VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.991] [WeirdWorld]

[Aristarkhos]

Valravn should be able to evolve. He was turned like a superhuman does (superaven?), but there is what I understand as a "strategic silence" when the game references his power.... I do think however that is wrong to categorize him as a "monster". He is something unique (at least till proven otherwise).

Valravn, unless crows are capable of possessing infection-resistant genes, and he in particular did, should be an Infected.

Even if he would be an exceptionally powerful one, as Apostle-Spawn. From an early Dead-End, we can assume that the power level of your monster parent is likely relevant to the power-level of a monsterfied spawn, because Alexis theorized MC was infected by an S-Class. (Note that S-Classes are always unique monsters- not entire species.) Though Infected tend to simply become another monster as the same type as their parent- what would that even mean for Apostle-spawn? But I digress.

Valravn is a monster. Not Superraven, alas, according to several points in his monster report, though he does seem to have had relatively high intelligence from near to the start, taking his Knight form after the very first time he consumed a heart as a monster.
What is of note, however, is that he is not an Infected. He is a Variant.


A Variant is usually the result of a Superhuman who fails their evolution.
Again, this does not mean Valravn is/was a Superraven. There is a line addressing this in-game.

Whether Valravn has obtained a pseudo-evolution, some other form of power boost, whether his heart-eating has changed and empowered him, or even if Apostle-Spawn monsters are Variants by default, is unknown to us at this time, unfortunately.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Since we're sort of back to this Ella and Nyx working together thing(Okay, I brought it back up myself), I'll give my take. But first, if we go with this Nyx and Ella corpse thing, this proves Ella already knew about the MC's memory trait.

Of course, I already said she knew earlier on but if we're going with the whole "Nyx's Negative Energy was used to prevent the MC from going into her memories and finding out the truth" it seems likely that they planned this to counter the memory reading of the MC. Which she would have to have known prior since there's no potent one in HERO besides him. Something which HERO has known since his meeting with Sharon. This obviously excludes Nyx for the memory reading, if she's helping Ella. So, if they're working together, Ella knew about his memory trait prior to her lost.

There's also the chance that it has nothing to do with Nyx and she's not helping her at all. Maybe Ella already developed a counter for Nyx and is simply playing dead until the negative energy wears off. Thinking about it, it's clever. If Ella knows the MC's Memory trait has progressed enough, she could have played possum to see how ready he is without letting anyone in on her plans. HERO is most likely going to try to use him to get her memories out after Nyx's energy fades and once he sets up that memory link, she'll have him where she wants him.

It's already been said repeatedly that Ella's going to bring the MC to her side, even if he doesn't like it. Originally, it seemed ridiculous since we're in HERO and she can't possibly come and get us but now that she's actually here, she can definitely pull it off. This is all while simultaneously freeing all of the other highly dangerous monsters and superhumans HERO has caged up(Free the homie Val). Ella and possibly that damn tree, are the perfect trojan horse. She'll be able to get serums and everything with this infiltration.

So for me, I don't think Nyx is working with Ella, though it's possible. I think Ella is using Nyx and her power to her advantage while throwing off suspension. It's more likely that Deus(or Zack tbh) is "helping" her since she had counters and everything set up before they even infiltrated. The monsters were ready to entrap Malik while Ella had an entire body made underground for Nico specifically. Which is what makes that scene even more suspicious because Nico wasn't supposed to even infiltrate, originally and yet she built a defense against her. Meanwhile, you had Deus apparently "cornering" Hex the entire time while doing nothing unless the MC loses his marbles.

I believe it was also stated before the infiltration that Ella might have a Future Seer as well because of how prepared she was to stop the other Captains from coming. I mean, it's possible she has a monster one but they would come across the same scenario as Deus since their time powers would intersect. They would draw the same conclusion, even if it's less detailed or accurate. So for me, I think Deus, or Zack, with a slim possibility, "helped" her. I say "help" because they most likely guaranteed that what she planned would succeed instead of outright destroying her while the chance is there.

Long story short, I would say Ella purposely got captured so she can get more serums, release the unique monsters/superhumans HERO has captured over the decades and to possibly capture the MC. She's most likely working alone but it's possible that Deus(or Zack) or Nyx are helping her in a limited capacity. Hell, maybe both of them are. I think her goal was to use her own body as a trojan horse into HERO. It would also explain why Cole and the others barely participated in the battle. And why Hex was all of a sudden ready to teleport them all away once Ella went down when he was supposedly locked in combat with Deus.

Either way, I don't think we're getting the answer next update, at least not until the very end. We got to meet MC's Dad and Alice's Papa Fairy before finding out what's going on with the twins. Then we got to go on our own infiltration mission to kill Jared's dad. I don't think the Ella thing is going to pop off until after the next update or the one after that. This is how I see it currently. I still need to get around to updating my saves to the public release but I'm still feeling too satisfied and don't have the urge to play the game, at the moment.

 

[vogelbeest]

Whether Valravn has obtained a pseudo-evolution, some other form of power boost, whether his heart-eating has changed and empowered him, or even if Apostle-Spawn monsters are Variants by default, is unknown to us at this time, unfortunately.

It would make some sense if it's the heart eating... The myth was about a raven eating the hearts of humans, then turning into knights... Valravn's power can be restored by eating human hearts (preferably children) so perhaps he evolved that way too...

Valravn "Perhaps a certain two parasites desire the connection that comes with that power."
You "Connection..."
Valravn "Thou'st felt it, hast thou not? As thou ascends, a link inside thee, connecting to... something else, something beyond this realm."

So the question is if Valravn experienced it or only knows from hearing? It seems possible he had an evolution...

 

[Darthjake]

Does killing the sleazy producer guy produce any backlash regarding Julie the secretary?

I know she is just an NPC right now, and not truly involved in the MC, but he promises her that everything will be okay for her and her daughter, and I'm wondering how this can happen if we kill the fat fuck instead of sparing him.

 

[The Specter]

Does killing the sleazy producer guy produce any backlash regarding Julie the secretary?

I know she is just an NPC right now, and not truly involved in the MC, but he promises her that everything will be okay for her and her daughter, and I'm wondering how this can happen if we kill the fat fuck instead of sparing him.

She hasnt appeared in the latest update so i doubt it has an effect

 

[bloodaxis]

Since we're sort of back to this Ella and Nyx working together thing(Okay, I brought it back up myself), I'll give my take. But first, if we go with this Nyx and Ella corpse thing, this proves Ella already knew about the MC's memory trait.

Of course, I already said she knew earlier on but if we're going with the whole "Nyx's Negative Energy was used to prevent the MC from going into her memories and finding out the truth" it seems likely that they planned this to counter the memory reading of the MC. Which she would have to have known prior since there's no potent one in HERO besides him. Something which HERO has known since his meeting with Sharon. This obviously excludes Nyx for the memory reading, if she's helping Ella. So, if they're working together, Ella knew about his memory trait prior to her lost.

There's also the chance that it has nothing to do with Nyx and she's not helping her at all. Maybe Ella already developed a counter for Nyx and is simply playing dead until the negative energy wears off. Thinking about it, it's clever. If Ella knows the MC's Memory trait has progressed enough, she could have played possum to see how ready he is without letting anyone in on her plans. HERO is most likely going to try to use him to get her memories out after Nyx's energy fades and once he sets up that memory link, she'll have him where she wants him.

It's already been said repeatedly that Ella's going to bring the MC to her side, even if he doesn't like it. Originally, it seemed ridiculous since we're in HERO and she can't possibly come and get us but now that she's actually here, she can definitely pull it off. This is all while simultaneously freeing all of the other highly dangerous monsters and superhumans HERO has caged up(Free the homie Val). Ella and possibly that damn tree, are the perfect trojan horse. She'll be able to get serums and everything with this infiltration.

So for me, I don't think Nyx is working with Ella, though it's possible. I think Ella is using Nyx and her power to her advantage while throwing off suspension. It's more likely that Deus(or Zack tbh) is "helping" her since she had counters and everything set up before they even infiltrated. The monsters were ready to entrap Malik while Ella had an entire body made underground for Nico specifically. Which is what makes that scene even more suspicious because Nico wasn't supposed to even infiltrate, originally and yet she built a defense against her. Meanwhile, you had Deus apparently "cornering" Hex the entire time while doing nothing unless the MC loses his marbles.

I believe it was also stated before the infiltration that Ella might have a Future Seer as well because of how prepared she was to stop the other Captains from coming. I mean, it's possible she has a monster one but they would come across the same scenario as Deus since their time powers would intersect. They would draw the same conclusion, even if it's less detailed or accurate. So for me, I think Deus, or Zack, with a slim possibility, "helped" her. I say "help" because they most likely guaranteed that what she planned would succeed instead of outright destroying her while the chance is there.

Long story short, I would say Ella purposely got captured so she can get more serums, release the unique monsters/superhumans HERO has captured over the decades and to possibly capture the MC. She's most likely working alone but it's possible that Deus(or Zack) or Nyx are helping her in a limited capacity. Hell, maybe both of them are. I think her goal was to use her own body as a trojan horse into HERO. It would also explain why Cole and the others barely participated in the battle. And why Hex was all of a sudden ready to teleport them all away once Ella went down when he was supposedly locked in combat with Deus.

Either way, I don't think we're getting the answer next update, at least not until the very end. We got to meet MC's Dad and Alice's Papa Fairy before finding out what's going on with the twins. Then we got to go on our own infiltration mission to kill Jared's dad. I don't think the Ella thing is going to pop off until after the next update or the one after that. This is how I see it currently. I still need to get around to updating my saves to the public release but I'm still feeling too satisfied and don't have the urge to play the game, at the moment.

I can't remember exactly but if my memory doesn't fail me, the first dead end where she just outright kills us she hasn't evolved to level 5 yet, so she probably kills us to consume us and let her get the trait while evolving. The second dead end she has, but it's interrupted by something that's likely to be the seventh/lord of dark/apostle devourer. This also falls in line with the way I see Ella, a schemer, but very much someone who only has a goal, minutiae/details are planned on a whim and when fancy strikes her.

So canonically she probably found out about our memory power after we joined HERO and now she needs to find a way to both hit HERO where it hurts, which would be the base and their resources/research material, along with getting their posterboy away from them at the same time. For that to happen there needs to be some serious revelations that would make the MC actually likely to defect (maybe that HERO failed to prevent/inadvertently caused his moms death or something, maybe they wanted the research material and were willing to wait until the monster struck, like that Minyak with Clark.

As for her not working with Nyx and with Deus, personally I think she's not necessarily working with either, Nyx likely just transactions for personal gain on both sides, Deus more him allowing her to do what she wants and not actively helping to stop her because he knows that will lead to whatever he wants. In any case, I'm looking forward to the next couple updates or until we get to see how Ella's actually going to get us to join her, not SIN mind you, that's so clearly not her scene, just her and her closest posse of dumbarses.

Ella is pretty much a bottom for the MC so it's not really going to have the same effect. Even though she gives off energy of being a top, she lets the MC have his way with her in most scenes. Which is something I spoke about a long time ago. So dominating her isn't really going to be as exciting since she pretty much lets us do what we want already.

I want to break her past her limits, doubt it's possible though, but sure would be sweet if it was, she needs some comeuppance.

 

[vogelbeest]

Long story short, I would say Ella purposely got captured so she can get more serums,

More serums would be one option to get balance between HERO and SIN. But with Ella's plan to summon the Apostles there's not much reason for her, effectively these 12 Apostles would be just as good or even better as the 12 5th evolution HERO's.

So if Ella is "dead" and in HERO containment, there's still the matter of how to escape that room where her powers are suppressed. Possible gain; a bunch serums, Oscar and Klaus bodies, perhaps even Kenny or some others...
Maybe the last 4 hearts she needs, but that's just speculation, she managed to get 8 hearts without much problems...
The only thing i can think of is the body of the "uncategorised", that's unique... Overall there's not much gains and high risk.

Now if Ella just made an extra body again and escaped? That means she can work on summoning the Apostles...
The marked HERO agents could be traded or even used in order to get those bodies... But most importantly Ella would not need to depend on others... So it seems to be the logical choice... At least for Ella it would be. And she would still have her "dead" body inside HERO...

Lets face it, why would you hide in a crack of another dimension, when you know it's just a matter of time, the battle itself only had one outcome... Even if SIN would have won some fights, the battle was already lost to begin with...
With the help of the hexenring they could have simply relocated right? Malik was neutralised for some time just so the battle would not have ended too soon, Ella never really went for the kill, she mostly was stalling and turned Duncan into a tree...

Breeding Aglaecwif, marking a bunch HERO agents, the Duncan Tree, de-monsterfying Deryl, 20k human soldiers dead, 36 superhumans dead/MIA... And Ella presumed dead, HERO has the body.... What did Ella gain here? And it was really mostly Aglaecwif that paid the price... It was her sons getting slaughtered and some other monsters, but no SIN members..
We know Langdon needed Ella to distract HERO... So that one worked, but knowing Ella there must have been more gains.
And if breeding Aglaecwif was worth her offers and her loyalty to Ella, the fight against Junior might be very hard...

 

[Ddlc]

Breeding Aglaecwif, marking a bunch HERO agents, the Duncan Tree, de-monsterfying Deryl, 20k human soldiers dead, 36 superhumans dead/MIA... And Ella presumed dead, HERO has the body.... What did Ella gain here? And it was really mostly Aglaecwif that paid the price... It was her sons getting slaughtered and some other monsters, but no SIN members..
We know Langdon needed Ella to distract HERO... So that one worked, but knowing Ella there must have been more gains.
And if breeding Aglaecwif was worth her offers and her loyalty to Ella, the fight against Junior might be very hard...

Did the marks even matter ? i remember sometime ago Mc was marked by Zara and he just got rid the part that was affected and was fine i guess, Xanthe even gives you the option to remove at -1 power cost (if my memory is right).

To me it seems Aglaecwif just did that on her own, she was supposed to guard that place right ? it just happened that she found Mc and decided that making babies was more important, but that was her plans and goals above SIN.

I hope we can find her again though, between breeding her and saving Laurie at least to me crystal knight lives to fight another day.

 

[devilsdetails]

Hey, late in this, Michael is still on Evo 1. His big scene in the last update was just "figuring out how his powers work" not him evolving.

He's due for the serum, because "it's been a while since his evolution" while Alice and MC couldn't get it because they were too fresh.

Sure, i just made him Level 2 since Xanthe was giving him the serum around when the update ended. He's either going to be level 2 very soon off screen or it'll be a plot point. Seemed fine to write it that way.

 

[vogelbeest]

Did the marks even matter ? i remember sometime ago Mc was marked by Zara and he just got rid the part that was affected and was fine i guess, Xanthe even gives you the option to remove at -1 power cost (if my memory is right).

To me it seems Aglaecwif just did that on her own, she was supposed to guard that place right ? it just happened that she found Mc and decided that making babies was more important, but that was her plans and goals above SIN.

I hope we can find her again though, between breeding her and saving Laurie at least to me crystal knight lives to fight another day.

Well, not much sense marking these HERO agents if it serves no purpose... There's text about the marks being used to influence the victims, like that tv host, or being able to find their location and teleport them. HERO lost 36 superhumans, how many of these were just marked and teleported by SIN? And how many of the others are still marked now?

Agleacwif at one point in time got stuck in those mines. Valravn was likely captured recently, i think there's news where young girls disappear or where is told victims got their hearts eaten. When Jake took the ministers office he gave the orders to open that mine, he even sent a mining crew... The hexenring simply hidden the caves in that dimensional crack...
I don't think she was ordered to do anything, she has her own goals (killing the gods), if she follows orders from anyone it's the fourth or maybe the third or both... Yeah it was her cave, but she could have just left? There must have been a reason for her. Guarding that portal is just an excuse... She could have killed MC or Deryl after the deed with zero effort... Her goal to be there clearly was breeding... Ella just made sure that could happen, she probably even told her the portal itself was useless... It's only there so real Deryl can escape... But why would he? He needed to rejoin with his others...

But i'm sure we will meet Aglaecwif again... And Junior ofcourse lol...

 

[Ddlc]

Well, not much sense marking these HERO agents if it serves no purpose... There's text about the marks being used to influence the victims, like that tv host, or being able to find their location and teleport them. HERO lost 36 superhumans, how many of these were just marked and teleported by SIN? And how many of the others are still marked now?

Agleacwif at one point in time got stuck in those mines. Valravn was likely captured recently, i think there's news where young girls disappear or where is told victims got their hearts eaten. When Jake took the ministers office he gave the orders to open that mine, he even sent a mining crew... The hexenring simply hidden the caves in that dimensional crack...
I don't think she was ordered to do anything, she has her own goals (killing the gods), if she follows orders from anyone it's the fourth or maybe the third or both... Yeah it was her cave, but she could have just left? There must have been a reason for her. Guarding that portal is just an excuse... She could have killed MC or Deryl after the deed with zero effort... Her goal to be there clearly was breeding... Ella just made sure that could happen, she probably even told her the portal itself was useless... It's only there so real Deryl can escape... But why would he? He needed to rejoin with his others...

But i'm sure we will meet Aglaecwif again... And Junior ofcourse lol...

That's what i found so strange, Xanthe acted as if dealing with the marks was nothing, and i imagine Zara must know if the marks are disabled somehow. Maybe they are only a problem before HERO has a chance to get rid of them so the ones in trouble are those who were captured not those who escaped teleported by Nico, that or either Xanthe or Zara are underestimating each other.

I agree, i can't even imagine Ella believing that Aglaecwif really cared about protecting the portal, i bet she placed Aglaecwif there knowing Mc would jump at the chance of monster breeding, and since she had Del as double agent she knew about the infiltration.

 

[vogelbeest]

That's what i found so strange, Xanthe acted as if dealing with the marks was nothing,

Well, they're pretty easy to remove, but first must be detected and until removed, they're a possible weapon for Zara...
Xanthe running around during a battle just to remove these marks seems pointless... Especially if Zara can mark people faster then Xanthe can remove these marks...

 

[bloodaxis]

But i'm sure we will meet Aglaecwif again... And Junior ofcourse lol...

Hear me out here, I just had a bottle of thinking juice (whiskey) and this makes perfect sense.

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[vogelbeest]

Hear me out here, I just had a bottle of thinking juice (whiskey) and this makes perfect sense.

Aw bugger.... i only see the pictogram

But okay... Monster mama and Junior i guess?

 

[MidnightKing]

Not sure how this game flew under my radar for so long but I'm really interested in giving it a shot. Would you guys say it's a good time to get into it? I'd rather wait if there are something like reworks on the horizon for example.

 

[bloodaxis]

Not sure how this game flew under my radar for so long but I'm really interested in giving it a shot. Would you guys say it's a good time to get into it? I'd rather wait if there are something like reworks on the horizon for example.

I think it's a pretty good time to get into it, there's loads of content there already, and WW is pretty stable and keeps updating every 2/3 months or so, don't know how long it'll be until the game is ready though. And no indications of any from the start reworks or anything, I assume they'd want to wait until the end is done and then maybe redo the beginning a bit or something, at least that's the impression I've gotten. As an aside, this is the only patreon game I've thrown money to despite having enjoyed others so that should tell you something.

 

[necromater]

Ah welcome new fellow perverts to this little forum just look out for 69 he is a furry and with drako i don't know where to begin on what is wrong with him XD we also have dogclappers if that's your thing. Just remember if you feel the Need to go out to look for a goth chick just don't you are not gonna end a superhuman; most likely gonna end up in a satanic orgy or in a icetub missing a Kidney Lol or worst of all married to the goth chick i hate you peanuts bird i can't remember the name offXD

 

[vogelbeest]

or in a icetub missing a Kidney Lol or worst of all married to one XD

Married to the Kidney or the icetub? .... Asking for a friend...

 

[necromater]

Married to the Kidney or the icetub? .... Asking for a friend...

Just go to japan and marry an onsen. you horny birdie

 

[ItzSyther]

Chief dogclapper here! We worship Lady Shadow, the best girl!

We are accepting any and all applicants to our ranks as long as you meet the following requirements:
1) Worship Lady Shadow
2) Denounce any and all other girls (we will allow certain girls to bypass this rule but just remember Shadow is the superior one)