Papa Syther has a 'fight' he'd like to have others weigh their opinions on:
Level 1 Jake vs Demi
Both have quite similar powers but would Jake even have an affect on Demi? I thought about what if her powers could nullify the effect of Jake's if used against her or if she was in range of another person who was a target of his power.
In a straight fist fight I'm pretty sure a coward like Jake could score a win against Demi although with her size she I'm sure she could dodge those attacks but ultimately a Jake victory (she'll either tire herself out or mess up and Jake lands a blow).
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But in a fight with powers idk (I'd like to see Demi some more in game and using her powers, would be cool if she could nullify the effects Jake has).
Interesting question. Depending on the environment the fight will look different.
Setting the stage:
We will have to assume that both will be at about an equal power level. Jake has better compatibility than Demi and he is likely to be way more powerful than her but I will ignore this for now because I want to compare powers.
The fight will look vastly different depending on if it's a crowded place or they fight in isolation. So I will draw scenarios for both cases.
Both will want to win and work to that end. I'm not going to take their respective personallities into account.
Some premises about Jake:
Jake has offensive power by commanding his target to hurt himself.
Jake's offensive commands are easier to resist than his more utility/control based commands.
Jake is better at commanding a single opponent at a time. As a level 1 he doesn't have the imprint ability.
Jake's defensive power works by making the target subconsciously avoiding to harm him if possible.
Some premises about Demi
Demi lacks any offensive power whatsoever, at best she can trick her enemy to drop off a cliff chasing a winning lottery ticket or something.
Demi is better at calling allies to her side than Jake is. That's the main expression of her power as shown to us.
Demi's defensive power works by making the target not wanting to go against her wishes and not wanting to harm her in the first place.
Isolated place fight:
This will be the most boring fight in existence.
Since Demi lacks an offensive power, her best course of action is either mental dominance of trickery. So she will either try to make him surrender by going heavy on her "charm" ability and hoping that Jake will like her so much he will surrender by himself, or she will use her illusion powers to give him something else to do instead of fighting.
Jake on the other hand is unlikely that will try to harm her, at least at the start of the fight, thanks to her charm ability. But he can just ask her to surrender, which doesn't harm her directly so it's easier to take hold.
At the very beginning of the fight, Demi has the edge because Jake needs to voice the command, while Demi doesn't need time to become more charming. So if Demi is to win this, it will happen in a second. If she fails to do that, then they will be locked into a "you surrender, no you surrender" fight, that will whittle down both their powers. At 0 power, Jake has the obvious edge by beating Demi with his fists since he is 3 times her size.
So the tldr version is: If Demi doesn't instantly win, the fight goes absolutely in Jake's favor. The chances of Demi winning are abysmal, but it can happen. Demi's win will be Jake surrendering or leaving, she can't harm him in any shape or form.
Crowded place fight:
This will be more interesting, and a possible result is that they will both die from exhaustion ^_^. The result will depend on Demi's power efficiency as she obviously has the initiative here. The best course of action is to use a high risk strategy of pulling bystanders to fight for her. Her effect is area based, while Jake will have to command each person in isolation. Jake doesn't have the option of turning Demi's allies on her, it will take too long.
Demi has an obvious choice here, and that's upping the charm. Everyone in proximity will want to help her, and they will all go after Jake. However this will exhaust her. The question is if it's possible for her to maintain the charm while resisting one or two commands from Jake. If yes, then Jake is in HUGE trouble because he will be flooded by a horde of people wanting to kill him, his defensive powers will work overtime and his commands will lose potency. In that scenario Demi wins. If Demi gets exhausted doing that, Jake's command will take hold and he can do whatever he wants.
Jake may be able to use an "All of you do X" command, but it will probably exhaust him too and in that scenario Demi seems to have an edge because her powers are more suited in making people love her. People will probably resist Jake's powers harder than Demi's.
Result:
All in all, Jake has the better chances of winning thanks to having more balanced abilities than Demi. However Demi has a fighting chance. If they fight 100 times, I expect Jake to win the majority of the fights.
