the end beast in bed.
 

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That still doesn't solve the points problem though. Or the need to go through "perfect" playthroughs to be with someone despite everything the characters have gone through together. They have been using a point system in all of their games and still haven't been able to wrap their heads around it. At some point you'd have to think that maybe it's not something you should try again.
I agree, the points system is badly used in how it essentially catches the player at 11th hour without any prior indication they're underperforming. Especially the way you're put through finale with every girl bawling her eyes out at the idea of MC leaving, only then for the game to inform the player than no, they don't actually care all that much because not enough points, it's just silly.

Unrelated to the points but I also don't know what they were thinking with the writing of the cousin's character in the end of the game.
Like cxx mentions, this is fairly standard development for "inexperienced" characters in porn games. It is what passes for "development" in them and it's a major draw for certain subset of the playerbase.
 

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points is to make players to play game multiple times to unlock everything.
 

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points is to make players to play game multiple times to unlock everything.
Except it can be all skipped with just being able to put in max points for everyone at the start of Ch.3 so it's nonsensical and well, pointless. If someone wanted to see all the game has, they'd play multiple times on their own and without artificial blocks which don't even play any role in the game itself. If they don't, then forcing them isn't going to improve their experience or think better of the game.
 
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Apr 28, 2024 07:00 pm
Introducing Megan - Friend or Foe?


Hello again to all our supporters.

We’re getting closer to releasing the very first update of our brand new game “Thief of Hearts” and will hopefully be able to share an official release date for you all very soon.

Today, however, we are sharing some images of another character who will feature throughout the story.

Her name is Megan, and she will be introduced at some point during the first update.

The question you will be asking yourself after encountering this stunningly gorgeous woman, is if she is a friend, or foe?

Not every character that you meet in the game will be 100% trustworthy, so it’s up to you to decipher who is working against you, or genuinely trying to help.

You’ll need to use your best instincts and make the right choices at the right time to give you the best chance to progress in the game.

Do you think Megan is the kind of woman that you’ll be able to trust?

Let us know what you think of her in our comments section.

Progress report:

This is a rough idea of where we are with each section of the release:

Writing: 95%

Renders: 80%

Animations: 10%

Coding: 80%

Other: 50% (menu setup, bonus image gallery, credits screens etc)


From now until the game is released, we’ll keep you informed of our progress with our preview post each weekend.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone,

MrDots and the Team
Can we get the last two updates here too`? Thanks mate
 
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