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DrakoGhoul

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I'm with you but i'm trying to work info as confirmed. She's so powerful she could be 5 pretty easily but they never actually confirmed that she got the serum and evolved. I forgot to add Deus (will edit). We dont know anything about Zack so i didnt bother.
Zack is probably in a coma right about now. As for the no confirmation thing. Clark saying they now have more lvl 5s and Xanthe telling Nico he was going to give the Serum to their entire team leans towards them all being lvl 5. Why would she take after asking for it? Also Nico's boasting from this update but that could just be her being smug as usual.

I'm sure the dev will mention it at some point.
 

bebroeater

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Since we're discussing possible level 5s for characters, thought I'd put together the info we have on the superhumans we've seen so far (not counting the dead ones):

Level 5:
1. Bernhard Gunvald - Macro scale aerokinesis. Dexter implied he could clean the entire atmosphere after multiple nuclear explosions. Fast enough to basically be teleporting. Body can dissolve into air. Decades of combat experience. Multiple years as a level 5. Fully fluent in monster language. Monster parent unknown
2. Nyx Elis - Life/Death manipulation. Kills just by being near something and is capable of reviving the dead. Could be some version of storing and distributing life (like every death becomes a life she can restore or something) No details beyond that. Decades of combat experience. Multiple years as level 5. Monster parent unknown
3. Lucius - Unlimited (or at least practically limitless) duplication of self. No details beyond that. Decades of combat experience. Multiple years as level 5. Monster parent unknown
4. Malik Drexel - Pyrokinesis (scale unknown but presumably massive). Can transform himself and move around as a flame. No details beyond that. Decades of combat experience. Multiple years as level 5. Monster parent unknown
5. Alexis - Large scale iron manipulation. Flexible in scale, speed and range but doesn't gain sensory information from the iron. Presumed huge durability and the ability to transmute any amount of the material into greater/lesser amounts [changing the iron in the soil while chasing ella as she was running away from HERO with jake]. No details beyond that. Years of combat experience. Multiple years as a superhuman. Monster parent unknown
6. Clark: Plasma/Unknown-energy generation and manipulation. Output and range is flexible; seems to be able to channel it though objects and himself. Uses it to accelerate, fight, but cant seem to shoot without a gun (unlike Klaus). Pinpoint accuracy (shot a human sized target from a mile high tower from miles away). Years of combat experience. Multiple years as a superhuman. Monster parent unknown.
7. Ella Volpe: Localized matter manipulation with no limitations (seemingly) and perfect control/reading of the makeup of an object. Can change herself, any objects etc. Short to medium range of powers. Powers give her almost unlimited flexibility of approach but range of action limited by her proximity to target. Practically invulnerable to harm thanks to limitless regeneration. Might be able to create things that can stay separate from her body (could be the way she creates the pills without a fancy lab). 5-9 years as a superhuman; very recent level 5. Looks like years of combat experience. Confirmed spawn of the 3rd: The Body

level 4/5 not definitively answered
1. Nico: teleportation of herself and anything in her sight-line to any place she's seen. So far no limitations of any kind (see the movie: Jumper). Incredible senses, speed, and reflexes. No details beyond that. Years of combat experience. Multiple years as a superhuman. Monster parent unknown
2. Lochan Deus: Future sight. Level of detail, accuracy, distance into future , and perspective unknown. No details beyond that. Years of combat experience. Multiple years as a superhuman. Monster parent unknown

level 3
1. Cole: says he could boil charlie's insides and popped the anchor's head. Could boil blood/liquids etc. Maybe some power to energize/excite atoms. Years of (or at least plentiful) combat experience. Multiple years as a superhuman. Monster parent unknown

level 2
1. MC: Practically limitless control of his own form. Can read the makeup and skills and then replicate anything/anyone he touches or is otherwise able to make a connection with. Replication is perfect including memories, material characteristics, skills etc. Short or medium threat range. Standard superhuman resilience, speed, and strength. Pronounced weakness to electricity and weak to other tactics that easily/efficiently destroy flesh. <1 year of being a superhuman. Significant combat experience. Confirmed combined spawn of both the 3rd and 4th with primary influence being either the 3rd (the Body) or 4th (the Memory)
2. Laurie: Produces an infectious crystal that she can fashion into different objects. Preferred technique is to throw the objects at targets where they do damage. The crystal then transforms flesh (and maybe other objects) into itself creating a spreading infection. Unknown time as a superhuman. Limited combat experience. Monster parent unknown. Appears weak for a Level 2
3. Danica: Power manifests as 2 distinct abilities: The ability to 1. summon cross shaped energy that can be used both defensively (to block MCs Oscar shaped fists) and offensively (to cut flesh and objects) and 2. to manifest an invisible cross on objects that grows with time. Growth requires continued eye contact with the object. On command the cross immediately destroys all parts of the object covered by it. (unknown how it interacts with superhumans with energy barriers like Klaus or augmented resistance like Alice or Micheal). Years as an Assassin and superhuman. Limited combat experience with superhumans. Monster parent's power and standing unknown, appearance known.

Level 1
1. Alice: Generates graviton spheres from the ends of her limbs. Significantly augments her physical force. Generates small graviton field around herself to protect herself which grants significant durability. Graviton spheres can be concentrated and launched as artillery causing massive AOE damage. Repulsive effects of gravitons can be used to make her attacks stronger and launch herself of surfaces. Doesn't appear to use or have access to the attractive potential of gravitons. Years of general combat experience. Limited combat experience with superhumans and monsters. Confirmed spawn of the Fairy Monster (true name and standing unknown)
2. Micheal:No information. Alice level durability. Years of combat experience. Enhanced combat senses and sensiblities. Confirmed spawn of the 2nd (name unknown)
3. Del: Generates any substance as skin secretions. No memories prior to their infection. No combat experience. Monster parent unknown
4. Demi: Creates an attraction field around themselves. People see a person that is naturally attractive to them and want to protect/be helpful to Demi. Is able (with prolonged effort) to alter the perceptions and thought patterns of people though not on a large scale and the level of thought pattern alteration seems to scale with time and effort (barely any effect on MC vs completely messing with Clover's understanding of self and reality. No combat experience. Monster parent unknown

Level Unknown:
1. Charlie: Can create a taboo on people with eye contact (or sight-line contact, not specified). On violating the rules of the taboo (which so far seem to be pretty flexible) subject experiences terrible consequences (not expanded on). Says they are unkillable unless someone meets a certain set of criteria (currently unknown). Unknown combat experience. Monster parent unknown.
2. Deryl: Can use their blood product (called ichor) to create/integrate/interact with any technological construct. Greater levels of the power seem to create clones that can wholly host the original consciousness. Seems to have evolved during charlie's taboo so unknown evolution level.
3. Zara: Red haired woman working with Ella. Unknown powers, combat experience, and monster parent.
Let me know if there are additions/changes to be made
Where's Jake?
 

RogueEagle

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I'm almost positive Nico is lvl 5 unless the Dev released info saying she's lvl 4 still. She was given the same serum as Lexi and Clark. This is also after Clark mentions to Xanthe that he's strong enough already to stop the monsters attacks by himself, after his Minyak encounter with Lexi.

The known lvl 5s from Hero(out of 10 or more) should be:

1 - Bernhard(Captain)(Wind)
2 - Malik(Captain)(Fire)
3 - Nix(Captain)(Life-Death)
4 - Lucius(Captain)(Clones)
5 - Zack(Captain)(Future Sight)
6 - Alexis(Lieutenant)(Iron)
7 - Clark(Lieutenant)(Energy)
8 - Nico(Lieutenant)(Tele/Trans portation)
9 - Deus(Lieutenant)(Future Sight and ???)
I believe the serum might act as an evolution activation agent and not a instant max lvl agent, so if a lvl3 takes it he will evolve to lvl4, shame its not confirmed but that is what i think it is anyways.
 

RogueEagle

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Where's Jake?
Jake is a lvl2 and is currently located at HERO or dead...
And right now he is know to possess auditory control: if you hear his order you will comply and command control: even if you don't hear him, he can cause pain, make you retreat, basic short commands, those are his main powers as a lvl2 anyways besides his memory manipulation from his lvl1.
 

Naryelle

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A little question just for save time (in case the answer is yes but in the late game) : Does dating (not just having somes scene but doing the kiss/date/love stuff) with more than one character within the same save have consequences ?
 

bebroeater

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A little question just for save time (in case the answer is yes but in the late game) : Does dating (not just having somes scene but doing the kiss/date/love stuff) with more than one character within the same save have consequences ?
As of right now I don't think there's anything stopping you from dating multiple girls at once.
 

DrakoGhoul

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I believe the serum might act as an evolution activation agent and not a instant max lvl agent, so if a lvl3 takes it he will evolve to lvl4, shame its not confirmed but that is what i think it is anyways.
That still wouldn't make sense. Why would Nico stop at lvl 4, if, under the assumption, she was lvl 3 like Clark and Lexi(assumption)? Wouldn't she also take even more serums if that's the case and reach lvl 5 like her teammates? That's also assuming they weren't lvl 4 already, which I believe they were at that time of that Park fight.
A little question just for save time (in case the answer is yes but in the late game) : Does dating (not just having somes scene but doing the kiss/date/love stuff) with more than one character within the same save have consequences ?
No, it doesn't and probably won't at all since the MC himself stated he's building a harem. The groups of girls he's with know about each other(in their group). Alice also seems to reveal that she doesn't care if he's with other women.
 

bebroeater

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Jake is a lvl2 and is currently located at HERO or dead...
And right now he is know to possess auditory control: if you hear his order you will comply and command control: even if you don't hear him, he can cause pain, make you retreat, basic short commands, those are his main powers as a lvl2 anyways besides his memory manipulation from his lvl1.
I know, I was asking DevilsDetails. I just found it weird that Danica is on the list and Jake is not, both of them being characters that you can either spare or kill depending on your choices in the story.
 

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Since we are making lists I would like to make one of the monsters considering the theory that the numbered ones are the original monsters and all the others are their descendants, who do you think the other monsters seen so far are descendants of?

Demi's is obviously related to the first one, they are similar in both their powers and their appearance.

I think Kenny's monster is related to the third because of its ability to change and regenerate its body, plus we can make it obey us if we have enough corruption

Maybe Danica's is related to the second one? Although I only say it because they look alike to me.

Alexis is related to the third by her ability to manipulate materials although she is limited to metals.

Clark obviously with the second.

The gym girl (I forgot her name) monster would be related to the third one.

The girl who questions us is also obviously the fourth.

No idea about the rest.

Considering the powers shown so far, if I had to guess the powers of the numbered ones that we are missing, it would be something like:

5- The ability to control the elements

6- The ability to control space and time
 

FrapFappers

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I'm almost positive Nico is lvl 5 unless the Dev released info saying she's lvl 4 still. She was given the same serum as Lexi and Clark. This is also after Clark mentions to Xanthe that he's strong enough already to stop the monsters attacks by himself, after his Minyak encounter with Lexi.

The known lvl 5s from Hero(out of 10 or more) should be:

1 - Bernhard(Captain)(Wind)
2 - Malik(Captain)(Fire)
3 - Nix(Captain)(Life-Death)
4 - Lucius(Captain)(Clones)
5 - Zack(Captain)(Future Sight)
6 - Alexis(Lieutenant)(Iron)
7 - Clark(Lieutenant)(Energy)
8 - Nico(Lieutenant)(Tele/Trans portation)
9 - Deus(Lieutenant)(Future Sight and ???)
Nico can also shoot or throw knives or blades when she encounters valern
 

DrakoGhoul

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Nico can also shoot or throw knives or blades when she encounters valern
That could just be her throwing objects via teleporting them towards Valravn. It doesn't necessarily have to be apart of her powers. I'm sure Hero supplied her with plenty of weaponry that she can then summon to use towards enemies, if/when needed.
 

Rutonat

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That could just be her throwing objects via teleporting them towards Valravn. It doesn't necessarily have to be apart of her powers. I'm sure Hero supplied her with plenty of weaponry that she can then summon to use towards enemies, if/when needed.
If all she could do was blink in and out, without means to attack, she'd be fairly useless to HERO aside from... basically being a taxi. So yeah it's pretty much a given she got some combat training to go with her power.
 

bebroeater

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If all she could do was blink in and out, without means to attack, she'd be fairly useless to HERO aside from... basically being a taxi. So yeah it's pretty much a given she got some combat training to go with her power.
She teleported the MC to space and into lava. And there's nothing stopping her from doing it to somebody else as far as we know. We still don't know for sure how her powers work but they seem ridiculous. I am curious what she would do against the wind dude.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Since we are making lists I would like to make one of the monsters considering the theory that the numbered ones are the original monsters and all the others are their descendants, who do you think the other monsters seen so far are descendants of?

Demi's is obviously related to the first one, they are similar in both their powers and their appearance.

I think Kenny's monster is related to the third because of its ability to change and regenerate its body, plus we can make it obey us if we have enough corruption

Maybe Danica's is related to the second one? Although I only say it because they look alike to me.

Alexis is related to the third by her ability to manipulate materials although she is limited to metals.

Clark obviously with the second.

The gym girl (I forgot her name) monster would be related to the third one.

The girl who questions us is also obviously the fourth.

No idea about the rest.

Considering the powers shown so far, if I had to guess the powers of the numbered ones that we are missing, it would be something like:

5- The ability to control the elements

6- The ability to control space and time
Don't forget we're also missing info about the 7th through 12th Numbered as well. Even though they might be dead or in a state similar to it. It would be kind of hard to tell until we at least learn what parts they are.

So far we have

The 1st Numbered: "Firstborn" "The Authority"

The 2nd Numbered: "???" "The Power" or maybe "The Radiance"?

The 3rd Numbered: "The Body"

The 4th Numbered: "The Memory"

Valravn's Monster: The Lord/King/God, Original Monster? Comes from the Dark Moon?

Valravn's Monster's Bride: the Minyaks parent monster from the Black Sea?

Some of them can fit under the current known Numbered like Sharon. Her powers are similar to the 4th and her parent could be related to ours. Demi's Monster could definitely be related to the 1st and that's something I've mentioned in the past. Klaus's could be from the 2nd Numbered line but I believe the Fairy might be from one of the other Numbered that can manipulate Space and not really the 2nd. I can think of a few more but I'll leave it at that for now.
 

Rutonat

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She teleported the MC to space and into lava. And there's nothing stopping her from doing it to somebody else as far as we know. We still don't know for sure how her powers work but they seem ridiculous. I am curious what she would do against the wind dude.
But since HERO is first and foremost a research agency, destroying valuable material is a no-go. So throwing shit in space or lava is only good for non-canon endings, not for how she actually deals with threats.
 

DrakoGhoul

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If all she could do was blink in and out, without means to attack, she'd be fairly useless to HERO aside from... basically being a taxi. So yeah it's pretty much a given she got some combat training to go with her power.
I wouldn't say that. She's still a lvl 5 so her stats would still be high, even without training. She definitely received some though.

She teleported the MC to space and into lava. And there's nothing stopping her from doing it to somebody else as far as we know. We still don't know for sure how her powers work but they seem ridiculous. I am curious what she would do against the wind dude.
This update revealed some limitations for her powers but even those don't really seem all that bad. The best way to stop Nico is to trap her in a space she can't teleport from or with a mental attack that gives her temporary amnesia so that she can't teleport.

I did mention speed being a possible way around her power in the past. Bernhard might fit the bill here now. It does seem like anyone with that speed could reach her but it'd have to be unbelievably fast and she can't be allowed any time to process a thought. If it's not, then she'll instantly teleport away or transport them away. She's also fast herself so you'll have to outpace her as well for it to work.

I don't mind her being this broken though. It makes them actually feel like a strong force. With more of their superhumans being revealed, I feel we're going to come across even more special abilities.
 

devilsdetails

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I know, I was asking DevilsDetails. I just found it weird that Danica is on the list and Jake is not, both of them being characters that you can either spare or kill depending on your choices in the story.
tbh I just forgot that we could leave him alive. He never lives in my playthroughs. I'll edit the list
 

RonaldGrand6969

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Since we are making lists I would like to make one of the monsters considering the theory that the numbered ones are the original monsters and all the others are their descendants, who do you think the other monsters seen so far are descendants of?

Demi's is obviously related to the first one, they are similar in both their powers and their appearance.

I think Kenny's monster is related to the third because of its ability to change and regenerate its body, plus we can make it obey us if we have enough corruption

Maybe Danica's is related to the second one? Although I only say it because they look alike to me.

Alexis is related to the third by her ability to manipulate materials although she is limited to metals.

Clark obviously with the second.

The gym girl (I forgot her name) monster would be related to the third one.

The girl who questions us is also obviously the fourth.

No idea about the rest.

Considering the powers shown so far, if I had to guess the powers of the numbered ones that we are missing, it would be something like:

5- The ability to control the elements

6- The ability to control space and time
Keep in mind tho, they are only related as far as we know. I mean, we can say that about every monster and superhuman in existence to an extent. Pointless question imo. The real question is whether or not any of them have DIRECT ties of being given their powers directly from the Numbered; dead or otherwise.

My gander is Bernard and Zack definitely have some of the dead Numbered abilities. And maybe that Captain that was mentioned to be able to raise the dead.

Most of the Numbered from what we know either have OP powers, or downright all logic defying unorthodox powers.

What are our ganders on that based on the abilities shown so far, top H.E.R.O members or otherwise...
 
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