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What if the Arbiter sides with her though? Having the Arbiter plotting in your head is one thing but adding Ella to the mix will make it much worse.
There's always a risk of Ella trying something while in MC's mind but I truly doubt he'd side with her. Why? Because after sometime I can only imagine Arbiter would figure out what kind of person she is to some degree and that she isn't trustworthy whatsoever.

If anything they'd have a temporary alliance and backstab each other at a moment's notice of MC being taken down and its only a matter of who can assume control first (I can only assume Arbiter would get it just based on the principle of him being a complete unknown power wise).

But with both of them in MC's head if they didn't get a temp alliance they'd be too busy dealing with each other which would give MC the time he needs to figure out how to quash them or at least lessen Ella/Arbiter's influence).

Shit if MC gets strong enough both in mind and body I can only imagine that he'd be able to quash any of the voices in his head and their influence but time will tell in that regard.

I also want to mention that Arbiter is someone who doesn't want to rush things as seen when MC declines to allow him to assume control and it'd be better for him to just wait till MC is stronger rather than team up with potential competition since from what I can gather he's confident even if MC was stronger he'd still get control (slow and steady wins the race basically).
 
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So what I'm hearing is...there is still hope for a Michael and clover ship.
Yup. Also, she is kind of a battle junkie. When she hears she lost a fight to MC, her first instinct is to go a second round. Even though MC is bigger than her, and she's no longer armed. Clover likes fighting.

She doesn't remember basically anything in that moment, she just doesn't like losing.
 
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There's always a risk of Ella trying something while in MC's mind but I truly doubt he'd side with her. Why? Because after sometime I can only imagine Arbiter would figure out what kind of person she is to some degree and that she isn't trustworthy whatsoever.

If anything they'd have a temporary alliance and backstab each other at a moment's notice of MC being taken down and its only a matter of who can assume control first (I can only assume Arbiter would get it just based on the principle of him being a complete unknown power wise).

But with both of them in MC's head if they didn't get a temp alliance they'd be too busy dealing with each other which would give MC the time he needs to figure out how to quash them or at least lessen Ella/Arbiter's influence).
Why would they do that though? Ella is the daughter of the 3rd. That's the Arbiters "granddaughter". Ella's plan also seems to involve getting the Arbiters back or at least their power. It would likely side with Ella since her goal would be beneficial to him compared to the MC.

She would likely complete every sacrifice he asked too, compared to the MC.
 

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Why would they do that though? Ella is the daughter of the 3rd. That's the Arbiters "granddaughter". Ella's plan also seems to involve getting the Arbiters back or at least their power. It would likely side with Ella since her goal would be beneficial to him compared to the MC.

She would likely complete every sacrifice he asked too, compared to the MC.
I view it as simply 'sacrificing' a pawn more or less. Despite how manipulative and powerful Ella is and the fact she is the arbiter's granddaughter she is just a pawn in the grand scheme of things.

For whatever purpose she is going after its quite clear she isn't capable of whatever it is and is trying to find those who are (example: MC, Jake) and this is further empathized via a bad end where MC reveals the full extent of his power to Ella (I believe she said something along the lines of "You were just what I was looking for" or something like that.

I can only imagine if she found whom she was looking for she'd extract whatever it is they had for herself (in this case arbiter from the MC to put into herself).

Back to the pawn thing Ella is nothing more than "a means to an end" for the arbiter, would she be willing to do whatever he asked? Yes but ultimately much like he did with MC via bad end he'd just assume control with Ella being nothing more than an echo of a memory.

The MC is a lot easier to control (imo) in comparison to Ella as Arbiter is still a complete unknown to the MC at this point in the story and thus easier to manipulate for his goals.

I don't know if Ella knows that she'd be consumed or not but if she doesn't she'd be in for a hell of a nightmare (idk how she'd react perhaps she'd be fine with it but on the off chance she wouldn't be that'd be an oof for her).

Now do correct me if I'm wrong but during the bad end Ella assumed the MC more or less rushed his evolution and fell to his own power right? She didn't think anything about the Arbiter in that regard and rather just the MC failing to take what she said into consideration (more or less thats what got me into this line of thinking that she doesn't know what the Arbiter would do).
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As we've seen so far the Arbiter has been whispering to the MC that he must sacrifice certain peoples and I can only imagine the MC will do so (or at least have the option cause corruption fun time) so even if Ella would do it all for the Arbiter no question the MC could do the same if he believed it was for his own good which I'm sure the Arbiter could convince the MC of.

In any case the Arbiter will ask the MC the same question he did again in the most recent update at some point he mustn't rush this and the MC is a great choice despite Ella technically being the better one but sucks for her she doesn't have em in her hot bod.
 
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So, waifus:

These 3 are my favorites, I don't have many ideas for the others yet.

Nyx - Captain Mommy. This kinky bitch has to have the most bizarre exhibitionism fetish. I wonder if the ghosts she talks to can get horny and/or frustrated. I can easily picture fucking her ass while she taunts them for being dead. And of course these marks are going to be extremely useful. I can safely fuck anyone I want to death thanks to them.

Ella - The Big Sis, the Whore Queen, the girl you love to hate, hate to love, love to love and hate to hate. I can't wait to turn her into a perennial sexual experiment. Together we are going to answer questions like, "What is the optimal amount of pussies", "What happens when you stretch an anus wider than a planet" etc.

Alice - The Girlfriend. Hotblooded pretty little thing with mental issues and willing to share. She is going to be perfect. Wife material right here. I can be her father, her mother, whatever she needs. I also wonder how she will act if I fuck her in Klaus' form. If Ella is the physical experiment, Alice is the mental one.
 
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I view it as simply 'sacrificing' a pawn more or less. Despite how manipulative and powerful Ella is and the fact she is the arbiter's granddaughter she is just a pawn in the grand scheme of things.

For whatever purpose she is going after its quite clear she isn't capable of whatever it is and is trying to find those who are (example: MC, Jake) and this is further empathized via a bad end where MC reveals the full extent of his power to Ella (I believe she said something along the lines of "You were just what I was looking for" or something like that.

I can only imagine if she found whom she was looking for she'd extract whatever it is they had for herself (in this case arbiter from the MC to put into herself).

Back to the pawn thing Ella is nothing more than "a means to an end" for the arbiter, would she be willing to do whatever he asked? Yes but ultimately much like he did with MC via bad end he'd just assume control with Ella being nothing more than an echo of a memory.

The MC is a lot easier to control (imo) in comparison to Ella as Arbiter is still a complete unknown to the MC at this point in the story and thus easier to manipulate for his goals.

I don't know if Ella knows that she'd be consumed or not but if she doesn't she'd be in for a hell of a nightmare (idk how she'd react perhaps she'd be fine with it but on the off chance she wouldn't be that'd be an oof for her).

Now do correct me if I'm wrong but during the bad end Ella assumed the MC more or less rushed corruption and fell to his own power right? She didn't think anything about the Arbiter in that regard and rather just the MC failing to take what she said into consideration (more or less thats what got me into this line of thinking that she doesn't know what the Arbiter would do).

As we've seen so far the Arbiter has been whispering to the MC that he must sacrifice certain peoples and I can only imagine the MC will do so (or at least have the option cause corruption fun time) so even if Ella would do it all for the Arbiter no question the MC could do the same if he believed it was for his own good which I'm sure the Arbiter could convince the MC of.
Why would Ella be harder to manipulate? She's his descendant. Just like how he made the 3rd and 4th halt during the MC's evolution, he would have no problem doing the same with Ella, if he needed too. Especially a memory version of her.

You have to also remember, she can't hide anything from the Arbiter while he can hide his entire existence from her. All he would have to do is give her a little nudge in taking over the MC's body and "guide" her to completion before completely taking over. You might say "why she would agree to do that" but she's nothing but a memory. Why wouldn't she make a devil's agreement. We already know she has no problem discarding the MC, if she has to and she's truly that selfish to do it if given another shot at achieving her goal.

Also, yes, Ella didn't know that the MC was reborn by the Origin there. On the surface, she thought the MC gave in to his Evolution and turned into a monster. Though, we don't know her inner thoughts about it. There's another thing as well. It seems to be after Ella anyway(I'm guessing the "her" is referring to Ella), so she's likely an important piece to him reaching completion, even outside them teaming up.
 

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Why would Ella be harder to manipulate? She's his descendant. Just like how he made the 3rd and 4th halt during the MC's evolution, he would have no problem doing the same with Ella, if he needed too. Especially a memory version of her.

You have to also remember, she can't hide anything from the Arbiter while he can hide his entire existence from her. All he would have to do is give her a little nudge in taking over the MC's body and "guide" her to completion before completely taking over. You might say "why she would agree to do that" but she's nothing but a memory. Why wouldn't she make a devil's agreement. We already know she has no problem discarding the MC, if she has to and she's truly that selfish to do it if given another shot at achieving her goal.

Also, yes, Ella didn't know that the MC was reborn by the Origin there. On the surface, she thought the MC gave in to his Evolution and turned into a monster. Though, we don't know her inner thoughts about it. There's another thing as well. It seems to be after Ella anyway(I'm guessing the "her" is referring to Ella), so she's likely an important piece to him reaching completion, even outside them teaming up.
I'm thinking about it a bit more since (again correct me if I'm wrong) but Ella does state at one point or another the MC will join her rather he wants to or not.

Perhaps that was what she was referencing (bad end arbiter) since she's needed, perhaps she just holds a piece that the Arbiter needs?

Although hear me out on some fucking conspiracy theory nonsense...what if it wasn't Ella he was looking for:
Arbiter MC thinks this:

In reference to Ella and Nico (both are 'perfect spawn' in his eyes so are they both equal to him in value for his needs?)

Although Weird puts greater emphasis on Ella in this scene as Arbiter MC thinks this:

Now my conspiracy theorist thoughts make me instantly think of misdirection here (idk why but it'd be a funny curveball that Nico was actually what he was after).

He always says "Her" although this could just be because Arbiter hasn't properly yoink'd all of MC's memories by this point and all he has is a familiarity with the people there (specifically Ella) since its more or less obvious MC knew Ella for quite a while (I wonder if Deryl was nearby he'd feel the same familiarity to him? Who knows)

But anywhosen I'll concede in regards to Ella being harder to manipulate.

Now this line here gives me hope that the MC will consume Ella (or Nico) or take whatever it is she has...Arbiter wants whatever she has (or her in general) so consuming her or rather 'sacrificing her' and whomever else he needs is something Arbiter has already asked the MC to do anyway.
 
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I've been looking at Weird World's Patreon hoping for new of the update and I've been looking over the names of the tiers again. The 5th tier has been called Apostle with a picture of the 3rd for a long time, if not from the beginning of the Patreon. We now know what that was referring to.
The 6th tier is called Eye of God with a picture of a silver eye and the 7th is called Unknown with a picture of the 7th.
Do we have any hints as to what the Eye of God is yet?
I don't remember seeing them, but there is a ton of material in the game now.
 
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Claudia: a tender lover embrace with a lot of kisses , and all pages of the eldrich Kamasutra that have hugs because she loves hugs and so dó i
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Alice+tiff: well is not that common that drako and i are of the same choice. descarga (3).jpeg
Emily + Alice+Amber: shits gonna go down for the first wife place let's put also tiff because she has to be the very best hahah (woman you are so my wife that it scares me ).
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Harem: a milkbath in ange milk gonna milk that cow and since the milk gives the Energy back that tentacle orgy gonna be long........ XD
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I'm thinking about it a bit more since (again correct me if I'm wrong) but Ella does state at one point or another the MC will join her rather he wants to or not.

Perhaps that was what she was referencing (bad end arbiter) since she's needed, perhaps she just holds a piece that the Arbiter needs?

Although hear me out on some fucking conspiracy theory nonsense...what if it wasn't Ella he was looking for:
Arbiter MC thinks this:
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In reference to Ella and Nico (both are 'perfect spawn' in his eyes so are they both equal to him in value for his needs?

Although Weird puts greater emphasis on Ella in this scene as Arbiter MC thinks this:
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Now my conspiracy theorist thoughts make me instantly think of misdirection here (idk why but it'd be a funny curveball that Nico was actually what he was after).

He always says "Her" although this could just be because Arbiter hasn't properly yoink'd all of MC's memories by this point and all he has is a familiarity with the people there (specifically Ella) since its more or less obvious MC knew Ella for quite a while (I wonder if Deryl was nearby he'd feel the same familiarity to him? Who knows)

But whosen I'll concede in regards to Ella being harder to manipulate.

Now this line here gives me hope that the MC will consume Ella or take whatever it is she has...Arbiter wants whatever she has (or her in general) so consuming her or rather 'sacrificing her' and whomever else he needs is something Arbiter has already asked the MC to do anyway.
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The Arbiter referring to Ella as a perfected spawn suggests it wasn't after her.
I suggest that the "her" it was seeking was Aglaecwif.
 

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The Arbiter referring to Ella as a perfected spawn suggests it wasn't after her.
I suggest that the "her" it was seeking was Aglaecwif.
Oh gosh Idk how I fucking forgot about Monster Mommy she does make a lot more sense for the Arbiter to be after.
 

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The Arbiter referring to Ella as a perfected spawn suggests it wasn't after her.
I suggest that the "her" it was seeking was Aglaecwif.
That kind of makes sense that means that goth monster Mommy gonna be back......... oh yeah also Junior man; monster child support bites you in the ass fast XD
 
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man i think at the end the thing with ella gonna go. The crazy psyco stalker of the
¡¡¡¡¡why don't you love me? !!! Kind XD man i feel so many perturabo vibes from her XD . Why the psycolovers are so much of a pain in the butt :(
 
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The Arbiter referring to Ella as a perfected spawn suggests it wasn't after her.
I suggest that the "her" it was seeking was Aglaecwif.
Why would the "her" be Aglaecwif when she was still in the same cave the MC just left? He already knows Aglaecwif location because MC recently encountered her. If she left the cave afterwards, Goliath wouldn't know her new location since he was fighting Lexi the entire time. It seems to point to Ella because he immediately goes directly towards her after getting the info from Goliath.

We also have to look at Aglaecwif herself. We know she's a descendant of the 4th and has the Memory Trait. She also has the dark magic that's rare among even the monster race. The Memory Trait has no value, the MC already has it. The Dark Magic isn't really important for an Arbiter, who likely already mastered it. What other reason could he want with Aglaecwif? Could there be something unknown that we don't know about? Sure but he went towards Ella and Nico fight.

I'm not ruling out Aglaecwif completely, because it's still possible. The only girls/female monsters we know who was there in Hex's dimension are:

Ella
Aglaecwif
Nico
Nyx
Alexis
Alice
Laurie
Tiffany
Zara
Charlie
Jill

We can immediately remove Lexi, Alice, Laurie, Jill and possibly Aglaecwif. Since he sent Lexi flying, Jill already left via Nico and the other 3 were in the same location as him. That leaves Ella, Nico, Nyx, Zara, Tiffany and Charlie. Charlie could be an interesting one, especially with her implied connection to Shopkeep but Zara seems unlikely. Nico, Nyx, Tiffany and Ella are the next likely ones. We can probably remove Nico, since he wasn't really focused on her.

Now we're down to Ella, Nyx, Tiffany and Charlie. Besides Ella, these other three locations became completely unknown. But since he searched Goliath, I'm guessing they had to be connected to Ella in some capacity so Nyx and Tiffany are likely removed now too. That leaves Charlie and Ella.

So for me, I think it was Ella since when you narrow it all the way down while accounting for locations. He went immediately to Ella's Cave Room.
 

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Why would the "her" be Aglaecwif when she was still in the same cave the MC just left? He already knows Aglaecwif location because MC recently encountered her. If she left the cave afterwards, Goliath wouldn't know her new location since he was fighting Lexi the entire time. It seems to point to Ella because he immediately goes directly towards her after getting the info from Goliath.

We also have to look at Aglaecwif herself. We know she's a descendant of the 4th and has the Memory Trait. She also has the dark magic that's rare among even the monster race. The Memory Trait has no value, the MC already has it. The Dark Magic isn't really important for an Arbiter, who likely already mastered it. What other reason could he want with Aglaecwif? Could there be something unknown that we don't know about? Sure but he went towards Ella and Nico fight.

I'm not ruling out Aglaecwif completely, because it's still possible. The only girls/female monsters we know who was there in Hex's dimension are:

Ella
Aglaecwif
Nico
Nyx
Alexis
Alice
Laurie
Tiffany
Zara
Charlie
Jill

We can immediately remove Lexi, Alice, Laurie, Jill and possibly Aglaecwif. Since he sent Lexi flying, Jill already left via Nico and the other 3 were in the same location as him. That leaves Ella, Nico, Nyx, Zara, Tiffany and Charlie. Charlie could be an interesting one, especially with her implied connection to Shopkeep but Zara seems unlikely. Nico, Nyx, Tiffany and Ella are the next likely ones. We can probably remove Nico, since he wasn't really focused on her.

Now we're down to Ella, Nyx, Tiffany and Charlie. Besides Ella, these other three locations became completely unknown. But since he searched Goliath, I'm guessing they had to be connected to Ella in some capacity so Nyx and Tiffany are likely removed now too. That leaves Charlie and Ella.

So for me, I think it was Ella since when you narrow it all the way down while accounting for locations. He went immediately to Ella's Cave Room.
Charlie and Ella are interesting targets although I personally won't rule out Nico just because Arbiter's attention was drawn to Ella more and the only reason this way the case is simply because Ella spoke to him first and that MC had more familiarity to her than Nico (since MC knew her longer and heck Ella even said MC's name but he didn't recognize it but it was familiar much like Ella's face)
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Now this could be chalked up to the fact that she's his target but I'm more keen on the idea that its because Ella is more familiar, if we could get another bad ending with Arbiter MC and it was another person he was familiar with that'd just confirm it for certain.

In short, I think Nico is still a good possibility for a target and can't be ruled out so easily just because Arbiter was more familiar with Ella.
 

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In reference to Ella and Nico (both are 'perfect spawn' in his eyes so are they both equal to him in value for his needs?)
I think "perfected spawn" just refers to level 5 superhumans. Spawn seems to be the monster name for superhumans.

The Arbiter referring to Ella as a perfected spawn suggests it wasn't after her.
I suggest that the "her" it was seeking was Aglaecwif.
The eye searches for "their chosen".
"But I must, there is more I need to do here. Someone I need to see. Their chosen."
Aglaecwif refers to Ella as "chosen"
Female "I was tasked by that cruel woman, but after what she's dragged my children and I into... I'm in no rush to follow her commands. Even if she is chosen."
Additionally, the eye is sure that Goliath knows where this chosen is
"They're consumed and devoured, their bodies, their memories, surging through each tentacle up into my body, through my spine and into my skull."
You ".......They don't know? But wait... He does."
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"I look to the west, and see a colossal figure."
"A monstrous creature so large that its head is obscured from the clouds."
And once he consumes his memories, he goes straight to Ella.
From MC's fight with Deryl we can observe that they fight in different spots and if Goliath knew where Aglaecwif was, Eye would just go back to where MC fought Hydra Deryl, not in Ella's cave.

So I think that Aglaecwif is unlikely.

But could it be Ella? Due to her being referred to as chosen, and Eye looking for a chosen, it's likely, but we can't be sure.
The Eye says that Ella's "beautiful face" seems familiar. The "beautiful" part suggests that MC's memories and thoughts are mixed in a bit which means that it didn't recognize her from Goliath's memories.

So it's either that the method it used to get the memories was weaker than usual, since it decided to spare Goliath, or Ella is not really the target.

While it doesn't exactly fit, due to the reasons I explained, I still think that Ella is the more likely person to be the Eye's target.

A more complicated theory could be that Ella has something inside her that makes her special, perhaps some entity, and that's what the Eye is after. Perhaps that's the entity that Ella comunicates with, telling it to go back to sleep.

That entity could be the reason why monsters follow Ella. For some reason the Eye can't immediately see whatever it's looking for. Instead it only sees 2 level 5 spawn and tries to make sense of the scene.
 

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I personally thought that the arbiter was searching for the hearts, and the only person who knows the precise location of them would be ella, Because the arbiter notes getting back multiple somethings which coincides with the hearts, Ella resigns herself to being a failure whereas she notes in a deadend that the mc is perfect, but in the continuation she doesnt know that, so I think it would make sense if the hearts are meant to act as little batteries to boost the Arbiters power to its fullest under the assumption that the mc may not or will not be able to, and in the deadend he didnt as he was just, what a level three at that point? Additionally, despite having goliaths memory, the arbiter doesnt know who ella is at all aside from familiarity, if ella was who he was looking for why wouldnt he know who she is even if only through goliaths memory? .... though, thats all just my guess
 
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