VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[ItzSyther]

There aren't really traps in the game.

There are two point five twinks though. One poit five of which you can have sex with.

Demi fulfills the 'trap' role or well... they are the nearest thing to one. It's not really a trap or a surprise since we can select their gender upon first seein em (kinda kills the trap vibes imo).

Guess Weird wanted us to have a choice there if some of us wouldn't be down to see a big ol cock on a person we thought was a chick.

 

[Dominosaur]

Demi fulfills the 'trap' role or well... they are the nearest thing to one. It's not really a trap or a surprise since we can select their gender upon first seein em (kinda kills the trap vibes imo)

Exactly. Their gender is, in universe and out of it "whatever you want it to be" and then their sex matches it through the magic of coding.

 

[Dragon59]

There aren't really traps in the game.

There are two point five twinks though. One point five of which you can have sex with.
Be careful not to pick the wrong 1 though (joking, you don't have a chance to choose the wrong choice...yet)

When I think "trap," I picture James from the Pokemon series.

Perhaps he truly likes cross-dressing for the pleasure of it, but he usually uses it as part of some scheme, so "trap."

He definitely seems to identify as a cis male and not trans at all.

 

[Dragon59]

In this game there is a single 'trap' character known as Demi and their gender can be selected upon first seeming them. When you first see the character despite seeing this choice the character is rather androgynous although imo looks more like a female.

So not trap, but trans?

 

[necromater]

So...... wtf? Every time i go with my wife to her weird almost criminal activities
There's a shitstorm on the forum . Is this because Drako killed Demi ? Or because of syther being syther? Did 69 found a furry cult ? Or alke desire to rape ella's corpse?

 

[ItzSyther]

So not trap, but trans?

Not exactly? From what I can tell either iteration of Demi is a biological male or female. Meaning, if a player selected female that version has eggs meanwhile the male has sperm.

Due to the appearance of Demi that makes them a trap, anyone can stare at them and assume either gender, I personally think they are female appearance wise but someone else could assume male or be neutral on the topic.

Also as far as I can tell no character in the game thus far is trans or confirmed to be (we have had some body modifications and the MC genderbending I guess that could be considered trans in a way?) but Demi is just a trap who isn't really one cause the wise sage Weird decided to ruin the surprise lol.

 

[Neverwonder]

but wasn't the prisoner chick (i think his name was nikki?) a trap too since he was born a male but was very feminine looking before he was turn into a chick?

 

[ItzSyther]

but wasn't the prisoner chick (i think his name was nikki?) a trap too since he was born a male but was very feminine looking before he was turn into a chick?

Yeah, they could be considered a trap too...although much like Demi its kinda well...revealed and kinda takes the wind out of the who surprise trap thing but yeah still a trap.

I mean considering it was an all male prison I imagine there were others in there or could Nikki be considered a twink? I think Nikki fits that category since he was rather open about himself being a man at the time.

 

[Neverwonder]

I always though a trap was someone looking the opposite of their birth gender like Astolfo from Fate or Sakura Ogami from Danganronpa. One look like a girl but is a boy and one that look like a boy is a girl

 

[ItzSyther]

I always though a trap was someone looking the opposite of their birth gender like Astolfo from Fate or Sakura Ogami from Danganronpa. One look like a girl but is a boy and one that look like a boy is a girl

Same, although there are other things that are quite similar to 'trap' so might depend on what Weird is doing.

I'm not exactly a fan of how he handled trap content but then again I don't particularly care about it to begin with. I do like the fact we have a choice on deciding the gender (of Demi at least) but it kinda ruins the mystique if you know what I mean.

Demi's a character who if I'm not wrong the game even says you can't really tell so the fact we have a choice it kinda kills the whole mystery...and god damn it papa syther loves himself a good mystery... is there a shlong down there or the gates to heaven ...or rather the gates to potential child support

 

[Dragon59]

Same, although there are other things that are quite similar to 'trap' so might depend on what Weird is doing.

I'm not exactly a fan of how he handled trap content but then again I don't particularly care about it to begin with. I do like the fact we have a choice on deciding the gender (of Demi at least) but it kinda ruins the mystique if you know what I mean.

Demi's a character who if I'm not wrong the game even says you can't really tell so the fact we have a choice it kinda kills the whole mystery...and god damn it papa syther loves himself a good mystery... is there a shlong down there or the gates to heaven ...or rather the gates to potential child support

So you'd like a third button that says "Surprise Me."

 

[ItzSyther]

So you'd like a third button that says "Surprise Me."

Exactly! It'll make the whole 'trap' content better at least in regards to Demi, that way we don't really know until we get dem pants off.

Nikki sadly we'd figure it out pretty easily since ya know...all male prison and all.

 

[Neverwonder]

I just always thought of the option to choice demi gender as a weird way of how their power affect us and that by picking the gender we are "seeing" what we want to see. then again I never really care for trap content so i could be wrong.

 

[ItzSyther]

I just always thought of the option to choice demi gender as a weird way of how their power affect us and that by picking the gender we are "seeing" what we want to see. then again I never really care for trap content so i could be wrong.

Hmm, kinda like the Asari in mass effect? I recall that they have the ability to affect the other races perception of them. Hell there's a whole dialogue where a buncha males from different races (Salarian, turian, etc) comment how the Asari look similar to their women or whatever.

And due to the fact we play the game through the eyes of a human they look more human more or less.

Demi might have somethin like that goin on.

Also, I think demi basically confirms her power had little to no effect on MC (I think) which was how they were able to conclude the MC was the Hero the whole world was talkin bout.

 

[Neverwonder]

Hmm, kinda like the Asari in mass effect? I recall that they have the ability to affect the other races perception of them. Hell there's a whole dialogue where a buncha males from different races (Salarian, turian, etc) comment how the Asari look similar to their women or whatever.

And due to the fact we play the game through the eyes of a human they look more human more or less.

Demi might have somethin like that goin on.

Also, I think demi basically confirms her power had little to no effect on MC (I think) which was how they were able to conclude the MC was the Hero the whole world was talkin bout.

Idk about the asari since I never play mass effect. But I thought Demi power did effect us but in a small manner like them making us see a remote as a gold bar or if your playing a non corrupt path make us not want to kill clover, but those were all after the training with the mc to better control their power. I don't really remember if their power did really effect us before then other then maybe us just liking them or us being more friendly with them

 

[ItzSyther]

Idk about the asari since I never play mass effect. But I thought Demi power did effect us but in a small manner like them making us see a remote as a gold bar or if your playing a non corrupt path make us not want to kill clover, but those were all after the training with the mc to better control their power. I don't really remember if their power did really effect us before then other then maybe us just liking them or us being more friendly with them

Honestly it's a bit hard to tell if Demi had any effect on MC early on. If a prior discussion some of the more dedicated folks said a few pages back about the advantage MC has due to having 2 parents he might of just been too strong even at level 1 to be affected by them properly since they had no training.

But then I have to question something...if MC by the time he encounters clover (during the kidnapping thing) MC should be level 2 by that point right? Even with training I have no clue how Demi can affect MC who has such a power gap over em.

Jake is a good example of this despite the fact MC was ahead he was able to 'catch' up somewhat and when we head back to the party house he is in a room with Liz and Amber and can command the MC to leave but if the player trained enough he can resist that command by saying "What did you say to me?!?" (Something like that)

I doubt Demi evolved or maybe the MC just had his guard down so much that they could have some influence I mean she isn't a threat to him so I can see how he'd let his guard down somewhat.

 

[Dominosaur]

Ella actually talks about this, and I have my own theories. Basically when the MC meets Demi, he is evo 1. He's "Pretty Strong" and growing at an astonishing rate, but Demi has had their powers for around 5 years at that point. Even with just their..."Endurance" training (They say having too many people looking at them used to tire them out and now they can emcee for an auditorium full of fans), over a 5 year period, Demi probably had around 10-15 power, at least. From there two things happened.
1, Demi "got their hooks" into the MC. Ella talks about this wrt Jake, but any 'psychic interference' seems to be sticky. It can be broken out of, but if you don't think to do it...
2. Demi just got to talk with and bond with MC. Obviously, anyone can dislike Demi, but I think the subtext of their relationship is "Demi is a nice person who likes me, and my super hero form" so he never has that "THE FIRST DOES NOT CONTROL ME" moment. He's trapped by Demi, the same way your blanket traps you when it's cold in your room in the morning and you don't want to go to work.


Also, Demi's power is almost "intentionally weak" and combined with their lack of malice, they can affect people they shouldn't be able to. As Ella explains it, "When you're in danger, your powers will naturally work to protect you." Demi, in many dimensions, isn't dangerous, and they don't try to be. Their power also works much more subtly (Literally, it's done subconsciously). Whe Jake infiltrates H.E.R.O. the first time, it's because he's not asking Alex to do anything she would be really opposed to. That's Demi's whole meta, except that's also who they are. It's not an act for them. Notably, the only times you can kill Demi are when they preset themself as dangerous: Either when they reveal they know your identity, and you can, in paranoia, kill them to hide the secret, or when they straight up threaten to expose you. (Even after killing Clover, the MC doesn't think to kill Demi until they threaten him first)

As a aside, I like to think Demi would basically introduce themself to anyone they meet in H.E.R.O. as "Hi, I'm Demi, I am required by law to inform you that I have a power that makes you like me. Please evaluate yourself so that you don't succumb to it. I hope we can be friends regardless!"

 

[Neverwonder]

Honestly it's a bit hard to tell if Demi had any effect on MC early on. If a prior discussion some of the more dedicated folks said a few pages back about the advantage MC has due to having 2 parents he might of just been too strong even at level 1 to be affected by them properly since they had no training.

But then I have to question something...if MC by the time he encounters clover (during the kidnapping thing) MC should be level 2 by that point right? Even with training I have no clue how Demi can affect MC who has such a power gap over em.

Jake is a good example of this despite the fact MC was ahead he was able to 'catch' up somewhat and when we head back to the party house he is in a room with Liz and Amber and can command the MC to leave but if the player trained enough he can resist that command by saying "What did you say to me?!?" (Something like that)

I doubt Demi evolved or maybe the MC just had his guard down so much that they could have some influence.

I mean for what I remember in game with jake his command was more forceful so he probably put some power behind it and even back then when the mc just just level two he could have felt "something" trying to rule him over so he resisted even if subconsciously, but with demi it was more of a plead and depending on your corruption you could either ignore it or follow their wish in not killing clover thus lettings their power effect you in a small way. that the best I could explain it since im pretty sure there was a topic on how similiter demi and jake power were. As I see jake power as more of an "Order" where if he say something to some one they either do it, experience it or just straights up believe him where as with demi how i see their power is more like "desire" if that correct they can make them see what they want to see or something more passives is making other people like her more where they like to hang around with her more and not harm her and if left alone for too long it will make the protective of her where they will hunt and kill anyone that as so much as look at her funny. at least that how I see it

 

[Neverwonder]

Ella actually talks about this, and I have my own theories. Basically when the MC meets Demi, he is evo 1. He's "Pretty Strong" and growing at an astonishing rate, but Demi has had their powers for around 5 years at that point. Even with just their..."Endurance" training (They say having too many people looking at them used to tire them out and now they can emcee for an auditorium full of fans), over a 5 year period, Demi probably had around 10-15 power, at least. From there two things happened.
1, Demi "got their hooks" into the MC. Ella talks about this wrt Jake, but any 'psychic interference' seems to be sticky. It can be broken out of, but if you don't think to do it...
2. Demi just got to talk with and bond with MC. Obviously, anyone can dislike Demi, but I think the subtext of their relationship is "Demi is a nice person who likes me, and my super hero form" so he never has that "THE FIRST DOES NOT CONTROL ME" moment. He's trapped by Demi, the same way your blanket traps you when it's cold in your room in the morning and you don't want to go to work.


Also, Demi's power is almost "intentionally weak" and combined with their lack of malice, they can affect people they shouldn't be able to. As Ella explains it, "When you're in danger, your powers will naturally work to protect you." Demi, in many dimensions, isn't dangerous, and they don't try to be. Their power also works much more subtly (Literally, it's done subconsciously). Whe Jake infiltrates H.E.R.O. the first time, it's because he's not asking Alex to do anything she would be really opposed to. That's Demi's whole meta, except that's also who they are. It's not an act for them. Notably, the only times you can kill Demi are when they preset themself as dangerous: Either when they reveal they know your identity, and you can, in paranoia, kill them to hide the secret, or when they straight up threaten to expose you. (Even after killing Clover, the MC doesn't think to kill Demi until they threaten him first)

As a aside, I like to think Demi would basically introduce themself to anyone they meet in H.E.R.O. as "Hi, I'm Demi, I am required by law to inform you that I have a power that makes you like me. Please evaluate yourself so that you don't succumb to it. I hope we can be friends regardless!"

Yeah what he said

 

[Dominosaur]

Glad you said Desire, because that also comes up when MC is reading Demi's mind...Or trying to.

[Part of why I think Demi might be related to the. Fooourth? Memory? Is because even though by that point, MC is evo 2, he has trouble reading Demi's mind, which makes me think of how powers have some "Rock Paper Scissors" to them (Like how Valravn nullifies Nico, or Alice sort of nullifies Klaus).]

He mentions that he has trouble reading them and figuring out their power, but does mention the word 'desire' iirc. My game is being weird (because it's been strung together from version 0.21, so a lot of flags are messed up on old saves) so I ca't find the actual text.