5k1n3xt

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The timeline is not the problem.
Deryl said himself that he couldn't control more than one clone at the same time on his first evo, so the time before he goes monster doesn't count (Again, that's assuming he wasn't lying, but him lying right there would easily be the biggest dick move of the whole story), after Deryl turns into a monster 2 months pass, then 1 week until they go to the mall and MC's identity is leaked, and 1 week until he joins H.E.R.O, when MC joins H.E.R.O Del has already supposedly been there for a few months, and idk you, but I don't think 2 months and a half count as a few, at most it's a couple, and as I said in a previous comment, that's assuming the first thing he did after turning into a monster was infiltrating H.E.R.O right away. Not to mention that Del says he leaked our identity "all those months ago", which would at least mean that Deryl leaked our identity when he was supposed to be our friend for no reason, and at most that there's another guy who leaked it before, maybe not even to the media, but to H.E.R.O even.
 
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jthunderk89

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Every fucking prick and cunt in this game is fucking with us so yes lets just roll with it.
I came here for literal fucking with, not figurative fucking with /j
I don't actually get the fucking with us feeling from Deus. Maybe that's just because he's a lot less overt and direct about it than Ella though.

(Side note, hope we don't lose our memories when we reach 3rd evo).
We probably will temporarily, we already did it in our first and second evolutions. It took us awhile to remember the whole night before 1st evo and we didn't remember who anybody was during our second evo (tbh i'm kinda surprised we recognized Alice and Michael as allies).
 

vogelbeest

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Deryl said himself that he couldn't control more than one clone at the same time on his first evo, so the time before he goes monster doesn't count (Again, that's assuming he wasn't lying, but him lying right there would easily be the biggest dick move of the whole story), after Deryl turns into a monster 2 months pass, then 1 week until they go to the mall and MC's identity is leaked, and 1 week until he joins H.E.R.O, when MC joins H.E.R.O Del has already supposedly beben there for a few months, and idk you, but I don't think 2 months and a half count as a few, at most it's a couple, and as I said in a previous comment, that's assuming the first thing he did after turning into a monster was infiltrating H.E.R.O right away. Not to mention that Del says he leaked our identity "all those months ago", which would at least mean that Deryl leaked our identity when he was supposed to be our friend for no reason, and at most that there's another guy who leaked it before, maybe not even to the media, but to H.E.R.O even.
A few means a small number, it could even mean "1 or 2".... (he has few friends/he has 1 or 2 friends)
It's not really a concrete measurement, it just means "a very low number of".
It doesn't say 3... So we can only judge if it could fit what Del says, and that it does...

Del does not actually say he was the one that leaked the identity, it could have been him or his group...
(And yeah, i think he probably did, but the text is not that straightforward it's set in stone... )
D "Yeah, it sure has.... But it's all worth it to have the two of you here."
D "It makes leaking your identity all those months ago totally worth it."

Ella gave the security tapes to Tiffany (first fight MC), Tiffany was found out when her tracker was found in the Minyak MC handed over to Clark. Tiffany even tells the MC "you will be brought into the fold" (you can ask how much time?)
MC wasn't sold out by Tiffany, you even spoke with Lochan Deus in the base.... MC and Tiff got busted, that's all....
Ella really seems to be the one leaking all the time.... It fits her plans anyway...

The actual leaking was before MC had to flee from the mall, he stays at Deryl's for some time, then has the party.
After that they are brought in by HERO. Near the end we talk with Xanthe about capturing Deryl.
Between Valravn and attacking Ella's base is minimal 6 weeks (month training and a couple of weeks)
"And we fought some more. Over and over again for the next month."
"Until our training and confinement within H.E.R.O ended..."
"And even another couple of weeks beyond then."

6 Weeks since joining HERO, 7 since the mall... Doesn't seem to fit "all those months ago" either...
So why would "a couple of months" Del been at hero be impossible to fit in between Deryl's evolution and meeting Del at HERO base? You say it's 2 months and a week before MC's identity is leaked... Del could have joined HERO short after the fight.

It's not really a matter of not being able to control more then 1 clone at the same time. R&X Deryl seems to be in full control of his actions, he is aware himself, perhaps original Deryl only shares a link on subconscious level after the evolution.
One is monsterfied and speaks Ru661zh (rubbish) the clone is exactly like the original in speech and behavior...
But there are no signs "clone Deryl" is ever controlled by original Deryl during all the time after the fight with MC.

The discussion was about whether it could be possible Del is Deryl's clone...
The timespan does not seem to be impossible for that theory...
If we see Michael saying "see you next month" to Alice with our conclusion that's when Michael gets his powers, then the timespan isn't big enough... But the text itself simply is not strict enough to make that conclusion...

Again, i don't think Del is another Deryl clone, i just haven't seen text concrete enough to prove it's impossible...
 
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necromater

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Soooo did we already talked why hero chicks dress like hookers? or we just gonna say because is a porn game?. Valid reason i know but lets say its not.
 
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5k1n3xt

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Again, i don't think Del is another Deryl clone, i just haven't seen text concrete enough to prove it's impossible...
I never said it's completely impossible for Del to be Deryl, I just think that it's too cramped of a time for Deryl to make his clone join H.E.R.O, when I say that the timeline is a problem it just means that to me it wouldn't make too much sense with the time given, not that it's 100% impossible for it to happen like that.
 

5k1n3xt

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Del does not actually say he was the one that leaked the identity, it could have been him or his group...
(And yeah, i think he probably did, but the text is not that straightforward it's set in stone... )
D "Yeah, it sure has.... But it's all worth it to have the two of you here."
D "It makes leaking your identity all those months ago totally worth it."
I just don't see why he'd say that it was worth it to leak or identity if he wasn't the one doing an effort to do it, that's why I said that it must be him doing it. But maybe he means that it was worth it for his group to pay attention to him for months after leaking his identity or smt along these lines?
 

vogelbeest

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I never said it's completely impossible for Del to be Deryl,
Well, i think it makes sense Del was memory wiped by Jake, even before MC beats Jake...
I also think the time between Michael saying goodbye to Alice ("i'll see you in a month") would mean between MC in jail and talking to Valravn the first time would be roughly a month... Michael was preparing for that fight to get his powers...
But time in the game isn't always clearly mentioned.
 
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lavilao

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Soooo did we already talked why hero chicks dress like hookers? or we just gonna say because is a porn game?. Valid reason i know but lets say its not.
Thats easy to answer, it's because there was not enough material to make a full armor, its mentioned that a full armor is expensive in cost and material, so they just cover the important parts.
 

alkeera

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Thats easy to answer, it's because there was not enough material to make a full armor, its mentioned that a full armor is expensive in cost and material, so they just cover the important parts.
In that case it would be more rational to just make a facecovering mask to save more on the materials.
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Soooo did we already talked why hero chicks dress like hookers? or we just gonna say because is a porn game?. Valid reason i know but lets say its not.
Because there's no dress code and they dress however they want. Just like dudes who display full range from literal clown outfit to idiotic suit of armor.
 
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5k1n3xt

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I also think the time between Michael saying goodbye to Alice ("i'll see you in a month") would mean between MC in jail and talking to Valravn the first time would be roughly a month... Michael was preparing for that fight to get his powers...
But time in the game isn't always clearly mentioned.
From what I understand the timeline from Jake's fight is like this:

-On day 61 right after finishing the battle with Jake Michael goes to prepare for a month after he says: "I'm going to go check on Mia and then I'm heading out. I'll see you in a month or so." to Alice.
-Then right after that is the Deryl fight and then there is a 2 months timelapse, after which, still being in day61's script Ella says: "Found it. At long last...." "After two long months in this damned cavern....", and then talks to monster Deryl and shit.
-This is further backed up when in day62 MC mentions that 2 month have passed since Deryl turned into a monster: "It's been about two months since my battle with Jake and Deryl.", And then there's the other Deryl... The one I've been hanging out with these past two months.".
-On day62 while at the mall he also make plans to come back to the mall with everyone next week when talking with Deryl and Amber: Deryl "The boys, back together, next week. You coming?", MC "Oh, sure. Let's do it.", Amber "Just wait til next week, we'll get to it.".
-They end up going to the mall on day76 (Yeah, I know that's technically two weeks, but on day69 MC just goes to visit Mia and there's no mention about the plans, so I take it that story wise only 1 week passed). That same day, but on day77's script, MC is ambushed by the police at the mall at the same time that Michael fights the lighting monster.
-We get to Deryl's house after fleeing, take shelter there and go to sleep.
-Then on day78 we get invited to talk with the supreme minister: "It is a meeting in good faith, to discuss our future. Which is why five days from now I will be flying out personally to Sector 1, to Prime Minister Miliken's estate, where I and he would like to invite you [hname], to a meeting."
-On day83 we go to a party and after the party we atempt to go to the meeting, but on day84's script we get teleported by Nico to H.E.R.O's base. After talking with Dexter and Xanthe for a while we are sent to fight Valravn and after beating him we go to bed.
-Next day we talk with Xanthe some more, talk with our friends, etc. And go to sleep after that.
-Next day we go to class, talk to some people some more, go to sleep.
-Next day Practice fight against Laurie, then memory scan, then sleep.
-Next day more classes, sleep.
-Next day more classes, tour of the base, talk with Xanthe, sleep.
-Next day a class with Xanthe, sleep.
-Finally on day91 we go to the interview, on day92 the fight vs Cole and friends, then there's the meeting with the captains and then we finally go to sleep again.
-Next day even more classes and even more sleep.
-On day94 we fight with Tiffany, and she invites us to her weeding that's gonna happen in "a few days", then Del leaves on his mission and we go to sleep again.
-Next day more classes more sleep.
-On day96 Xanthe feeds us spiders and then we go to sleep.
-Then on day97 we go to the weeding.
-Next (on day98) we talk to Xanthe and after that scene is the 1 month time skip and the start of the assault.

TL;DR:
*2 months since beating Deryl (With Michael going to prepare for 1 of those months).
*1 week until the mall.
*5 days until we get to H.E.R.O's base and beat Valvarn in the same day.
*12 days at H.E.R.O's HQ (Assuming there weren't any non mentioned mini time lapses, like 2-3 days skipped)
*1 month of training until the assault.
 

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Ive played long enough to get past the edginess of the game, but then I take a break from it, come back, see the protagonist and silently go "Martha speaks, and I listen."
 

necromater

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Speaking of dress code, imagine how insane it would be if all the sex scenes prior to us joining Hero was actually with Ella the entire time. That would be creepy as hell but also hot as fuck.
I do not now if every scene but some of them are sus. I would tell you to run but there is not escape from the goth chick they hunt in packs you think you are dating one but then you realize you really are dating the full squad. XD
 
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alkeera

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Speaking of dress code, imagine how insane it would be if all the sex scenes prior to us joining Hero was actually with Ella the entire time. That would be creepy as hell but also hot as fuck.
You fool! It was actually Ella's long-lost evil twin sister with the same powers that wants to get pregnant with our child to conquer the world.
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