VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Bleh21]

I often view it differently in that I would feel bad if a female character gets left behind and as for other male characters, even when they do have love interests it's unrealistic to expect it to have a lot of focus, these stories are written by one person, and even if Deryl is going to end up with Tess, they can't exactly waste an arc on it and Michael the turbo battle autist, well I could see him falling for the MC more than anyone.

I find the opposite for Liz, of the main girls, I find Liz, Amber and Deryl suffer a bit character wise in the early game, and the twins end up with the least interesting romance routes for main girls, with Alice and Michael stealing the show tied so heavily to the more interesting aspects. For me they only became interesting once they got to that moment.

I didn't say leave a girl behind lol. You can either write them to be like Micheal (other interests then being in a relationship) or build up one with a side character. Although I'd still argue being single is way better then ending up as a side chick in a harem of like 10 lol. Have some self respect god damn. I would actually kms if my daughter ended up in one.
I just felt like Micheals story beats was always leading to him finding something more important in his life then just fighting for getting stronger. That just might be the cringe romantic in me though lol.

I personally would've written Deryl to end up with Amber once he had shown he's changed. Emily with Christy or a thrupple with Ella(with you being a sex toy they call occasionally when they need dick), Jake to end up with Mia and Micheal to end up with Alice. Everyone else I'm fine with being with MC cause they don't narratively have someone that makes sense.
Im talking purely about the romance story beats. Alice appears a lot but the development of the love story is basically you help her and she falls in love with you. Liz is the high school crush that rejected you because she thought neither of you were mentally ready for it. She was at the top of her field and was depressed about it cause she didnt feel any passion about swimming anymore. But once you get your powers and start directly challenging her, she starts realising that you have gotten rid of your mental issues. You beating her ignites her competitive spirit and she starts getting rid of her mental issues aswell. It improves the more you hang out with her and challenge her, bit by bit until she finally let's herself fall in love. It's a stark contrast to the generic "help" you lend to other girls to have them fall in love and I find it to be incredible writing.

 

[ItsaJuicyPeach]

respect my queen otherwise you gonna get smited

I can look past my loathing and see why people like her for sure, but there is only one queen in this game and her name is Alice.

 

[Bleh21]

As smn who traveled to some countries where "harems" do exist. Believe me it's not that unrealistic. It's just that we (occident ppl) weren't born with this culture. Personally I play games, read and watch shows to "try multiple lives" (as a warrior, a mage, an assassin, a superhuman...). I don't do them bc they are the most realistic thing but bc they merge our views on reality with unlimited possibilities.
I do it for the dreamy part, the one I prbbly won't get to experience IRL (this can be a genre preference but I'll assume you like fantasy since you're here). Also, I like to think abt it this way, if the ppl in the harem are ok with it and they love the person they gave their heart to. I don't see where's the prblm, especially when you think abt all the women being deceived, cheated on... Like after some research, I read that abt 50% of married couples in the US cheat at least 1 time during their marriage, honestly a scary stat. I'm not saying harems are for everyone, it should be a choice and not as taboo as we make it seem, some travels can be eye opening and I'm glad I got to experience how grand the world truly is.
I'm just saying that for those who can live with it and have the ability to take care of it, it might be better. At least in this case they know what they're going for b4 comitting.
If everyone is happy you shouldn't feel bad abt them. For exemple I feel bad abt women being abused (if we didn't stop Jake who know what could have happened to Nina, my man was litteraly going crazy), manipulated, forced marriage (could have been the case for Alice who knows)... This also applies IRL


Not true, those guys are in college. Why would they commit to one person whey they go party all night and know they'll pbbly cheat on their beloved. It's often hinted that the side characters get some chicks during some events. WW just doesn't show them bc they're irrelevent to the story. I'll take myself as an exemple, I think every group of friend is different, in my group I don't rly know any side fucks my friends have. Neither do I want to know abt them. The only ones I know abt are those who are in an actual relationship with them.
All of this to say, the characters don't seem like "non existent or ultra virgins", well some are (poor Jake for exemple lol) but that's normal even IRL you got guys like this. However, wether they are virgins bc they want it or not. That doesn't change anything abt the fact that they exist and should be respected nonetheless.
The keywords you used are "don't really identify myself as the mc". Personally I always put a bit of myself in characters when I play a choice based game in general and I feel like I'm the one living that adventure with the whole crew.
If the reason why you can't is simply bc of the harem then just date 1 girl and that's it. I think WW offer that possibily (correct me if I'm wrong). There you go, now you'll prbbly be able to identify yourself as the mc a bit more (there's alway a gallery unlocker if you're curious).



You can't compare your "peaceful world" with theirs. So many things are different yet so many things are the same too. Every person's different, maybe they aren't searching LIs for themselves. For exemple Deryl's obviously obsessed with his research so side chicks're perfect for him. One of MC's friend was dating Ella 'till they "broke up". Michael is fight obsessed and doesn't do well with emotions (but I feel like MC will have an impact on him like hinted by some previous choices)...
Plus, personally I wouldn't give a damn if a lot of renders were wasted to show me a spin off of a side character having his love story, bc I play as the mc not another side character. Only case that could have some value to me is if it brings smt to the story (backstory, a character is going to be killed and the author does that to make the reader feel that death...)
Like you said Amber broke up with Deryl bc he cheated on her. The difference between MC and Deryl is that she know what's going and is ok with it. It's not cheating, I'm not saying WW hasn't made up some random excuses for some characters to be ok with it but he atleast made the said excuses believable.
Only thing I would have a complaint abt is MC sometimes not being upfront abt it.

There's one thing I'm affraid of though. When you tell Alice you're dating other ppl at the same time. She says smt like it's ok, I don't have much time to think/for that NOW. The now is scaring me, especially when we saw a scene where the MC is being married to white haired nepo that's got a power related to time (in a dream I think or power thingy I don't rly remember).
The thing I'm affraid is if dev/s decide to make mono ending only and doesn't include a harem ending.
I have seen so many games go down that way, it leaves a rly sour and bad aftertatse and you never rly get rid of it. I'm always readying myself in case it happens and no matter how many times it happened it still leaves the same frustration (nowadays I just drop those b4 the ending lol).
Btw, most complete game I've seen in terms of endings is Fetish Locator lol.


I hope I helped bring another maybe newer perspective to you mate, enjoy



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This message took me quite some time and when that happens I often do smt on the side, that's why it might contains what you wrote b4 you if you did edit your com. So sry in advance if that's the case


Personally I got quite attached to them, I find both super interesting and as lovable as Alice. I love their story th flashbacks we got from them post superhuman. In the end, it's a matter of preferences. Like you said it's early, now, I don't think they have anything to envy Alice or any other side characters.
Plus it's quite normal for them not to get that much attention early Mc alrdy had a "relationship" with them and it wasn't their arc anyway. I still think WW managed to keep them in our mind pretty well given how much attention Alice received at some point. Honestly, if I was asked to choose between them I'd rather quit lol
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[Juan96]

Once the MC reaches level 5 and has full control of his abilities, would it be possible for him to create a powerful body for Syla's spirit to inhabit? After all, she managed to do the hardest thing which was to stay alive, even if it is in the immaterial world.

 

[Klab040855]

Once the MC reaches level 5 and has full control of his abilities, would it be possible for him to create a powerful body for Syla's spirit to inhabit? After all, she managed to do the hardest thing which was to stay alive, even if it is in the dream world.

I mean Syla is already completely dead, the only thing inside of the mc is a memory created by her if i understood it correctly.

 

[Juan96]

I mean Syla is already completely dead, the only thing inside of the mc is a memory created by her if i understood it correctly.

If you think about it, Ella accomplished something similar and she wasn't even level 5 when she did it, Somehow, she's still alive, even though she was killed by Nyx.

 

[Juan96]

I mean Syla is already completely dead, the only thing inside of the mc is a memory created by her if i understood it correctly.

I still don't understand how ella managed to resurrect herself through that doll, after being killed by nxy, maybe the MC can adapt the idea behind this feat and bring her mother back, maybe nxy herself can help since her power is linked to death.

 

[Klab040855]

I still don't understand how ella managed to resurrect herself through that doll, after being killed by nxy, maybe the MC can adapt the idea behind this feat and bring her mother back, maybe nxy herself can help since her power is linked to death.

From what i understood Ella stayed alive by putting a part of her body in the doll, the doll don't have all Ella memories only until the last "backup".

 

[Juan96]

I mean Syla is already completely dead, the only thing inside of the mc is a memory created by her if i understood it correctly.

About Syla being just a memory, I'm not so sure, she's too conscious to be simply a memory.

 

[Nexum768]

I still don't understand how ella managed to resurrect herself through that doll, after being killed by nxy, maybe the MC can adapt the idea behind this feat and bring her mother back, maybe nxy herself can help since her power is linked to death.

Its unusual cause the ella that was resurrected wasnt the same ella that mc met (Memories up to date) its like a checkpoint of herself

 

[XeroZero000]

I mean Syla is already completely dead, the only thing inside of the mc is a memory created by her if i understood it correctly.

Nope, she's not dead yet, or whatever state she's in called.

There's an explicit statement by Valraven when addressing Syla about why she didn’t go to the cycle, or something like that—I don’t remember exactly what he said. And, he warned her that something bad would happen if she kept staying like this.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

It's definitely possible to revive Syla, assuming WW allows it to happen. Just like MC can recreate Bailey, when the times come. MC should be able to recreate Syla's body and put her memories in it. Especially since she has all of her own memories up in the Immaterial world and her original body is still "fresh". So at Level 5, he should be able to recreate her. Potentially even removing whatever flaw she had developed as well.

This would be a much easier process with Syla since she's connected to the 4th. Besides, once MC obtains Evolution or at least successfully combine his Memory and Body trait. He should have a smoother time compared to the process Ella had to set up for hers. Especially since Syla would just need to allow MC to port her memories to the new body. Everything else would sync up naturally overtime. Depending on the process, MC could potentially be his mom new dad lol. Especially if he used his own material along with her own.

Anyway, if anyone has read the Death Mage that Doesn't Want A Fourth Time. That's pretty much what Van did with his mother Darcia. Put her lingering soul in a new body. He made modifications to it too, so that her body would be much tougher to kill.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Nope, she's not dead yet, or whatever state she's in called.

There's an explicit statement by Valraven when addressing Syla about why she didn’t go to the cycle, or something like that—I don’t remember exactly what he said. And, he warned her that something bad would happen if she kept staying like this.

That's kind of why I think that it won't be possible to revive Syla. I think the bad things Valravn warned about have happened. I base this on two things. Firstly, the way Syla has only been manifesting as the occasional whisper to the MC. It's like she's just a ghost. More of a ghost than she was, anyway. Secondly, in the final memory vault, the silat attendant points to an energy vortex that looked a lot like the Vestige of the althumans the MC met with Henri, and says "sister awaits". The Vestige was made of spirits that had lingered in the dream world too long and had their individual spirits decay, just like Valravn warns will happen to Syla.

So what I'm afraid is going to happen is that the MC is going to get a double dose of tragedy. That the next update will open with the MC, right off of reliving his mother's death, being told that she's effectively died again. That she finally hit a tipping point on her slowly decaying sense of self, and now is too incoherent to do more than whisper the occasional message to him.

I hope I'm wrong, though. That would just be very sad if I was right. Or at least that if I am right, that it's possible to repair Syla's spirit with help from Nyx or someone else with soul powers.

 

[Nexum768]

It's definitely possible to revive Syla, assuming WW allows it to happen. Just like MC can recreate Bailey, when the times come. MC should be able to recreate Syla's body and put her memories in it. Especially since she has all of her own memories up in the Immaterial world and her original body is still "fresh". So at Level 5, he should be able to recreate her. Potentially even removing whatever flaw she had developed as well.

This would be a much easier process with Syla since she's connected to the 4th. Besides, once MC obtains Evolution or at least successfully combine his Memory and Body trait. He should have a smoother time compared to the process Ella had to set up for hers. Especially since Syla would just need to allow MC to port her memories to the new body. Everything else would sync up naturally overtime. Depending on the process, MC could potentially be his mom new dad lol. Especially if he used his own material along with her own.

Anyway, if anyone has read the Death Mage that Doesn't Want A Fourth Time. That's pretty much what Van did with his mother Darcia. Put her lingering soul in a new body. He made modifications to it too, so that her body would be much tougher to kill.

Idk if lvl 5 could make syla a body with her old powers/prime powers at the bare minimum shes getting a human body? maybe not too sure

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Idk if lvl 5 could make syla a body with her old powers/prime powers at the bare minimum shes getting a human body? maybe not too sure

He doesn't need to remake the entire thing. Her original body still exist in the material world. In a sense, he's just restoring her original body into its original shape. He likely has to modify some of it. But I don't see it being a tall task with the Memory and Body Trait at Level 5.

Will Syla be at the same level of power as she originally was at? Probably not. She could possibly drop to A Class or even down further. If MC waits until he gets Evolution, or until he has vastly more power, he could brute force it and revive her back in full. At her original state. But we don't know how much power that would require. Or if Syla can persist for that long. It could take years or even several decades for him to have the amount of power to pull it off.

Again, this is assuming WW allows it to happen. I'm of the opinion that it's possible, assuming plot doesn't get in the way of it. If WW doesn't want her to live, then she isn't going to, regardless of the possibility.

 

[Grimnir098]

Im talking purely about the romance story beats. Alice appears a lot but the development of the love story is basically you help her and she falls in love with you.

Maybe I'm misremembering because it's been a while, but I'm 90% sure Alice doesn't just fall in love with you after you help her. In fact, I'm not even even sure she's fallen in love with you by the time she agrees to go out with you (talking about like vs love).
Maybe it's more ordinary and subtle than Liz's love story, but I think you're oversimplifying it when you say you just help her and she falls in love with you.

 

[Bleh21]

Maybe I'm misremembering because it's been a while, but I'm 90% sure Alice doesn't just fall in love with you after you help her. In fact, I'm not even even sure she's fallen in love with you by the time she agrees to go out with you (talking about like vs love).
Maybe it's more ordinary and subtle than Liz's love story, but I think you're oversimplifying it when you say you just help her and she falls in love with you.

Yeah she's initially very reluctant cause she doesn't think she'll have the time to work on the relationship. But not only is that never actually a factor afterwords, it's just kinda basic romance stuff. To me it's all just extra details to obscure the basic formula of "you help her, she falls in love".
Maybe we'll get something more with the mom storyline but nothing so far actually made me invested in the love aspect between the Mc and Alice. (Not just Alice, I feel the same way about literally everyone besides Liz and Ella)
I mean get why people like it. People who identify with the MC would probably want to be in a regular relationship as opposed to wild ones like Liz and Ella. But I'm all about the wild romantic gestures, twists and turns etc.

 

[Ddlc]

Alice's views on relationships were shaped by what happened with her parents.
To have little time to date someone was just the excuse, in fact her real reason to be so hesitant is how inadequate she feels to experience love.
She is a mafia boss, a criminal, responsible for terrible things and with no intention to change that anytime soon, a fearsome fighter and cold blooded killer.
Her father was the same and he had to keep this hidden from her mother, when the secret was revealed the mother couldn't take it, the person her father is, the same she became, was "not made to be loved" or at least this is how she sees the situation.
So she was terrified of opening her heart to someone if it meant to be abandoned when eventually the person couldn't accept who Alice is, this is what made her fall for Mc, he is at the same time someone who can live in the dangerous world she was part of and accept what kind of person she is, and more important, continue at her side despite that.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Meanwhile in the story...

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Meanwhile, Jess fans are not even considered part of the conversation.

 

[shujuku]

Alice's views on relationships were shaped by what happened with her parents.
To have little time to date someone was just the excuse, in fact her real reason to be so hesitant is how inadequate she feels to experience love.
She is a mafia boss, a criminal, responsible for terrible things and with no intention to change that anytime soon, a fearsome fighter and cold blooded killer.
Her father was the same and he had to keep this hidden from her mother, when the secret was revealed the mother couldn't take it, the person her father is, the same she became, was "not made to be loved" or at least this is how she sees the situation.
So she was terrified of opening her heart to someone if it meant to be abandoned when eventually the person couldn't accept who Alice is, this is what made her fall for Mc, he is at the same time someone who can live in the dangerous world she was part of and accept what kind of person she is, and more important, continue at her side despite that.

Alice best grill