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Like, I'm surprised he hasn't considered adding porcupine quills into his armor or just spikes in general and make them 'lethal' as well by including the jellyfish venom in em (to conserve energy he can just not use the venom unless necessary).

Mind you that idea above is in reference to his first initial base armor (which needs an improvement imo)
Shitttt it could have an added offense to it and launch the quills in all directions too.
 
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All imma add is I think Mc would reach that peak of beating A Class monster atleast some types of them in few months due to favorable matchups also I think th rate of growth in power per week can be a lot faster than 15-20 atleast from last update.Overall I am excited as hell wanna watch Level 3 mc decimate an A class without help View attachment 2932876
One thing to remember is that MC didn't get any power gains during the week after the battle. So in "gametime" (meaning ignoring any time lapses), you need to half whatever he gained in the last update to get the accurate result.

Of course that may change in the future. I have calculated a ~3x increase in improvement rate that currently seems to hold true.
14 power in 42 days = 0.33 power per day
66 power in 58 days = 1.13 power per day
33 power in 12 days = 2.75 power per day

These are without counting the shopkeep items like horn and the latest update goods.

Well said.

Now I have a question for you.

Do you think the MC should expand upon his current 'defense'

I like what he has thus far with his armor(s) but I believe he could improve them further or even add things he didn't think of before.

Like, I'm surprised he hasn't considered adding porcupine quills into his armor or just spikes in general and make them 'lethal' as well by including the jellyfish venom in em (to conserve energy he can just not use the venom unless necessary).

Mind you that idea above is in reference to his first initial base armor (which needs an improvement imo)
I wanted to make a post about possible avenues of improvement but there are a few "issues" that give me some trouble.

1) Quils:
The problem I have with this upgrade is that it's of the "win more" kind. Swarms of lower class monsters can't punch through his plate armor anymore, so having an efficient way to kill them en masse seems excessive. His autonomous tails can make short work of them. His true problem always have been massed ranged attackers and at this point I think that a very long weapon like that scythe would be a better solution. Another obvious way to fight would be to burrow underground and use his tails to kill them from below. He should have enough power to punch through any terrain.

2) Poisons:
MC's offensive power seems to be more than adequate to easily kill B Class and level 3s. Perhaps he may face some trouble against more defensive oriented ones, but at this point, I doubt that the natural poison will be enough. If he could find some more interesting monster poisons and delivered them through his weapon attacks, that would probably work wonders against tough bastards like the Asura or Monster Deryl. Additionally he could reinforce his plate armor with poisoned spikes but for offensive purposes, not defensive (toxic body slams for example).

3) Wings:
MC's wings are cool but squishy as fuck and not very interesting in a fight. If he could reinforce them somehow he could add 2 more blades with good reach. He also wouldn't lose them on the faintest elemental attack. The question is if he can find some balance to have both reinforced monster plate wings and being able to fly. MC seems to hover, but it's not confirmed in the game.

4) Spiked Shield:
As a level 2, MC used his mace arms a lot. I think he would be better served by going weapon+shield instead of dual wielding. A shield could buy him more time to read memories and formulate tactics. It could also be used with lighter armors if needed.

5) Extra hands:
I think MC should learn how to fight with more hands than 2. Coordination may be a bitch, but a Mantis salvo from 4/6 hands should increase his offense significantly and wielding more blades can also increase his parrying defense against other melee fighters.
 

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5) Extra hands:
I think MC should learn how to fight with more hands than 2. Coordination may be a bitch, but a Mantis salvo from 4/6 hands should increase his offense significantly and wielding more blades can also increase his parrying defense against other melee fighters.
Shitttt if you recall the fight scene with all of Jake's indoctrinated guards MC can outright snatch all their guns and go fucking berserk with em...very amazing scene.
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I wish MC would utilize this more with his hands and not just with Swords.

MC could multitask that shit with a variety of weapons.

MC could also make a double of himself yeah? I imagine it wont last long/takes too much energy but would be cool if the double could utilize the powers of MC as well (imagine the MC going on defense while the double goes on offense...would be so cool)
 

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Shitttt if you recall the fight scene with all of Jake's indoctrinated guards MC can outright snatch all their guns and go fucking berserk with em...very amazing scene.
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I wish MC would utilize this more with his hands and not just with Swords.

MC could multitask that shit with a variety of weapons.

MC could also make a double of himself yeah? I imagine it wont last long/takes too much energy but would be cool if the double could utilize the powers of MC as well (imagine the MC going on defense while the double goes on offense...would be so cool)
There exist some potential for gun-like weapons with a mantis mechanism, turning MC into a pistollero or something, but I think he will always favor his tails at that range :/
 

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There exist some potential for gun-like weapons with a mantis mechanism, turning MC into a pistollero or something, but I think he will always favor his tails at that range :/
Oh most def.

I'm very excited to see if he ever becomes 'living armor' for an ally I recall I believe DrakoGhoul talkin bout that once.

Would be very great for our non-armored allies and could make potential future allies even more OP.

Deryl as example who floated the idea of making a literal gundam. MC plops himself on that is finna make it one strong boyo on top of whatever Deryl did to it.
 

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Okay with the recent talk of the cursed "Bad News devlog" (and speculation of possible delays), I want to ask an important plot-related question to you guys, to pass the time.

If teams are gonna play a major role in the story and you had to pick between joining one or something else, what would you choose?

a) Stay an Independent agent
b) Make your own team (either with Michael, Alice, Deryl, plus someone else possibly or with completely new Superhumans)
c) Join Team Lucifer (The most obvious choice, we are involved with so many of their members even prior to joining H.E.R.O.)
d) Join Team Clthulhu (The 2nd obvious choice with a lot of interesting and some of the strongest Superhumans on this team)
e) Join Team Oberon (An interesting choice, not much to go by besides melody and Lucius)
f) Join Team Reaper (Nyx has an interesting background and powers, her lieutenants... not so much)
g) Join Team Kronos (By far the Most interesting and Mysterious team with only some snippets about their Feats so far [The monster that Zack fought, The Power Negation Monster that one of their members caught that was used to make the Monster Containment Cells]
If there is a choice to go lonesome road and fuck over everyone
That one.
S.I.N can get destroyed for all i care and H.E.R.O are restraining superhuman's freedom so far.
Ulysses may have given us only two choices, but fuck if i don't convince him to press both buttons
 

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Okay with the recent talk of the cursed "Bad News devlog" (and speculation of possible delays), I want to ask an important plot-related question to you guys, to pass the time.

If teams are gonna play a major role in the story and you had to pick between joining one or something else, what would you choose?

a) Stay an Independent agent
b) Make your own team (either with Michael, Alice, Deryl, plus someone else possibly or with completely new Superhumans)
c) Join Team Lucifer (The most obvious choice, we are involved with so many of their members even prior to joining H.E.R.O.)
d) Join Team Clthulhu (The 2nd obvious choice with a lot of interesting and some of the strongest Superhumans on this team)
e) Join Team Oberon (An interesting choice, not much to go by besides melody and Lucius)
f) Join Team Reaper (Nyx has an interesting background and powers, her lieutenants... not so much)
g) Join Team Kronos (By far the Most interesting and Mysterious team with only some snippets about their Feats so far [The monster that Zack fought, The Power Negation Monster that one of their members caught that was used to make the Monster Containment Cells]
Were there any mentions of existing team members being transferred or something like that? Would be nice to join Nyx and bring Alice and maybe someone else along. I'm always expecting Michael to be a turncoat because of his hunger for power but it never happens, but if it did then it would play a role in team composition as well.
 
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If there is a choice to go lonesome road and fuck over everyone
That one.
S.I.N can get destroyed for all i care and H.E.R.O are restraining superhuman's freedom so far.
Ulysses may have given us only two choices, but fuck if i don't convince him to press both buttons
there isn't but i should add that, it seems like a viable choice.
 
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wham hello, I was wondering, for your MC's in your own personal saves; What is the highest power you've managed to attain as of .96? I know the conversation with the ranking system is over, but I'd like to say I don't think Valravn could be considered an S rank even at peak strength. If I'm remembering correctly it took Cole and two other members from S.I.N to take down Valravn enough to make his strength dampened to what it was. So possibly I believe he's an A rank at the most since HERO also didn't feel too pressured about sending a level 5 in the battle as well, even if they knew he was weakened, I don't think an organization as methodical as HERO would take the chance.
 
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wham hello, I was wondering, for your MC's in your own personal saves; What is the highest power you've managed to attain as of .96? I know the conversation with the ranking system is over, but I'd like to say I don't think Valravn could be considered an S rank even at peak strength. If I'm remembering correctly it took Cole and two other members from S.I.N to take down Valravn enough to make his strength dampened to what it was. So possibly I believe he's an A rank at the most since HERO also didn't feel too pressured about sending a level 5 in the battle as well, even if they knew he was weakened, I don't think an organization as methodical as HERO would take the chance.
It took ella to take him down, Cole and two other members of Ella's faction (not S.I.N. , don't confuse the two) did nothing but practially annoyed him and he was heavily weakened even when they all fought him (he had just lost his heart).
He was greviously injured when The Main Character decided to fight him plus he didn't even die, just incapacitated.

[just asked PP, Max power you can get is 359]
 
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It took ella to take him down, Cole and two other members of Ella's faction (not S.I.N. , don't confuse the two) did nothing but practially annoyed him and he was heavily weakened even when they all fought him (he had just lost his heart).
He was greviously injured when The Main Character decided to fight him plus he didn't even die, just incapacitated.
The I am wrong! He could have quite possibly been an S rank at peak, I must've forgotten the snibbit of dialogue where they spoke about Ella having to step in.
 
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don't worry, it happens to the best of us (especially the best of us). its just a couple snippets of dialogue, easy to miss.
I'll have to rerun the game in the coming update to make sure the noggin ain't loose, actually do you know if WW has any plans of going onto steam? I feel like they're waiting for the game to be done but I've also never seen them talk about it (I'm currently not a patron though so maybe they have)
 
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I'll have to rerun the game in the coming update to make sure the noggin ain't loose, actually do you know if WW has any plans of going onto steam? I feel like they're waiting for the game to be done but I've also never seen them talk about it (I'm currently not a patron though so maybe they have)
not that i know of, no i don't think he is moving to steam (maybe post 1.0 but who knows).
 
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not that i know of, no i don't think he is moving to steam (maybe post 1.0 but who knows).
Epic, I was just curious if it has been spoken around here or not. Also! Thanks for the update on the max power on the current update, I thought 347 was the max but I was wrong, I haven't used the Walkthrough before but I shall now so I'll begone for the day! Thank you again.
 

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It took ella to take him down, Cole and two other members of Ella's faction (not S.I.N. , don't confuse the two) did nothing but practially annoyed him and he was heavily weakened even when they all fought him (he had just lost his heart).
He was greviously injured when The Main Character decided to fight him plus he didn't even die, just incapacitated.

[just asked PP, Max power you can get is 359]
I think it's more than that. 363.
The highest MC can reach before evolving is 115.
73 up till the Mall (perhaps I will edit this post later to do a full breakdown)
10 (83) from horn
1 (84) from beating Laurie correctly
1 (85) from reaching day 89
1 (86) from beating Tiff correctly
1 (87) reaching day 95
1 (88) Laurie side quest
1 (89) Train with Michael side quest
1 (90) Random power up during Alice side quest
15 (105) final stretch before Diamond Battle

During diamond battle you have 2 options
Learn how light power works | +5 power / +3 skill (110)
Aglaecwif choose strength | Choose + 10 power (115)

So the highest power you can get before the latest update, is 115 + 200 from evolution = 315
The latest update can give you up to 48 power.
10 from training 1
3 from training 2
10 from asura
10 from not being detected during infiltration
10 from shopkeep monster item
5 from shopkeep monster item

So highest possible power after the latest update is 315 + 48 = 363
 

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Thoughts?
Rank and class mean effectively the same thing, as stated by the teacher.
Specifically, "rank" is assigned to the mission, and "class" to the monster.
A C-Rank mission will always be targeting a C-Class monster.
Classification is based on "strength compared to other monsters".
This seems to correlate directly to their "Power" statistic.

As rated by WW himself in monster reports, Valravn when fought is C+, Minyaks are D-Class, Leigong is C-class.
Deryl's chimeras are both C-Class, and the main one was C+, though it may have been B proper after its "evolution."
The +/- are noted to be as powerful as another monster in their class, but as dangerous as a class above or below.
For example, Valravn effectively has the power stores of a C class, but the danger level of a B class when MC fights him.

A brief comment on the Asura-
I am disappointed the scythe did not see use, it would have been interesting to see how effective it would've been.
 
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