DrakoGhoul

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So I have a question. I'll spoiler it given that it's literally the end of the current version.

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Jared's dad and by extension SIN. I don't remember the exact part(at the Mall?) but it was said that twins were starting to go missing and it had to do with them. So they're most likely after Liz and Amber as well.
 
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So I have a question. I'll spoiler it given that it's literally the end of the current version.

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I mean doesn't the MC's dad basically give away who is after them more or less?
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That person in particular is Jared's dad

I'm assuming SIN is doing some sort of experiment involving twins.
 

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I mean doesn't the MC's dad basically give away who is after them more or less?
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That person in particular is Jared's dad

I'm assuming SIN is doing some sort of experiment involving twins.
I thought it was mentioned earlier in a passing at some point prior to that as well? About Twins going missing. I could be jumbling up scenes though.
 
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I thought it was mentioned earlier in a passing at some point prior to that as well? About Twins going missing. I could be jumbling up scenes though.
You're correct, it is mentioned earlier as well.

When the MC, Liz, and Amber go to visit the shopkeep he mentions it
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Jared's dad and by extension SIN. I don't remember the exact part(at the Mall?) but it was said that twins were starting to go missing and it had to do with them. So they're most likely after Liz and Amber as well.
I mean doesn't the MC's dad basically give away who is after them more or less?
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That person in particular is Jared's dad

I'm assuming SIN is doing some sort of experiment involving twins.
Well, looks like my memory's being shit again, then. :KEK:
In that case new question : Why, in your opinion ?
Is Daddy dearest feeding on literal people ? Experimenting ? Collecting food for pet monsters ?
 

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Well, looks like my memory's being shit again, then. :KEK:
In that case new question : Why, in your opinion ?
Is Daddy dearest feeding on literal people ? Experimenting ? Collecting food for pet monsters ?
Honestly it's completely up in the air why SIN is experimenting on twins but my current theory is that they plan to make twins into superhumans and fuse them together to make them even stronger by making said fusion have access to multiple powers.

It'd also explain why so many sets of twins have been kidnapped...they just keep dying or something else happened to em.

Again just a theory but perhaps twins just are far more compatible to 'fuse' into one unlike for example if you tried to fuse MC with Deryl it couldn't be done, there is no compatibility between the 2.
 
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I think we're missing a key point people, if Langdon/S.I.N is kidnapping twins to turn them or whatever (I'd assume it's most likely to get a specific power combo); why does the Shopkeeper seem to grant them some "defense" jewelry in response to hearing about the kidnappings. In fact until he heard the news from our visit he seemed genuinely surprised and...concerned, very out of character for him to break character. Almost as if he's heard of this happening before?

I dunno I mean we know the Shopkeeper is close to Charlie if not the Monster that turned her, and I'd assume in response also close to that whole group.

Either the Shopkeeper is using those rings to help S.I.N's success in the plans and didn't get the memo from their mouth for the go ahead, or Langdon is using twins to lure a specific monster that fits that MO under wraps behind S.I.N's back (S.I.N reference being the Ella crew).
 
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I think we're missing a key point people, if Langdon/S.I.N is kidnapping twins to turn them or whatever (I'd assume it's most likely to get a specific power combo); why does the Shopkeeper seem to grant them some "defense" jewelry in response to hearing about the kidnappings. In fact until he heard the news from our visit he seemed genuinely surprised and...concerned, very out of character for him to break character. Almost as if he's heard of this happening before?
Honestly I don't know if I can get behind the idea he gave them defense jewelry (perhaps it is the case, I mean the jewelry does look...weird). Although he has been noted to giving normal items as well so the jewelry could of just been normal.

He also offered to give a set of rings for the their Dad and Uncle (Uncle is dead btw, I wonder if he died around the time MC mom and Deryl's mom did as well...) So it could of just been a normal gift but for twins only (maybe some sort of weird rule of his).

But yeah its said here that the Shopkeep gave someone a phone:
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I sincerely doubt that phone had any magical or supernatural capabilities...although it'd be funny if it did. He just seems to accept anything as currency such as water in the case of Liz and Amber and for that random person flowers.
 

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I think we're missing a key point people, if Langdon/S.I.N is kidnapping twins to turn them or whatever (I'd assume it's most likely to get a specific power combo); why does the Shopkeeper seem to grant them some "defense" jewelry in response to hearing about the kidnappings. In fact until he heard the news from our visit he seemed genuinely surprised and...concerned, very out of character for him to break character. Almost as if he's heard of this happening before?

I dunno I mean we know the Shopkeeper is close to Charlie if not the Monster that turned her, and I'd assume in response also close to that whole group.

Either the Shopkeeper is using those rings to help S.I.N's success in the plans and didn't get the memo from their mouth for the go ahead, or Langdon is using twins to lure a specific monster that fits that MO under wraps behind S.I.N's back (S.I.N reference being the Ella crew).
Although in the case it is defense jewelry I sense a potential death flag in Liz's future
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There's a good chance despite the fact she still took the jewelry she won't wear it or she may have even left it at home around the time she got yoinked with her sister.
 
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Honestly I don't know if I can get behind the idea he gave them defense jewelry (perhaps it is the case, I mean the jewelry does look...weird). Although he has been noted to giving normal items as well so the jewelry could of just been normal.

He also offered to give a set of rings for the their Dad and Uncle (Uncle is dead btw, I wonder if he died around the time MC mom and Deryl's mom did as well...) So it could of just been a normal gift but for twins only (maybe some sort of weird rule of his).

But yeah its said here that the Shopkeep gave someone a phone:
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I sincerely doubt that phone had any magical or supernatural capabilities...although it'd be funny if it did. He just seems to accept anything as currency such as water in the case of Liz and Amber and for that random person flowers.
Okay so upon further inspection he wasn't breaking character I dunno where the fuck I got that from but he does offer some really detailed rings. I HIGHLY doubt it's just nothing or him being weird, never is.

He also ask for water from them, which he says he'll be collecting at a later date which is also odd, it's whacky and I could just be looking too far into it, but I'm betting those rings mean something for the future, which means he knew something was going to happen ahead of time. Meaning he either DOESN'T care for S.I.N's plans, or it was like I said and Langdon went behind the inner circle's back.
 
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Side note you know what I find funny about that Shopkeeper? I believe it was stated that Oscar got his powers around the same time we did, probably meaning Charlie got hers later on, as if I'm not mistaken she was scared or hiding during the event where Oscar's Monster killed their parents and he fought it off. Maybe I'm just misremembering but if that IS the case the we've been working with the Shopkeeper before we even got our abilities on occasion, be it doing runs or otherwise.

Why does the Shopkeeper have this addiction to calling us Charlie when he has probably known us longer?
 
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Side note you know what I find funny about that Shopkeeper? I believe it was stated that Oscar got his powers around the same time we did, probably meaning Charlie got hers later on, as if I'm not mistaken she was scared or hiding during the event where Oscar's Monster killed their parents and he fought it off. Maybe I'm just misremembering but if that IS the case the we've been working with the Shopkeeper before we even got our abilities on occasion, be it doing runs or otherwise.

Why does the Shopkeeper have this addiction to calling us Charlie when he has probably known us longer?
Now I can't remember where it's said but I remember the MC saying that he calls everyone Charlie (or at least most people). Do correct me if I'm wrong on that tho.
 
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Either the Shopkeeper is using those rings to help S.I.N's success in the plans and didn't get the memo from their mouth for the go ahead
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I think the Shopekeep is more of a free agent, a wild card. He likely does not belong to any faction and knows so much more than anybody because he's not human not superhuman. Maybe a very rare type of monster, or something, kinda like the new monster Mommy that costs you Laurie.

So far I think he's mostly minding his own business, keeping an eye on the situation, possibly because he has some sort of agreement with the Apostles that he'll be left the fuck alone so long as he doesn't meddle with their plans, and he just... toys with the limits of that agreement by nudging the MC in the right direction, but never directly getting involved.
 

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He might also be Charlie's monster parent, so he is invested in her own success. Sort of a "I said I'd stay out of it, but now I have skin in the game, so I'm going to stay out of it, but reach over the fence a little. It's not breaking the truce if I lob it into the ring, and stand 5 feet away."
 
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He might also be Charlie's monster parent, so he is invested in her own success. Sort of a "I said I'd stay out of it, but now I have skin in the game, so I'm going to stay out of it, but reach over the fence a little. It's not breaking the truce if I lob it into the ring, and stand 5 feet away."
He's also very invested in the MC, yet has no relation to him outside of having been his boss for a time (if memory serves).
It's highly possible that he considers that some superhumans will be key players in what's coming and is making sure they're not going to endu p dead before they play their part. Which would suggest some importance o nthe part of Charlie.
 
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He's also very invested in the MC, yet has no relation to him outside of having been his boss for a time (if memory serves).
It's highly possible that he considers that some superhumans will be key players in what's coming and is making sure they're not going to endu p dead before they play their part. Which would suggest some importance o nthe part of Charlie.
THANK YOU! He's literally known Charlie longer if Oscar's timeline is anything to go off of. He has singlehandedly provided 2 of arguably some of the most important objects in the game. He's not just some neutral ground, run of the mill, monster who's handing out Valravn beating power boosters or an Eye that restricts access even to Aglaecwif herself for no reason.

My money is on him being Neutral sure, but I think it's like how you said where he's placing his interests in certain pawns for whatever giant event is going to take place between the Monster factions. I doubt those rings are just normal, they even got their own images to match. The only things that have really gotten their own individual images are weird Supernatural objects. Such as Markus's lucky (probably monster) finger, Shadow's Ella found finger, and the Fairy's container.

One thing to note; perhaps he WAS on Ella and S.I.N's side. But that was before she got "killed", Aglaecwif retreated, and most of the other monsters were either slaughtered or left with her. To me it seems like Ella HAD a plan that Monsters of a certain faction signed up for, but when they realized they were just being used as cannon fodder and being annihilated; Aglaecwif took her son Goliath and whoever else with her to kind of abolish that deal, perhaps the Shopkeeper did the sams. In that case the one running the show is probably Cole and Langdon, two people who Ella really doesn't like at least from a trustworthy perspective for the importance of her plans. Could be that while Langdon is kidnapping the twins for a specific monster summon either to infect them for a power or to capture the monster itself; he might not be seeing the bigger picture that Ella or even the Shopkeeper has had in store which would be why he gave them the rings for whatever supernatural purpose they serve (probably).
 
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So the shopkeep is a dealmaker that's a fact but of what kind ? A fey? An Azata? A vampire? My Money is on a devil cus the guy looks like he gets off making the deals more than of the payments
You know who he reminds me off?
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This adorable prick XD
 
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Gentlemans, how is your day? I'm glad that most of you love the pics, that's the thing I love to do currently, bringing awsome characters of an amazing game to arts.

I am still trying to make the best of the best as I can so thanks for all of your comments.

Today I let the monsters take the stage. Their designs are just too cool to be wasted, right? It's hard to get them in their place for me to generate.

Well... let skip that, here you go, enjoy!

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