Shen Long Jiang

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Loved this game so much that I decided to make an account to join in on the discussion.

After reading many opinions regarding Laurie, I'd like to share my view as well (not that it should outweigh anyone else's):

1. Laurie as a character in the "world" of superhuman:

Laurie was depicted, at first, as a "soldier" of HERO, with a helmet on (together with Del), like it was some sort of "uniform", which sort of was. And as the story went on, the mc began to interact with Laurie more, and more details of Laurie were revealed to us (we didn't even get to see her face at first).

However, through and through, Laurie remained an "average" soldier of HERO, one that is not completely garbage (excuse my language), but also is not extraordinary in any way either, even until her death at the hand of Jared (or ending up in a coma due to her injury).

Through her role as an "average" soldier of HERO, we saw a progression of mindset development. She killled monsters (because she was ordered to), and tracked down Ella (because she was ordered to), and made friends with another soldier, who died at the hands of Jake and Ella. We saw a whole saga of basically "enlisting in HERO as an average soldier". In a sense, we saw the perspective of Laurie, the average soldier, in HERO, but something did change towards the very end (just very slightly) when she confronted herself, and aided Alice to take down Deryl's chimera.

It was at that point in time that Laurie changed from a soldier "following orders", to one that actively fought for Alice, and later Del (it could be argued that she would fight for her dead ally - killed by Jake - as well). In a sense, she developed a "sense of justice", instead of running and doing everything she can to survive, like an "average" soldier.

The character of Laurie sort of represents a perspective from someone lesser, and their struggle to survive in this world, which is quite crucial for storytelling, but her role as the "average" soldier has probably ended, since it would not make sense to keep this storyline going, now that everyone's been familiarized with how HERO operates, at least on the suffice level.

If the Laurie character were to be "continued", her being an "average" soldier would be extremely stale (overused I might say), so she would have to develop some sort of "rise to power" and overcome her "average" category; otherwise, there would be no point to her character anymore (as in discontinued, Laurie will probably be sidelined).

2. Laurie's influence on the main cast:

Basically she assisted Alice in her "awakening", or evolution, and fought alongside her. Alice could bring her along for future monster hunting, but I don't see it happening, as she has only ever interacted with Michael, or MC. I mean she didn't even blink when Laurie's neck got busted by Jared.

Laurie was also Del's partner for a long time, which continues living on in Deryl, so there could be something going on there, if Deryl wishes to keep Laurie by his side, which is also unlikely, if I'm being honest.

Laurie struggled with her hatred for Jake (at least before the Rebis Incarnation battle), and probably will carry on her vengeful mindset for Jake long after. Maybe the MC could change her mind, but it wouldn't be easy. Frankly, I don't think Laurie would be able to touch Jake at all, so her unfortunate tragedy probably only serves as a struggle of the "average", more so depicting how "power" basically facilitates everything in this world, and the lack of "power" would mean everything becomes a luxury, even one's own feelings. If Bernardt, for example, was angry at someone, he could probably kill them with a snap of his finger, but Laurie? Her mortal enemy could be in front of her but she would remain powerless.

Lastly, and most importantly, imo, is Laurie's death affecting Deryl. Regardless if she dies or not, Deryl would be putting a huge emphasis on improving his "elixir" ability to "heal", rather than to "destroy" as he has always been using his power to do, to make sure none of his friends would die in front of him (or at least that's how I assumed Deryl's mindset would changed after Laurie's death).

And if you, the player, manage to save Laurie, the MC would learn the "body preservation" technique that Ella used to immune physical damage of Malik, and Deryl would learn the "elixir restoration" technique that basically "healed" Laurie's butchered neck, blood vessels, spine, brain stem, etc. This could be extremely important to the story, or maybe both MC and Deryl would learn these techniques eventually (actually, maybe "saving Laurie" was only a "side effect" of learning these techniques).

In conclusion: Laurie will probably be discontinued, or her appearance would only be few and maybe for comedic purposes only, unless she somehow unlocks some crazy potential and goes monster mode (corruption) and eats Jake, and gains Authority, and somehow eats Michael as well to gain Power, and becomes the final boss...

On a side note, Laurie was a really good character imo, as she represented a different perspective, one that was much needed, and she served that role very well. It was sort of like if you were to be trans-migrated into this "Weird" World (ha!), would you do better than Laurie, without all the information available to you at a click of a button?
 

jjtom000

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It could, but I have a few objections.
1) Can anyone really claim to have more genetic compatibility than MC who is literally connected to an Arbiter?
Maybe Alice, MC mentioned that Alice was much stronger and had a much higher cap of power than him in lv1.

Also the fact that the 6th deem her so promising he basically went out and tell her to kill his son and become his heir despite her not being the first gen lol.

It all points toward that Alice has near perfect compatibility to her monster parent.

Typing this also reminded me the Alice vs Danica argument I saw here a few months ago and I wanna give my two cents. (idgaf I'm late to the party, just ignore me lol)

I actually think Alice has a pretty decent chance beating Danica despite being a lv2, and Alice is probably one of if not the strongest lv2 in Hero's record:

1. She has near perfect compatibility as a apostle spawn(full trait inherited from a first gen so it still counts) and had shown higher growth than even the Mc at the same lv

2. Power growth in lv2 evo was amp by Clark lv5 power as stated in game

3. Completely demolished a monster that has 100 power in her evolution trace.

4. Skill lv close to Michael

while on the other hand, Danica is probably one of the weakest lv3 even though she got a dangerous power, due to:

1. Low power growth, only has 22 power despite being a lv 2 for almost two years, her growth from lv 3 evo should be nowhere near MC and other apostle spawn.

2. Ridiculously low skill, can you believe she only has 2 skill despite being a professional assassin? It's way less than a retarded Oscar and Klaus lmfao.

3. Being a one trick pony, her one shot move becomes significantly less dangerous if her opponent got intels of her power


So all in all, the power difference between a lv2 Alice and a lv3 Danica maybe highly exaggerated by some. With the massive skills and combat experiences advantages, combined with the fact that Alice got intels on Danica's power thank to MC ,its quite possible that Alice can overcome the disadvantage in raw power and be one of the very few people who could pull off this feat.
 
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jjtom000

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Wait at least 3-4 months

Where they were better? Sister is no match for MC and Brother has inconvenient powers for MC
They are not better than MC.

Sister power got hard-counter by MC and will get beat decisively one on one.

While brother power is deadly to any other but is much less effective to MC's regeneration and every hit just made him closer to getting his weakness figured out, not to mention he has big mobility disadvantage against MC as he can't fly.

One on one, I would say MC beat them 9/10. One on two, MC could still fight somewhat evenly and it will be a protracted fight as shown in the game.

But it doesn't matter after all because of the existence of Shen, even MC had deryl help to gang up on him it will be a difficult fight, not to mention the twins.
 

jjtom000

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I don't think Deryl would just got one tap like that, everyone is working hard after the battle of diamond. Just like MC was working on his memory ability, deryl must had been cooking something. He will be back next update we don't need to worry.

Btw this is the first game I can't resist to join the discussion after I created this account for 3 years.
The plot of this game is just amazing and outright addictive, good job WW.
 

jjtom000

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Wasn't it said in dead end that Deus is not a spawn but just a human?

Meanwhile, do we know what Ellas' power of knowing (or seeing?) shit come from? Doesn't seem like something that could come from 3rd.
Deus got power, when Deus gave the heart back to Valravn, it mentioned that Deus's power is like a drop of water in ocean(different words but had similar meaning) compare to other lv5.

So maybe Deus got so little power that lv5 MC mistook him as human. But that doesn't explain how Deus beat the lv5 MC tho, I suspect Deus's power work completely differently than other sups, for all we know he might be a lv1 or not your ordinary superhuman at all, there is some serious fuckery going on with him.

For Ella's seeing ability, I think she just put her 'eyes' and 'ears' on her pets using the power she taught us in this update.

During the orphanage scene, I already suspect that she has means to remotely control her power, as it was shown that MC would get forced to fight back the hobo if he chose not to intervene despite Ella not in the vicinity, and this update just prove that.
 
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TerminusPrime

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Deus got power, when Deus gave the heart back to Valravn, it mentioned that Deus's power is like a drop of water in ocean(different words but had similar meaning) compare to other lv5.

So maybe Deus got so little power that lv5 MC mistook him as human. But that doesn't explain how Deus beat the lv5 MC tho, I suspect Deus's power work completely differently than other sups, for all we know he might be a lv1 or not your ordinary superhuman at all, there is some serious fuckery going on with him.

For Ella's seeing ability, I think she just put her 'eyes' and 'ears' on her pets using the power she taught us in this update.

During the orphanage scene, I already suspect that she has means to remotely control her power, as it was shown that MC would get forced to fight back the hobo if he chose not to intervene despite Ella not in the vicinity, and this update just prove that.
Ella's seeing ability comes from her eyes. Just like the MC felt his power in his spine, focused on the base with his tails and on at the base of his skull, which likely enhances his memory echo, Ella's power is focused in her eyes.
She has the ability to look at somebody and see how physically and mentally compatible they are with a monster infection, and which monster would be best for them, and she can see power levels of superhumans like SIN's goggles did.
Ella also doesn't have any mind control powers to force MC to act at the orphanage. The MC getting forced to help with the kids is more likely related to his time at the clinic after his mom died and his lost memories of Ella from his childhood.
 
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How can I open these closed scenes?
First pic
6th slot:
In the latest update you have to solve the murder mystery correctly. (Keep the blade, Take piece of brains, Ask Brianna for Help, Catch the landlord's lie). If you have an active romance with Brianna you will get the scene.

Second pic
1st slot:
Futa version of FMC content

2nd slot:
Go to the fraternity party as female, only available if you prioritize the cheerleader route. Tess will invite you in a room.

3rd slot:
Go to the fraternity party as female (futa version), only available if you prioritize the cheerleader route. Tess will invite you in a room.

6th slot:
Futa version of FMC content

Third pic
Both pics are Demi's trap route. Demi's gender depends on player's choice. When first meeting Demi chose "Boy?".

Fourth pic
Second row: I don't know that one, haven't unlocked it myself.

Third row: During MC's time in prison, if his relationship score with Jake is low, he will force MC to shoot himself. MC will go to the morgue to do his experiments and you can choose to tittyfuck the test corpse.

Fifth pic:
First row: The finalle of Liz's NTR route. Odd that you haven't yet unlocked it, I don't think it has any requirements.

Second row: I don't know that one.

Sixth pic:
Haven't unlocked these myself but they look like SIN Infiltration content.
 

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I think the war in Eastern Europe can provide the creators with much material ideas for fighting. War in Middle East also. And the coming war in Asia is a hugh pool of footages and statistics for creative minds.
 

jjtom000

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Ella's seeing ability comes from her eyes. Just like the MC felt his power in his spine, focused on the base with his tails and on at the base of his skull, which likely enhances his memory echo, Ella's power is focused in her eyes.
She has the ability to look at somebody and see how physically and mentally compatible they are with a monster infection, and which monster would be best for them, and she can see power levels of superhumans like SIN's goggles did.
Ella also doesn't have any mind control powers to force MC to act at the orphanage. The MC getting forced to help with the kids is more likely related to his time at the clinic after his mom died and his lost memories of Ella from his childhood.
The "seeing" ability I was referring to is that Ella seems to know information she doesn't suppose to as if she existed in different places at the same time, this "seeing" ability was hinted by Jake and Ella herself a few time.

About the orphanage scene, I think the wording made it pretty clear that it's due to outside force more than MC's.

Also the fact that if MC chose not to intervene, Ella's point to MC will decrease by 1 basically confirm that.

I mean, why would her point to MC decrease when MC just "chose to" save the kids ?

The only explanation is that she knew MC actually didn't want to intervene and had to force MC to do it herself. IMG_3124.png
 
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bloodaxis

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The "seeing" ability I was referring to is that Ella seems to know information she doesn't suppose to as if she existed in different places at the same time, this "seeing" ability was hinted by Jake and Ella herself a few time.

About the orphanage scene, I think the wording made it pretty clear that it's due to outside force more than MC's.

Also the fact that if MC chose not to intervene, Ella's point to MC will decrease by 1 basically confirm that.

I mean, why would her point to MC decrease when MC just "chose to" save the kids ?

The only explanation is that she knew MC actually didn't want to intervene and had to force MC to do it herself. View attachment 3092929
Yeah she most probably splits parts of herself off to keep track of people, and in this case she used that part of herself to physically move our arm to deal with the homeless man, I highly doubt she could read our mind to know we weren't going to deal with him however. Probably were just taking too long for her liking. We already know she's capable of having parts of her live outside of her main body, so it stands to reason that she could create something capable of both seeing and exerting itself physically, especially if she's nearby.
 

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First pic
6th slot:
In the latest update you have to solve the murder mystery correctly. (Keep the blade, Take piece of brains, Ask Brianna for Help, Catch the landlord's lie). If you have an active romance with Brianna you will get the scene.

Second pic
1st slot:
Futa version of FMC content

2nd slot:
Go to the fraternity party as female, only available if you prioritize the cheerleader route. Tess will invite you in a room.

3rd slot:
Go to the fraternity party as female (futa version), only available if you prioritize the cheerleader route. Tess will invite you in a room.

6th slot:
Futa version of FMC content

Third pic
Both pics are Demi's trap route. Demi's gender depends on player's choice. When first meeting Demi chose "Boy?".

Fourth pic
Second row: I don't know that one, haven't unlocked it myself.

Third row: During MC's time in prison, if his relationship score with Jake is low, he will force MC to shoot himself. MC will go to the morgue to do his experiments and you can choose to tittyfuck the test corpse.

Fifth pic:
First row: The finalle of Liz's NTR route. Odd that you haven't yet unlocked it, I don't think it has any requirements.

Second row: I don't know that one.

Sixth pic:
Haven't unlocked these myself but they look like SIN Infiltration content.
thank you so much for helping
 

jjtom000

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Yeah she most probably splits parts of herself off to keep track of people, and in this case she used that part of herself to physically move our arm to deal with the homeless man, I highly doubt she could read our mind to know we weren't going to deal with him however. Probably were just taking too long for her liking. We already know she's capable of having parts of her live outside of her main body, so it stands to reason that she could create something capable of both seeing and exerting itself physically, especially if she's nearby.
I mean she didn't need to have mind-reading ability to know MC's intention when MC literally steps aside and lets the hobo threaten the kids, that's why the 1 point decreases to MC.
 
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