VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[ItzSyther]

MC(in my case a good boy that tries to be a true hero) only gives them a good image if he isn't a murderhobo.
Nyx and Bernard are also making sure that H.E.R.O has an evil/brutal side. Nyx with her comment about mind control(Melody is quite on the nose for a siren like superhuman XD) and Bernard with his comments about traitors,humans and weaklings

Somethin tells me if ol Bern boi had his way and was in control of HERO he'd do some Stalin styled purges on those within HERO...to cull the weak and traitorous if you will.

 

[Litvenko]

Changelogs aren't amazingly usefull for this game since it's fairly linear. Anytime there's an update, it's not modifications to old stuff, it's the story going forward some more.
Changelogs would therefore basically either be "More story. That's it." or spoilers.

Nah, work was always busy for me so it will take me a long time to actually get to touch the games. That is why I love reading the Changelog, It left me to have a slight feeling of the game while I was waiting, and also hype me up and motivate me to finish shiets faster to really get to touch it.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I'm fully convinced MC's mom is human and is just a dumb bimbo (girls like her exist and they make me laugh).

Also its not out of the realm of possibility that HERO killed MC's mom since MC's dad has an affiliation to the govt and is known by higher ups. This is a group who has most def done a lot of fucked up shit I mean they outright yeet MC into space if he rejects working with them who knows how many others rejected their offer I can only be sure that those who did are dead or potentially worse things happened to em.

I mean thinking about it...what has SIN actually done that warrants 'evil' labeled onto them I mean yeah Ella's kids are assholes and outright murder a TV host...and Jared murders/tries to murder Laurie although in the case of Laurie she's from an opposing faction but fuck Jared (also Ella makes it kinda clear that she isn't apart of SIN? Does that apply to her kids too? seems like she's just using SIN for her own means so eh).

If anything I think HERO deserves that label since yah know... they have done eugenics the crème de la crème signature of evil in certain dystopian worlds and I don't care that it was for the greater good blah blah who knows what else those asshats did in their fucked experiments involving that so assassinations totally somethin they do.

Have you forgot that SIN is going around kidnapping and likely killing twins? Among those twins are children too by the way. HERO isn't perfect or "good" by any means but let's not turn into SIN simps.

 

[Lupusnox]

Others turn out to be completely off.
I'm still mad Charlie isn't the MC's sister. That would have been such a freaking baller plot-twist.

Imagine if Charlie's Criteria for her killer would be that her brother or someone she sees as familiy needs to kill her...If MC were truly her brother(I still think he should be her brother) that would be such an tragic yet poetic end for both

 

[Ddlc]

Trust me, we've had more unhinged theories on here. Especially me, DrakoGhoul and Dysphorika.

Edit because I'm stupid :
So, the MC does appear to be quite important for H.E.R.O. if you look at it. Thanks to him, they have a quite good image towards the public compared to what they'd have if they'd come out on their own, and not having to keep in the shadows made their recruitment increase manifolds.
I'd say he's definitely a must-have asset for them, and they show it : look at all the favors they do for him. Special treatment, an early role as special agent, monster material handgiven to boost his abilities, access to meetings of the top-brass, hell he can even ask them to protect his girlfriends...

I think this is specially true if you have a high public and government opinion, i think Amber mentioned last upedate that HERO was holding up because of Mc's influence, so i expect him to start waving around his galactic sized dong and make demands, i said it here before but i think Mc will be the determining factor on how HERO will continue from now on, maybe by siding with either Malik or Bernhardt.

I'm fully convinced MC's mom is human and is just a dumb bimbo (girls like her exist and they make me laugh).

Also its not out of the realm of possibility that HERO killed MC's mom since MC's dad has an affiliation to the govt and is known by higher ups. This is a group who has most def done a lot of fucked up shit I mean they outright yeet MC into space if he rejects working with them who knows how many others rejected their offer I can only be sure that those who did are dead or potentially worse things happened to em.

I mean thinking about it...what has SIN actually done that warrants 'evil' labeled onto them I mean yeah Ella's kids are assholes and outright murder a TV host...and Jared murders/tries to murder Laurie although in the case of Laurie she's from an opposing faction but fuck Jared (also Ella makes it kinda clear that she isn't apart of SIN? Does that apply to her kids too? seems like she's just using SIN for her own means so eh).

If anything I think HERO deserves that label since yah know... they have done eugenics the crème de la crème signature of evil in certain dystopian worlds and I don't care that it was for the greater good blah blah who knows what else those asshats did in their fucked experiments involving that so assassinations totally somethin they do.

I think HERO at least has the honest will to protect humanity from the monsters, SIN COULD MAYBE want monsters and humans to coexist but only if Ella was in charge, with Langdon though no way, that guy will drag dumb people who want to escape from fighting and make them his army.

 

[ItzSyther]

Have you forgot that SIN is going are kidnapping and likely killing twins? Among those twins are children too by the way. HERO isn't perfect or "good" by any means but let's not turn into SIN simps.

On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).

(I do wonder if HERO has done kidnapping of their own...probably but I doubt it was kids unless Deus saw that kid having a lot of potential later on).

 

[Rutonat]

Changelogs aren't amazingly usefull for this game since it's fairly linear. Anytime there's an update, it's not modifications to old stuff, it's the story going forward some more.
Changelogs would therefore basically either be "More story. That's it." or spoilers.

Nyx isn't evil, per say. She's more pragmatic, in a very emotionless way.
Bernhardt though would clearly fit the Lawful Evil. He's on the "side of good" but his methods are fucking inhumane, and he's compltely fine about it.

Nyx would be more of a Chaotic Good, in my opinion. They just overlap on small details, and her power to bring people back from death likely skewed shit about her perception.

Imagine if Charlie's Criteria for her killer would be that her brother or someone she sees as familiy needs to kill her...If MC were truly her brother(I still think he should be her brother) that would be such an tragic yet poetic end for both

Well back then, we knew little about the MC's past, so my theory was that she got told her brother was dead to get her to obey, but in reality the MC's mom didn't die and just left his dad. His ego took and hit so he used his son's trauma to make up that story that she died so he wouldn't look for her (as he himself was too angry against her), but she went on to live her life and had a daughter.

Though, the counter-argument about Oscar definitely was more sound, I was just choking on copium and hopium at the time.
Also I love the little bitch, always had a fondness for spunky little shits like her.

I think this is specially true if you have a high public and government opinion, i think Amber mentioned last upedate that HERO was holding up because of Mc's influence, so i expect him to start waving around his galactic sized dong and make demands, i said it here before but i think Mc will be the determining factor on how HERO will continue from now on, maybe by siding with either Malik or Bernhardt.

Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.

 

[Lupusnox]

On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).

SIN/Ella also freed Valravn. They also use a limited form of mind control thanks to Charlie and Zara and turn their people into meatbags so Langdon can posses them.
I also think we shouldn't consider Ella as part of S.I.N anymore at least not for now.
Her kids however, at least Cole seem to be a main pillar of support for S.I.N

 

[ItzSyther]

Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.

Now do correct me if I'm wrong HERO was always going to come out with or without MC during the events of the party and that giant fucking sword it basically exposed em.

Which makes me think if del never exposed MC they'd just find another shmuck to fill the same role MC did (basically pat up that fella's list of good or bad deeds to make HERO look good).

 

[Ddlc]

Yes but it still doens't change that the main motor of HE.E.R.O. coming out of the shadows and getting more recruits was because of the MC's image, good or bad. Even if he's a dick, that's still a move they made a profit out of, one way or the other, which serves them ultimately.
So if they deem those benefits worth it, making sure the MC takes the "right path" to get to them eventually would make a lot of sense.

Oh no, you misunderstand me, my comment was not about Mc acting like a dick (mine is a good boy) but about him having a galactic sized dick and waving it around, i have this image of him since one time when i wondered "Man, it wouldn't be good to grow Mc's dick to the size of a galaxy and hit Cole to the death with it ?.

 

[Rutonat]

Now do correct me if I'm wrong HERO was always going to come out with or without MC during the events of the party and that giant fucking sword it basically exposed em.

Which makes me think if del never exposed MC they'd just find another shmuck to fill the same role MC did (basically pat up that fella's list of good or bad deeds to make HERO look good).

They do mention (I think it was either Dexter or Xanthe) that the situation with the MC pushed their schedule forward by a lot, but they could use it to their advantage. But again, I'm working from memory, and as it showed multiple times already, my memory can be fucky at times.

 

[ItzSyther]

SIN/Ella also freed Valravn. They also use a limited form of mind control thanks to Charlie and Zara and turn their people into meatbags so Langdon can posses them.
I also think we shouldn't consider Ella as part of S.I.N anymore at least not for now.
Her kids however, at least Cole seem to be a main pillar of support for S.I.N

I'm just gonna assume Ella told her kids to 'support' SIN while she's gone or if something happened to her to continue her plan without her (in da case somethin went wrong) I'm still hesitant placing her kids in SIN's camp but rather its more like a partnership (since Ella wants those weird things that Charlie talks about this update so using SIN to find em is right up 'er alley).

 

[DrakoGhoul]

On god it slipped my mind (busy day) but kidnapping, even if its children barely blips on my mind as I'm scaling whom did worse between the 2 factions which at the moment scales heavily in HERO's favor I mean shit this update the fucking leadership was literally spit balling mind control and wiping out the weak in their group (im down for stalin styled purges btw).

No simping for SIN of course they have and most likely will do some more bad shit way worse then kidnapping a buncha twins (and kids at that).

(I do wonder if HERO has done kidnapping of their own...probably but I doubt it was kids unless Deus saw that kid having a lot of potential later on).

So them kidnapping 6 year old twins and turning them into Superhumans, which has an even lower survivability rate is cool with you? SIN actually did this by the way and likely did it with other children along the way.

Don't get me wrong, I've said it in after playing this update that HERO is fucked up for trying to copy Ella, especially Nyx for even suggesting mind control. Luckily, Malik was still against it and Zack said nah and that they should stay the course but still make those who can fight, fight. Even Bernhardt was like no. Nyx was crazy as hell for trying to suggest they do the same as Ella. Which also added more fuel for the Ella and Nyx working together theory out there.

 

[Rutonat]

Oh no, you misunderstand me, my comment was not about Mc acting like a dick (mine is a good boy) but about him having a galactic sized dick and waving it around, i have this image of him since one time when i wondered "Man, it wouldn't be good to grow Mc's dick to the size of a galaxy and hit Cole to the death with it ?.

Then you lost me, I'll have to admit.
I'm completely lost on what the hell you're trying to explain (english isn't my native language so sometimes it's hard for me).

 

[Lupusnox]

Speaking of Nyx(I also think she works with Ella):
What exactly was her goal in luring out the apostles? Does she want to make a deal with them? Devour their hulls?

 

[ItzSyther]

So them kidnapping 6 year old twins and turning them into Superhumans, which has an even lower survivability rate is cool with you? SIN actually did this by the way and likely did it with other children along the way.

Don't get me wrong, I've said it in after playing this update that HERO is fucked up for trying to copy Ella, especially Nyx for even suggesting mind control. Luckily, Malik was still against it and Zack said nah and that they should stay the course but still make those who can fight, fight. Even Bernhardt was like no. Nyx was crazy as hell for trying to suggest they do the same as Ella. Which also added more fuel for the Ella and Nyx working together theory out there.

I never said it was cool, I just said it doesn't blip on my radar in comparison to what HERO has done which they were quite open about btw.

Also via this update we learn that those who undergo the superhuman process (at least in SIN's camp) I believe have a higher rate of survival in comparison to those in the HERO camp.

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But in any case kidnapping isn't cool especially if those being kidnapped do not have a high rate of survival but at the same time you must compare what the other side has done as well, which HERO has done a lot of bad (and it shouldn't be ignored cause 'greater good' on some villain shit) but at the same time they've done some good as well (ya know protecting humanity).

If we ignore the kidnapping and Ella's kids antics SIN hasn't done much of anything of note, as I've said prior I don't place Ella's kids in the SIN camp they are partners I imagine until Ella achieves whatever she is after (collectin those weird things)

In an unrelated note I fear for those who are level 1 and 2 in the HERO camp (of course it all depends how things go down next update) but if SIN does recruit former soldiers and the like weaker HERO members are gonna have a hard time like as we saw in this update when that girl refused to fight.

 

[Ddlc]

Then you lost me, I'll have to admit.
I'm completely lost on what the hell you're trying to explain (english isn't my native language so sometimes it's hard for me).

Don't worry english is also not my first language so i don't even know half of the time if what i say makes any sense .

I said "wave his dick around" as a metaphor to "power move", and included "galactic sized dick" because i have this ridiculous mental image of Mc swinging his dick around hitting Cole, my brain clearly is not normal .

 

[Rutonat]

my brain clearly is not normal .

You're talking to someone who wants Mia to join the harem, made Demi a trap, prefered the prisoner before transforming them into a woman, and so far only had issues in this game with the Ella ear-fucking and the face-hugger sex scenes.

We have a self-made high priest(ess?) who want to clap a dog.

Your brain's fine.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Speaking of Nyx(I also think she works with Ella):
What exactly was her goal in luring out the apostles? Does she want to make a deal with them? Devour their hulls?

Nyx didn't set up that experiment, that was Xanthe. It's what she did with the MC leading into it that raised flags, at least for me. From her question she asked the MC suddenly to telling him to join in on it out of the blue. That really did feel like she was baiting some reaction out.

They likely know the MC is also an Apostle Spawn from his inspection by Sharon. Then there's the fact that he has two different traits. Something they didn't make a big deal about at first but that likely changed now.

 

[Ddlc]

You're talking to someone who wants Mia to join the harem, made Demi a trap, prefered the prisoner before transforming them into a woman, and so far only had issues in this game with the Ella ear-fucking and the face-hugger sex scenes.

We have a self-made high priest(ess?) who want to clap a dog.

Your brain's fine.

Thank you my dude, is nice to feel accepted .