vogelbeest

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IT was the V we have all the others where is the V?
Nico might be closest to the 5th, her monster was said to be close related to Alice... That's how Alice was able to break into the other dimension with her graviton blast... But so far we don't know any spawn of the fifth...

I suspect Tiffany is sort of an artificial spawn of an Apostle, and i guess Liz and Amber will be too when Ella summons the Apostles to earth, those rings probably will prevent being taken over, but they will still be infected...

We need 6 people for those powers of the Origins; Michael, MC, Alice, Liz or Amber, Tiffany (or Claudia?) and then 1 more...
I could see Deryl, but that would mean the Rebis needs to be a numbered/Apostle so that's unlikely...
 

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Hey yo, fella! I'm a big fan of the game and I think I should share with you some of my contribution to the thread. I have created some characters's images using AI drawing. Let me know your thoughts about it, I did it for fun after all!
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Bro, what AI did you use?
 

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Nico might be closest to the 5th, her monster was said to be close related to Alice... That's how Alice was able to break into the other dimension with her graviton blast... But so far we don't know any spawn of the fifth...

I suspect Tiffany is sort of an artificial spawn of an Apostle, and i guess Liz and Amber will be too when Ella summons the Apostles to earth, those rings probably will prevent being taken over, but they will still be infected...

We need 6 people for those powers of the Origins; Michael, MC, Alice, Liz or Amber, Tiffany (or Claudia?) and then 1 more...
I could see Deryl, but that would mean the Rebis needs to be a numbered/Apostle so that's unlikely...
I'm speculating that Nico is related to the Sixth. Aglaecwif says that there exist rifts to the monster dimension in space but only the Sixth and Eighth can find them in reasonable time. Sixth is related to space and Eighth is probably related to light, so those who can teleport or move as fast as the light can hope to find them in a reasonable timeframe.

Female "We come from another space, far from here, a dimension, much like the one we're in now, but infinitely larger in scale."
Female "It is possible to reach it by simply travelling the cosmos as I understand it, though it would take an eternity for any but the Sixth and the Eigth."
Of course Alice doesn't seem to have any teleporting ability, but assuming that Aglaecwif is correct, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

I think the numbered look something like this:
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OK, fr, I think THIS should be the official in-game Ella art, this slaps! But don't tell the dev I said that, I don't want him to think his in-game art is anything to sneeze at... especially because I'm solidly on Team I Love Ella To Bits.
 

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So anyone here played área 69 ? My wife says it's good but i know better to trust her tastes like when she gets mad when i shave and wax. Lady i'm not a clóset gay i'm gonna have a fucking stroke in this fucking heat if i keep the fucking body hair.
Solid enough game, with plenty of variety, let down in part by the fact that it has a bunch of storylines that have yet to be given a conclusion, some have complained that the game's MILFs are closer to grannies, that some quest lines requier yuo to progress in other questlines frist (never to completion mind yuo but it can be verry annoying if yuo want to bee-line specific content) and that without prior knowledge you can get bogged down by the grind, just search the thread for tips and you will be fine
 

BruceBerserk

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Hey yall i had a question about the game lore (SPOILERS AHEAD)

so the Apostles range in number from 1 to 12, born in twin pairs (1 and 2, 3 and 4) and are in two different factions i remember during the MC's second evolution he says "no, 7 through twelve have already been-" his thought gets cut off in that scene. I know Ella's connected to apostles 1 through four since she had the pills for all of them and made jake a spawn of the first, Michael a spawn of the second, herself being a spawn of either the third or fourth (which one is she a spawn of?) and us the MC a spawn of both the third and fourth, is she allied to these four? also isn't alice a spawn of the fifth and Nico a spawn of the Sixth? I've heard people say that the dark lord is the seventh apostle which means he could be the leader of the faction against 1 through 6, it would make sense since Valravn one of the dark lords followers and creations hates Alices monster which now that i think of it in Alice's second evolution she hears a voice she calls grandfather that demands she kill the monster that made her superhuman, could this grandfather be an apostle and alices monster his child? also who are the other apostles i haven't heard much about 9 through twelve (i think the 8th apostle is what gave tiffany her power) who are they and what happened to them?

How did the MC's mom die? I think it could be why his eyes got fucked up and his dad not wanting to tell him about it makes me think it has something to with the supernatural, i mean the MC's dad is already shady as fuck so having him trying to keep his mothers death a secret tells me its something really secret or shady, maybe even supernatural?

How does Ella know the MC, we have several mentions of her knowing our parents, and having met us before she turned us superhuman, was she responsible for our mothers death?

What the fuck is deryl now? he became a level one superhuman, monsterfied when he fucked up his second evolution, fused with hundred of monsters and then lost most of that power and fused with a level one proxy of his, what is he now?

Ella keeps referring to a chosen superhuman superior to her that would solve her problems and bring about her final goal, she was willing to let the MC and Jake fight it out to see which one was strongest and thus most worthy of the position, what does she want to do with this chosen one and why couldn't Deryl fill the role, does this person have to be the descendent of an apostle?

Why were twins being kidnapped near the nd of the newest update? we know Amber and Liz are going to be taken by whatever's doing this with how the MC's father warned him about it, and also referenced Langdon Wilson (Council member of S.I.N and father of Jared) could he be kidnapping twins to infect them with apostles who are also twins and fusing them together to get a superhuman like us who has multiple monster apostle traits?

Final question, do you recommend playing as a corrupted MC or a Skill based MC, I've played the skill based MC for awhile and like the more heroic route you can go with it, i tried doing a Corruption playthrough but it didn't sit right with me being murderous psychopath who kills our own friends when we get the opportunity (jake the bastard who i sill have a soft spot for, and christie whose biggest crime is being a little annoying and pushy) Your able to talk with Nyx who recommends doing the corrupted path to become stronger and unlock more powers. is there anyway to balance the pursuit of skill and power with corruption,?
 

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Gentleman, I have returned. Thank you for your opinions and thoughts, I have never expected you guys would love that much :giggle: . As for the quality to be exactly look like in the game, it's really hard to generate them, I am still trying my best, but you know they are just my fun to generate arts and the in-game designs have their unique so just enjoy it.

Although, feel free to give me your opinions and share your thoughts widely. No further ado, here you go: Lucifer Team!!!

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Gentleman, I have returned. Thank you for your opinions and thoughts, I have never expected you guys would love that much :giggle: . As for the quality to be exactly look like in the game, it's really hard to generate them, I am still trying my best, but you know they are just my fun to generate arts and the in-game designs have their unique so just enjoy it.

Although, feel free to give me your opinions and share your thoughts widely. No further ado, here you go: Lucifer Team!!!

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No-piercing Alexis makes me sad.
 

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Gentleman, I have returned. Thank you for your opinions and thoughts, I have never expected you guys would love that much :giggle: . As for the quality to be exactly look like in the game, it's really hard to generate them, I am still trying my best, but you know they are just my fun to generate arts and the in-game designs have their unique so just enjoy it.

Although, feel free to give me your opinions and share your thoughts widely. No further ado, here you go: Lucifer Team!!!

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They all look fucking amazing, especially Malik!

I'll agree with Rutonat tho the fact Alexis doesn't have her piercing makes me sad as well (still looks solid tho!)
 

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I'll agree with Rutonat tho the fact Alexis doesn't have her piercing makes me sad as well (still looks solid tho!)
OG Alexis is "badass punk woman that could and would curbstomp you"
This one is more like... Thot Alexis that sells her "bathwater" (i.e. jars of water sold by a "company" in a 3rd world country that doesn't even have clean drinkable water)
:cry:
 

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I'm speculating that Nico is related to the Sixth. Aglaecwif says that there exist rifts to the monster dimension in space but only the Sixth and Eighth can find them in reasonable time. Sixth is related to space and Eighth is probably related to light, so those who can teleport or move as fast as the light can hope to find them in a reasonable timeframe.



Of course Alice doesn't seem to have any teleporting ability, but assuming that Aglaecwif is correct, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

I think the numbered look something like this:
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Yes, Nico is related to the 6th. Xanthe already said Hex and The Fairy are relatives. We also now know that Nico's power works by opening holes in space and connecting them to each other for teleportation and transportation. All that is related to Space which is the 6th. The 5th is almost guaranteed to be Time, which means Deus and Zack are from that line with Deus probably inheriting both traits from the Twin Apostles.

Hey yall i had a question about the game lore (SPOILERS AHEAD)

so the Apostles range in number from 1 to 12, born in twin pairs (1 and 2, 3 and 4) and are in two different factions i remember during the MC's second evolution he says "no, 7 through twelve have already been-" his thought gets cut off in that scene. I know Ella's connected to apostles 1 through four since she had the pills for all of them and made jake a spawn of the first, Michael a spawn of the second, herself being a spawn of either the third or fourth (which one is she a spawn of?) and us the MC a spawn of both the third and fourth, is she allied to these four? also isn't alice a spawn of the fifth and Nico a spawn of the Sixth? I've heard people say that the dark lord is the seventh apostle which means he could be the leader of the faction against 1 through 6, it would make sense since Valravn one of the dark lords followers and creations hates Alices monster which now that i think of it in Alice's second evolution she hears a voice she calls grandfather that demands she kill the monster that made her superhuman, could this grandfather be an apostle and alices monster his child? also who are the other apostles i haven't heard much about 9 through twelve (i think the 8th apostle is what gave tiffany her power) who are they and what happened to them?

How did the MC's mom die? I think it could be why his eyes got fucked up and his dad not wanting to tell him about it makes me think it has something to with the supernatural, i mean the MC's dad is already shady as fuck so having him trying to keep his mothers death a secret tells me its something really secret or shady, maybe even supernatural?

How does Ella know the MC, we have several mentions of her knowing our parents, and having met us before she turned us superhuman, was she responsible for our mothers death?

What the fuck is deryl now? he became a level one superhuman, monsterfied when he fucked up his second evolution, fused with hundred of monsters and then lost most of that power and fused with a level one proxy of his, what is he now?

Ella keeps referring to a chosen superhuman superior to her that would solve her problems and bring about her final goal, she was willing to let the MC and Jake fight it out to see which one was strongest and thus most worthy of the position, what does she want to do with this chosen one and why couldn't Deryl fill the role, does this person have to be the descendent of an apostle?

Why were twins being kidnapped near the nd of the newest update? we know Amber and Liz are going to be taken by whatever's doing this with how the MC's father warned him about it, and also referenced Langdon Wilson (Council member of S.I.N and father of Jared) could he be kidnapping twins to infect them with apostles who are also twins and fusing them together to get a superhuman like us who has multiple monster apostle traits?

Final question, do you recommend playing as a corrupted MC or a Skill based MC, I've played the skill based MC for awhile and like the more heroic route you can go with it, i tried doing a Corruption playthrough but it didn't sit right with me being murderous psychopath who kills our own friends when we get the opportunity (jake the bastard who i sill have a soft spot for, and christie whose biggest crime is being a little annoying and pushy) Your able to talk with Nyx who recommends doing the corrupted path to become stronger and unlock more powers. is there anyway to balance the pursuit of skill and power with corruption,?
The 1st = Jake(1st Gen), Minyaks(7th Gen)

The 2nd = Michael(1st Gen), Leigong(8th Gen)

The 3rd = Ella(1st Gen)

The 4th = MC(1st Gen) and Aglaecwif(Gen???)

The 5th = Deus? Zack?

The 6th = The Fairy(1st Gen), Alice(2nd Gen), Hex(Gen???), Nico(Gen???)

The 7th = Valravn(1st Gen)

The 8th = Tiffany(1st Gen), Clark(Gen???)

That's what's known currently for the Apostles and their spawn. I left out the monsters that I don't know the exact mixture of. As for recommended play style, I would say a mix of Corruption and Power is the way to go. Extremely high corruption doesn't have a benefit currently while max skill stat isn't really required for anything. If you picked up all but the Michael training skill point, you'll still have enough to save Laurie.

So really, it seems better to just Focus Power and get Skills as you go. Corruption is all up to your own preference, unless you actually want to get more info on the monster lore. I would say just make multiple playthroughs but after managing 4 on going ones, it can be a bit much.
 

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How does Ella know the MC, we have several mentions of her knowing our parents, and having met us before she turned us superhuman, was she responsible for our mothers death?
We don't know how she knows MC, we know she's been watching him him for a long time after they were together in some group of which only Ella and MC are still alive. Ella knows MC used to wear bandages over his eyes, so perhaps they were both in the clinic MC was after the fight with Kenny or Ella was in the homeless camp when MC ran away from home...

Ella knowing MC's parents means monster parents, the 3rd/The Body and the 4th/the Memory. Ella is a spawn of the 3rd, MC can be a spawn of the 3rd or the 4th. They have the same parents in that sense....

We don't know if Ella was responsible for MC's mothers death, we don't know anything except MC does not remember, most likely got his eyes scarred in the same event and his father knows more but will not tell.
Ella been a superhuman since 14, she's 3 years older than MC, so it's not impossible but she can't wipe memories...
It's possibly monster related, but with MC's memory loss it seems more likely Zach and Hendrix Bendricks paid a visit.

We know from a dream MC been alone for 11 days, so if the mother returned as a monster, the father wasn't there either.
Only way MC's dad knows something is if he's been told... Or the dream isn't how it happened/ we mis a part?
But we know from MC after his fight with Kenny, MC's been dreaming about monsters for a long time...
The only thing that's plausibel is MC's memories been wiped/changed at some point... But it could even be due to trauma..


Your able to talk with Nyx who recommends doing the corrupted path to become stronger and unlock more powers. is there anyway to balance the pursuit of skill and power with corruption,?
There's not much difference in the game until now. You can make the Minyak submit with enough corruption and you have a slightly better understanding of monster language but mostly restricted to your own bloodline, father, mother, the eye. And since you can understand him anyway during evolutions, it's mostly a flavor effect.

For full corruption you go full power, for zero corruption you need to go for skill, but you could do a path in between still eating Eric, the researcher and the farmer, for a few extra power. But it seems the full corruption path requires you to eat Kenny, Bailey, Danica and Jake and i fear Michael, Alice, Tiffany and a few more in the future... The eye warns you, if you even mis one you will never reach the peak of your powers... And these powers might even be restricted to the final chapter...
But it should be possible to go for skill, low corruption with some extra power but not devouring everybody...
My guess is there will be 3 different "good" endings... (and a ton bad ends that mostly are worth it too, but kill you)
 

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Gentleman, I have returned. Thank you for your opinions and thoughts, I have never expected you guys would love that much :giggle: . As for the quality to be exactly look like in the game, it's really hard to generate them, I am still trying my best, but you know they are just my fun to generate arts and the in-game designs have their unique so just enjoy it.

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Now that I have time, I'll start by saying Malik is by far my favorite. He looks really good. Nico is next after him. I would prefer a different hairstyle but otherwise, she's my 2nd. Then followed by Alexis. I wish she had her piercings like others have said but she looks good. After her it's Deus and Clark with a tie. I like them both as well. So it's Malik(1st), Nico(2nd), Lexi(3rd), Deus(4th) and Clark(5th).

Of the 10 you've posted, it would be something like this, for me, overall:

1. Alice
2. Malik
3. MC
4. Nico
5. Alexis
6. Ella
7. Deus
8. Clark
9. Michael
10. Deryl

I can't wait to see Nyx, FMC and Danica. They might be the real shake up for the rankings. Might dethrone Alice at the top.
 

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Hey yall i had a question about the game lore (SPOILERS AHEAD)

so the Apostles range in number from 1 to 12, born in twin pairs (1 and 2, 3 and 4) and are in two different factions i remember during the MC's second evolution he says "no, 7 through twelve have already been-" his thought gets cut off in that scene. I know Ella's connected to apostles 1 through four since she had the pills for all of them and made jake a spawn of the first, Michael a spawn of the second, herself being a spawn of either the third or fourth (which one is she a spawn of?) and us the MC a spawn of both the third and fourth, is she allied to these four? also isn't alice a spawn of the fifth and Nico a spawn of the Sixth? I've heard people say that the dark lord is the seventh apostle which means he could be the leader of the faction against 1 through 6, it would make sense since Valravn one of the dark lords followers and creations hates Alices monster which now that i think of it in Alice's second evolution she hears a voice she calls grandfather that demands she kill the monster that made her superhuman, could this grandfather be an apostle and alices monster his child? also who are the other apostles i haven't heard much about 9 through twelve (i think the 8th apostle is what gave tiffany her power) who are they and what happened to them?
Ella is chosen by something, or by a group of somethings. While we don't know what, there are a few scenes where she speaks to something, she is obviously not very friendly to it and she says "go back to sleep like the others". I've speculated that whatever this thing is, it's not her monster-father or one of the apostles, because it doesn't make much sense to be so hostile to it and the apostles aren't currently sleeping. But I could be wrong.

Ella is the spawn of the Third.
Alice is the child of the Fairy thing, which is a descendant of the Sixth, who is the monster she sees during her evolution. Since she is the child of his child, the Sixth is Alice's Monster-grandfather.
MC is the spawn of either the Third or the Fourth, not both, which are speculated to be children of the Eye. So he is the grandson of the Eye.

When Aglaecwif talks about worship she mentions that there are different gods worshipped by different fanctions. Some worship the 12 Apostles, others the Outer Twins (who she calls the "True gods of the bunch"), the Strength Eaters worship the Sea, a lot of descendants of Seventh, Ninth and Tenth worship the Dark Lord, and some of the older monsters pray for the return of the Arbiters (she also claims that this is unlikely to happen).

How did the MC's mom die? I think it could be why his eyes got fucked up and his dad not wanting to tell him about it makes me think it has something to with the supernatural, i mean the MC's dad is already shady as fuck so having him trying to keep his mothers death a secret tells me its something really secret or shady, maybe even supernatural?

How does Ella know the MC, we have several mentions of her knowing our parents, and having met us before she turned us superhuman, was she responsible for our mothers death?
Impossible to determine with the current knowledge. We know that MC and Deryl's mother died around the same time, and Ella also lost her at a similar age, so perhaps that's an indication? One theory is that their mothers are all monsters or superhumans that found some way to give birth to humans. But still it's thin.

What the fuck is deryl now? he became a level one superhuman, monsterfied when he fucked up his second evolution, fused with hundred of monsters and then lost most of that power and fused with a level one proxy of his, what is he now?
I'd say Deryl is a variant, a monsterified superhuman, but thank to his unique power and th circumstances of his defeat, the homonculus managed to shape the body and mind in a way that resembles his human form.

Ella keeps referring to a chosen superhuman superior to her that would solve her problems and bring about her final goal, she was willing to let the MC and Jake fight it out to see which one was strongest and thus most worthy of the position, what does she want to do with this chosen one and why couldn't Deryl fill the role, does this person have to be the descendent of an apostle?
Ella seems to think that Jake and MC have similar potential. From the snippets of dialogue it seems to be some combination of degree of human mutation + getting the twin traits. For all we know, Jake never showed any trait related to the Second and Ella doesn't know that MC has both traits, but she still believes that they both are candidates for her plan. Aglaecwif says that Ella found a candidate to inherit the power of Order, that she describes as having both the "Authority" and the "power" to enforce his will (I'm paraphrasing).

We also know that just being the child of an apostle isn't enough, otherwise she would a candidate as well, but she considers herself a failure. She also expects MC to surpass her in power like it's a given, and the only thing that matters is MC's effort.

Why were twins being kidnapped near the nd of the newest update? we know Amber and Liz are going to be taken by whatever's doing this with how the MC's father warned him about it, and also referenced Langdon Wilson (Council member of S.I.N and father of Jared) could he be kidnapping twins to infect them with apostles who are also twins and fusing them together to get a superhuman like us who has multiple monster apostle traits?
Your idea is on of the prevailing theories currently. We don't exactly know how deep into monsters Langdon and his allies are, but the only other instance of the word twin relating to monsters, either refers to the arbiters or the fact that apostles are born in pairs, like twins. It's possible that they plan to do a fusion after an infection, or perhaps infect the twins and use them in a ritual to summon something else? If I had to bet, I'd say fusion.

Final question, do you recommend playing as a corrupted MC or a Skill based MC, I've played the skill based MC for awhile and like the more heroic route you can go with it, i tried doing a Corruption playthrough but it didn't sit right with me being murderous psychopath who kills our own friends when we get the opportunity (jake the bastard who i sill have a soft spot for, and christie whose biggest crime is being a little annoying and pushy) Your able to talk with Nyx who recommends doing the corrupted path to become stronger and unlock more powers. is there anyway to balance the pursuit of skill and power with corruption,?
These are the available "playthroughs".
High Skill
The only benefit of this playstyle currently is to get Valravn respect without needing the Horn from Shopkeep. We don't know if it will matter in the future, but currently it's just not worth it, especially if you want to save Laurie, as the skill points you get from training, cheerleading and killing the light monster is enough.

High Corruption without eating Jake, Danica, and Bailey before she asks you to.
This and the full corruption path is the only way to get maximum power. You will need the horn to get Valravn's respect and you can end up with 310 power in the end game. You DON'T need to kill Jake and Danica for this. Currently this is the most worthwhile playthrough IMO.

Full Corruption with eating everyone.
This playthrough allows you to make Minyak submit and it's the only way to get dialogue that shows some "progression" in the corruption abilities like the ones that Nyx describes, although they are very limited. You can get 4 more corruption than the other corruption run but it doesn't seem to do anything currently. Also notice that it's possible to make Minyak submit without eating everyone, but you have to sacrifice either Danica or Bailey. It doesn't seem to matter though.

Good guy.
I haven't played that myself as I'm an evil scumbag so perhaps I'm mistaken, but if you never take any morally bad actions, you surely miss on 4 power points. The goon at the diner, the scientist when going undercover in HERO base, the Farmer, and Eric. The game allows you to get 73 + 10 from Horn before Valravn and you need 80 to get his respect, so you get locked out. Not worth it IMO.

My recommendation is High Corruption and only eat those you won't miss.
 

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Man. Binged the fuck out of this game and regret that I have to wait for updates now. That Alice and Michael evolution/power reveal was amazing and its good that Deryl is back from that monsterization. Still want an Alice monogamy route but Id settle for an Alice/Tiffany hatesex threesome. Tho Amber has been creeping up on me. Makes me almost regret taking the friend path
 

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Man. Binged the fuck out of this game and regret that I have to wait for updates now. That Alice and Michael evolution/power reveal was amazing and its good that Deryl is back from that monsterization. Still want an Alice monogamy route but Id settle for an Alice/Tiffany hatesex threesome. Tho Amber has been creeping up on me. Makes me almost regret taking the friend path
Good stay away from the goth chicks there are few Ambers and emis a little amount of liz more ellas than you think and the rest is uncut Christie. But you are married to a impish goth witch you say. Yes i am. i love my wife but boy the rest of her witchcunts.
.... yo drako wanna date a goth chick? (They are past the chick stage but i fear for my dog if i call them grow women :( )
 
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