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Dipasimaan

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What about the 5(? think that was the number) arbiters?
No they're presumably six and yeah they're higher in terms of power and gerarchy than the apostles so the gerarchy will be
1. Arbiters
2. Apostles
3. Level 5 superhumans
4. S rank monsters
5. the rest

But I must say that the lv 5 superhumans and s rank monsters should be on the same spot considering that in a battle the compatibility of their powers matters very much and that a level 5 is of course a menace to humanity but it will become a total menace to all of the monsters only if he got at least a little bit of experience
 

Dipasimaan

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They are supposed to be 6, 1 for each Apostle pair. If I had to guess I'd say that Arbiters are (way) stronger than Apostles, since they are supposed to be their fathers, and there are some serious indications that they have created the universe.

However I'd rather not include them in the rankings, because there seem to be other divine entities at play, probably more powerful than the apostles, and I don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Fair enough
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necromater

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Betting is now open!
My money is on them offering themselves for power, calling it now.
(Missed my chance on getting dibs on fusion, but not on this!)
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Boy second time i want to lost a bet oh well if they don't die is a win
 

Fellow_Degenerate

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Yes, Fairy Thing is 6th Spawn while Alice is 6th Spawn Spawn.

Ether = The 6th = Grandfather Thing
Fairy = The 6th's Son = Fairy Thing
Alice = The 6th's Granddaughter = Fairy's Daughter Thing

Not sure how Hex and Nico fit in with the 6th. All we know is it's Fairy Thing's Kin and by extension related to The 6th. It could be Fairy Thing's Brother. We do know Hex is an S-Rank Aberration of his kind and much more powerful than the A-Rank's of his species. Nico also has more advanced teleportation than Hex and likely his species but she can't create dimensions like him. So I'm guessing Hex is a high generation. Likely 1st or even 2nd at worse. Which makes Nico 2nd Gen or 3rd Gen of the 6th. Nico is already stronger than Hex too, beating it in their fight.

Aglaecwif is a wild card. She's definitely powerful, being a S-Rank and enemy to Valravn. Is she our sister or The 4th's granddaughter aka 2nd Gen? If she's the 4th's Daughter Thing, she should really be a huge deal. We know her Memory Trait is potent and possibly extremely powerful if my theories are true. So I can't see her being below the 3rd generation. Especially when even the MC couldn't tell she was using her memory trait on him. But she implied that she could possibly have a mixture with the 7th. If she does, that would also explain why Val hates her since she would be a heretic for not being loyal to their Dark Lord.

Anyway, I got sidetracked from the 6th and his kin. The incest in this game is off the charts when you think about it. Though, it's likely not as literal as I'm making it out to be. But it's fun to play around with the thought.
In regards to Alice I think she's way too weird to be 3rd generation, I mean 3rd generation is pretty much an uber monster but not chosen one levels of power like Val or Monster Mommy, and Alice has the weird thing with her never really tiring and getting power way too fast even when compared to the MC. I always interpreted the entity talking to Alice to be the 3rd Arbiter and the Fairy to be the 6th apostle, after all if I recall correctly Val calls the Fairy an ''enemy of his lord'' or something of the sort, and I have a hard time believing that the big bad among the apostles would care enough about a spawn as to consider it an enemy, though it could also just be Vals overly formal way of saying the Fairy opposes the 7th.
 

Dipasimaan

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In regards to Alice I think she's way too weird to be 3rd generation, I mean 3rd generation is pretty much an uber monster but not chosen one levels of power like Val or Monster Mommy, and Alice has the weird thing with her never really tiring and getting power way too fast even when compared to the MC. I always interpreted the entity talking to Alice to be the 3rd Arbiter and the Fairy to be the 6th apostle, after all if I recall correctly Val calls the Fairy an ''enemy of his lord'' or something of the sort, and I have a hard time believing that the big bad among the apostles would care enough about a spawn as to consider it an enemy, though it could also just be Vals overly formal way of saying the Fairy opposes the 7th.
First thing Alice is in fact 2nd generation

Ether(?) = apostle
Fairy = 1st generation
Alice = 2nd generation

And for the Fairy being an enemy of the 7th you better ask brother Gtdead and cunt DrakoGhoul
 
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DrakoGhoul

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In regards to Alice I think she's way too weird to be 3rd generation, I mean 3rd generation is pretty much an uber monster but not chosen one levels of power like Val or Monster Mommy, and Alice has the weird thing with her never really tiring and getting power way too fast even when compared to the MC. I always interpreted the entity talking to Alice to be the 3rd Arbiter and the Fairy to be the 6th apostle, after all if I recall correctly Val calls the Fairy an ''enemy of his lord'' or something of the sort, and I have a hard time believing that the big bad among the apostles would care enough about a spawn as to consider it an enemy, though it could also just be Vals overly formal way of saying the Fairy opposes the 7th.
What do you mean? Alice is 2nd Generation, not 3rd. Fairy Thing is 1st Generation.

As for Val, everything is an enemy to the 7th.
 

TerminusPrime

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Eh, if Weird doesn't add consequences for skipping content Ima be upset...like why even give us the option to skip any of it if it doesn't matter...although I do recall in the discord it was talked bout (not doin characters like Liz, Amber, and Emily's content resulting in bad things)
WW put in a note at the end of the update where he added the mall that if you skipped some of the side quests there would be consequences, including possible dead ends. So he planned on making those choices impact the storyline at least at that point in development.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Since I'm likely going to be too lazy later, I'll get ahead and just write this all out again. I'll just list the characters under their Apostle. I'll skip the theory heavy ones like Danica and so on for now.

Apostles = Progenitor
1st Generation = Progeny
2nd Generation = Progeny of Progeny
The rest is obvious. % and Gen varies depending on if they reproduced naturally, via infection or a mix of both across generations.

The 1st Apostle - The Authority

Spawns and Monsters
Jake - 1st Generation(100%)
M-22 Minyaks - 7th Generation(50%)
Kenny - 7th Generation?(50%?)
Bailey - 7th Generation?(50%?)

The 2nd Apostle - The Power

Spawns and Monsters
Michael - 1st Generation(100%)
M-59 Leigong - 8th Generation(58%)

The 3rd Apostle - The Body

Spawns and Monsters
Ella - 1st Generation(100%)
MC(Optional) - 1st Generation(100%)
Aglaecwif Child - 2nd Generation(?%)
M-22 Minyaks - 7th Generation(40%)

The 4th Apostle - The Memory

Spawns and Monsters
MC - 1st Generation(100%)
Aglaecwif - ??? Generation(?%)
Aglaecwif Child(MC) - 2nd Generation(?%)
Sharon - unknown

The 5th Apostle - Unknown, assumed Time

Assumed Spawns and Monsters
Deus
Zack

The 6th Apostle - The Ether aka Space

Spawns and Monsters
The Fairy - 1st Generation(100%)
Alice - 2nd Generation(100%)
Nico - ??? Generation(?%)
M-33 Hex - ??? Generation(?%)

The 7th Apostle - Lord of Dark

Spawns and Monsters
Valravn - 1st Generation(100%)

The 8th Apostle - Unknown, assumed Light

Spawns and Monsters
Tiffany - 1st Generation(100%)
Clark - ??? Generation(?%)

That's most of it. This should give a good picture of the Apostles and their descendants. I might've made a mistake here or forget to put a certain monster under an Apostle but meh. Memory Mommy decided to withhold my memory usage while being lazy so it can't be helped.
 

ItzSyther

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WW put in a note at the end of the update where he added the mall that if you skipped some of the side quests there would be consequences, including possible dead ends. So he planned on making those choices impact the storyline at least at that point in development.
Great to know
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Gtdead

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Let's try another "versus".

MC is level 1, as shown during the Klaus fight (the main one, not the skirmish after the casino).
Alice is level 1, as shown during her simulation fight with Laurie.
Michael is level 1, with unlocked powers, as shown during the fight with Chimera.

Choose any matchup between them and analyze it.
MC vs Alice
MC vs Michael
Alice vs Michael
FFA

Or you can analyze all of them if you like, but that's going to be a long one.
 

ItzSyther

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Let's try another "versus".

MC is level 1, as shown during the Klaus fight (the main one, not the skirmish after the casino).
Alice is level 1, as shown during her simulation fight with Laurie.
Michael is level 1, with unlocked powers, as shown during the fight with Chimera.

Choose any matchup between them and analyze it.
MC vs Alice
MC vs Michael
Alice vs Michael
FFA

Or you can analyze all of them if you like, but that's going to be a long one.
MC vs Michael
Ima be real, I just don't see Michael winning against the MC simply because his power doesn't work against MC (or Alice I think) and by the Klaus fight MC already displayed some impressive shapeshifting like his eagle form and his gorilla fists.

So if it goes into a direct melee Michael is in trouble even more so if the MC decides to spam his tentacles (especially the jellyfish venom one).

The best strat for Michael is to get MC to waste a lot of energy but thats risky.
 

KyngC

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Let's try another "versus".

MC is level 1, as shown during the Klaus fight (the main one, not the skirmish after the casino).
Alice is level 1, as shown during her simulation fight with Laurie.
Michael is level 1, with unlocked powers, as shown during the fight with Chimera.

Choose any matchup between them and analyze it.
MC vs Alice
MC vs Michael
Alice vs Michael
FFA

Or you can analyze all of them if you like, but that's going to be a long one.
Round 1: MC high diff
Round 2: Michael extreme diff
Round 3: Michael mid/high diff
 

ItzSyther

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Hmm now an Alice vs MC fight could be interesting but ima still hand it to MC mostly because of his nasty jellyfish venom tentacle.

That tentacle was amazing in 2 bad ends (the one with Klaus and the other against Ella) so just imagine MC using it against Alice, I think it'd be game over for her if MC decided to open up with that and wait for her to collapse and just end it with a well placed gorilla punch to the head.
 
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