FrapFrapper

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If there isn't any difference between third and forth, and Ella has the same monster parents as MC, so will the Second be any different? Because Michael's monster papa is the second, and it is not by proxy like MC had, the second came down to earth by himself. So, Michael is gonna be the strongest or what. I have so many questions right now and it doesn't feel like they will be answered any time soon.
I think because michael doged the main "Gift" Hes gonna get a watered down version of his powers, but the second being his "parent" with how strong it is and michaels skill would still puts him on par with the rest of us.
In short he nerfed himself from being to OP.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Forth has a name, it's Memory, right? Because MC has been called the spawn of Memory. What is the third's name and is it worth to replay the entire game to change it
Yes, the 4th is called the Memory. I was just being extra by saying it that way. That MC really wants to fuck his monster mommy and make it official.

As for the 3rd and if you should do another playthrough. Maybe? The differences aren't massive. It's mostly subtle stuff and for those who don't want to miss anything.

I'll give you an example. It's explained that the 3rd couldn't read the MC's mind easily, even when he had the MC in his grasp, so he had to use his tentacles directly in his head to get everything. On the other side, with Mommy 4th, she did it all easily. There's also the fact that you learn Ella is also a spawn of the 3rd, if you chose him.

As for the names of the Numbered:

The 1st = "The Authority"
The 2nd = "The Power"(Speculation)
The 3rd = "The Body"
The 4th = "The Memory"

The rest we don't know yet and it goes more into speculation, like with the 2nd there.

I think because michael doged the main "Gift" Hes gonna get a watered down version of his powers, but the second being his "parent" with how strong it is and michaels skill would still puts him on par with the rest of us.
In short he nerfed himself from being to OP.
To be honest, Michael was always going to be nerfed, in terms of the 2nd's main powers. He wasn't overly compatible with the 2nd, as Ella said he wasn't an "exact fit" like Jake and the MC. He was mostly compatible with the Leigong, initially. I supposed it works out though because the Leigong line is mostly from the 2nd. In a way, he may gain a higher tier of Lightning now compared to Leigong's.

I could also see his power being sort of a battery for him with the radiation, if he gained them. Not like Godzilla but more Superman or Hulk, in terms of it enhancing his strength and stamina. It would also favor his style of fighting more than him shooting lightning and radiation all over the place. In my opinion, at least. We'll probably find out next update though.
 

Dysphorika

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I'd prefer there not be any major differences between the parents in terms of content my self. Different flavored monster text or a late game encounter with your "parent" but not so much different powers or what have you.
No matter because seems dev made 3rd and 4th related to not mess with the content (would be a hell of variables to follow).
 

nsfwdemanded

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Yes, the 4th is called the Memory. I was just being extra by saying it that way. That MC really wants to fuck his monster mommy and make it official.

As for the 3rd and if you should do another playthrough. Maybe? The differences aren't massive. It's mostly subtle stuff and for those who don't want to miss anything.

I'll give you an example. It's explained that the 3rd couldn't read the MC's mind easily, even when he had the MC in his grasp, so he had to use his tentacles directly in his head to get everything. On the other side, with Mommy 4th, she did it all easily. There's also the fact that you learn Ella is also a spawn of the 3rd, if you chose him.

As for the names of the Numbered:

The 1st = "The Authority"
The 2nd = "The Power"(Speculation)
The 3rd = "The Body"
The 4th = "The Memory"

The rest we don't know yet and it goes more into speculation, like with the 2nd there.


To be honest, Michael was always going to be nerfed, in terms of the 2nd's main powers. He wasn't overly compatible with the 2nd, as Ella said he wasn't an "exact fit" like Jake and the MC. He was mostly compatible with the Leigong, initially. I supposed it works out though because the Leigong line is mostly from the 2nd. In a way, he may gain a higher tier of Lightning now compared to Leigong's.

I could also see his power being sort of a battery for him with the radiation, if he gained them. Not like Godzilla but more Superman or Hulk, in terms of it enhancing his strength and stamina. It would also favor his style of fighting more than him shooting lightning and radiation all over the place. In my opinion, at least. We'll probably find out next update though.
who are you really and are you the dev, just using an alt account or something
 

DrakoGhoul

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No matter because seems dev made 3rd and 4th related to not mess with the content (would be a hell of variables to follow).
Yeah, I still believe the 3rd and 4th are twin monsters. Those two share the same traits. It seems real likely that they were "born" together and have some form of sibling companionship. They cooperate a lot and they both even jumped the 1st in it's plane. Who knows, they also might can't use their full power unless they're together as well.

Or maybe the theory of them(the Numbered) being parts of a greater monster/god is true and when they split, those two(3rd and 4th) were originally supposed to be 1 monster but they inherited those 2 traits(Memory and Body) in a singular form. When that happened, they were then splintered again, making them 2 monsters, who share the same powers but at different completeness. This is also why the MC is important for them as he's the balance piece that would allow them to join back together perfectly. It's all just theories though so there's no real need to think too deeply on it, for now.

That said, I'm also curious about the Fairy's connection to those two. He seemed to trust the MC with Alice because of the fact that MC is a spawn of them but later The 4th(or 3rd) tell him to devour her instead lol. I suppose, from the Fairy's pov, he was future proofing his daughter-thing by tying her to the MC, who's going to be really powerful in the future. Meanwhile, the 4th and 3rd don't give a shit. It could be that simple.

Overall, while I personally want there to be a bigger difference between the selection of the 3rd and 4th, because I really like the Memory aspect. I don't think there will be any major difference, since they're mostly the same. Well, besides sex of course. Then again, FMC getting fucked by the 3rd would be wild to see. Thinking about it, I still want to see Ella+FMC. I'm still genuinely shocked that there's no encounter between the two of them at all.
 

TerminusPrime

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I don't think we'll see any big difference in game since there is only one developer, and I don't think he's going to spend the time to create large branching paths in any specific update.
I think where we might see big differences based on the MC's choices in the game will be with the ending.
We might get multiple ending epilogues that detail larger differences, but those will still be relatively short.
 

necromater

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Fuckkkkkkk. Update update update.
The munchies have me by the balls.T-T
I hope that monster fuck is tentacular.
Cus MC only goes down on tiff XD
 

EndlessNights

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who are you really and are you the dev, just using an alt account or something
I'm not sure what number monster he is, but we call him The Knowledge.

I'm just someone who really needs to touch grass for longer than a week, apparently. It's clearly not helping with my obsession with this game. :KEK:
Stop touching grass dammit, we need you here and posting regularly.

On another note, does anyone have a playthrough where they deliberately play the game "wrong" or in a very unusual way? I'm trying to do one at the moment where the MC is faithful to Amber. It makes sense in my head canon that she'd want a monogamous boyfriend since she's been hurt by a cheater in the past. Hopefully my MC will be able to resist all the temptation around him and treat his girl the way she deserves.

One reason I wanted to try a monogamous playthrough is because I tend to warn people when I recommend the game to them to not expect some great romantic story out of it and that it's a fuckfest. However, there are some good romantic moments with Alice, Emily, etc here and there so the thought occurred to me that maybe I was actually the one approaching the game incorrectly. Perhaps WeirdWorld has been writing great love stories all along and we just never noticed!

I thought it was really interesting how you can have the MC express guilt for sleeping around when he was talking with Alexis at Tiffany's wedding.
 

Edaltar

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I remember someone mentioning an alternate path in which the MC ran from the party instead of fighting Kenny. Was it actually considered as an option by WeirdWorld but then dropped, or is it planned for much later?

Anyway, I imagine that if WeirdWorld ever wanted to implement alternate routes, it would be left for after the main story was completed.
 

awdaw_gans

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Since so many seem to be asking for a save. Here is my persistent file, should unlock the gallery. Or if you prefer, a tiny mod that unlocks the gallery. Chose the option you prefer.

Save: Updated for version 0.94.

Gallery Unlock: Should work for future versions (unless the gallery is overhauled).
how to use save file and galery unlocked?
 

masonwile

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Or maybe the theory of them(the Numbered) being parts of a greater monster/god is true
Isn't that theory pretty much a given? Their names, not to mention H.E.R.O.'s description of Tiffany's parent monster as a part of a whole, pretty much confirms it. They're either a part of Valravn's creator, or remains of its (shattered) bride.

and when they split, those two(3rd and 4th) were originally supposed to be 1 monster but they inherited those 2 traits(Memory and Body) in a singular form. When that happened, they were then splintered again, making them 2 monsters, who share the same powers but at different completeness. This is also why the MC is important for them as he's the balance piece that would allow them to join back together perfectly. It's all just theories though so there's no real need to think too deeply on it, for now.
Ha, I don't really theorise much, but I always thought that Mommery and Dad Bod were leaders of the Numbered faction that wants to reunite into their original form. I've always read the inclination of the monsters to, "return to the sea from whence they came," as well as Bailey's fear of assimilation in the future as a primal urge influenced by the original's desire to reform. Meanwhile, the desire to worship the moon would be influenced by the love for its consort, the Dark God? Very vaguely (and tenuously) referencing Gaia and Uranus here.

That said, I'm also curious about the Fairy's connection to those two. He seemed to trust the MC with Alice because of the fact that MC is a spawn of them but later The 4th(or 3rd) tell him to devour her instead lol. I suppose, from the Fairy's pov, he was future proofing his daughter-thing by tying her to the MC, who's going to be really powerful in the future. Meanwhile, the 4th and 3rd don't give a shit. It could be that simple.
I honestly doubt the actual parent monster is telling the MC to eat Alice; it's likely just a visualisation of the primal instinct to grow stronger, just like the Minyak had a primal instinct to breed. Probably has to do with the unique biology of each superhuman/monster. MC somewhat uniquely (Ella probably can too) relies on feeding on others to increase his power. I doubt every superhuman's primal urge is to kill and feast. Even the Minyak largely ventured forth for a very specific food source, rather than rampaging around.
 

TerminusPrime

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I remember someone mentioning an alternate path in which the MC ran from the party instead of fighting Kenny. Was it actually considered as an option by WeirdWorld but then dropped, or is it planned for much later?

Anyway, I imagine that if WeirdWorld ever wanted to implement alternate routes, it would be left for after the main story was completed.
There was a poll on Patreon early in development on whether the MC should fight or run during the party. The poll went with the fight option. I don't know if there is a plan to go back and open up that option, but it would pretty much be redesigning the game from that point.
Much of the storyline is built on the MC fighting and his existence becoming public knowledge. If that option was added it would likely be after the game was finished, but it seems like quite alot to add onto the game.
There was also a poll on whether the MC should ask for Ella's help before confronting Klaus or if he should stick with Alice and Michael. That poll went with Michael's plan.
 

Edvin

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I doubt every superhuman's primal urge is to kill and feast.
On the contrary, I think that this is exactly the essence of every monster (and superhuman).
If you strip them down to their very basics, they are predators who only care about three things.

1) Killing
2) Feasting
3) Mating

The more humanity you retain, the easier it is for you to resist these innate instincts.
The more are Superhumans corrupted, the closer they get to this primordial nature of all monsters.
If you get beyond a certain limit, you become a monster yourself.
It's all about maintaining control.

Personally, I think there are less than a dozen original monsters. Each of them is the founder of a particular gene line, although it is possible that they all have the same mother. A power monster, a mind monster, a transformation monster, and an energy manipulation monster. It looks like some of the transformation monsters are able to reproduce by division, but I'm guessing all the other monsters were probably originally humans. They either had a bad transformation or lost control because they accumulated too much corruption.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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I'm not sure what number monster he is, but we call him The Knowledge.



Stop touching grass dammit, we need you here and posting regularly.

On another note, does anyone have a playthrough where they deliberately play the game "wrong" or in a very unusual way? I'm trying to do one at the moment where the MC is faithful to Amber. It makes sense in my head canon that she'd want a monogamous boyfriend since she's been hurt by a cheater in the past. Hopefully my MC will be able to resist all the temptation around him and treat his girl the way she deserves.

One reason I wanted to try a monogamous playthrough is because I tend to warn people when I recommend the game to them to not expect some great romantic story out of it and that it's a fuckfest. However, there are some good romantic moments with Alice, Emily, etc here and there so the thought occurred to me that maybe I was actually the one approaching the game incorrectly. Perhaps WeirdWorld has been writing great love stories all along and we just never noticed!

I thought it was really interesting how you can have the MC express guilt for sleeping around when he was talking with Alexis at Tiffany's wedding.
I prefer "The Degenerate", personally. :KEK:

And yeah, I did a throwaway playthrough where only dumb shit happened. In fact, I did one where MC only fucked rich women and wouldn't stick his dick in any poor woman,unless he was forced but he was reluctant the entire time. Purposely tried to let the hobo attack the kids too but Ella, most likely, intervened and some other stuff.

I honestly doubt the actual parent monster is telling the MC to eat Alice; it's likely just a visualisation of the primal instinct to grow stronger, just like the Minyak had a primal instinct to breed. Probably has to do with the unique biology of each superhuman/monster. MC somewhat uniquely (Ella probably can too) relies on feeding on others to increase his power. I doubt every superhuman's primal urge is to kill and feast. Even the Minyak largely ventured forth for a very specific food source, rather than rampaging around.
I mean, they appear and tell the MC "Spawn, devour her" in that scene. Who else would give that command? Why would the MC say "What was that...? Mother, is that you? You want me to.." right before that statement if it was the MC referring to himself? He was asking who that was, which it proceeded to show his monster parent, and then what they wanted him to do, in which they responded to devour her(Alice). In context to that specific scene, it was them telling him to eat alice.

Isn't that theory pretty much a given? Their names, not to mention H.E.R.O.'s description of Tiffany's parent monster as a part of a whole, pretty much confirms it. They're either a part of Valravn's creator, or remains of its (shattered) bride.
Sure but some fans don't agree with that line of thinking like some of us. I also didn't want any of them to think I'm saying it's a fact. While it is highly likely to be the case, as the evidence is piling up for it, it's not confirm yet so I made sure to clarify that it's still a theory, currently.

Well, if we get Valravn's card here, that should reveal most of the pieces to this mystery. Especially, if it reveals what I think it does. That's the one card, besides the MC's or Jake's for level 1 to 2, that I'm looking forward to seeing.
 
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And yeah, I did a throwaway playthrough where only dumb shit happened. In fact, I did one where MC only fucked rich women and wouldn't stick his dick in any poor woman,unless he was forced but he was reluctant the entire time. Purposely tried to let the hobo attack the kids too but Ella, most likely, intervened and some other stuff.
FYI if you allow the hobo to attack the kids, one of the kids uses their power to make you hit the hobo, knocking him out. Its only then that Ella appears and goops the guy.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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FYI if you allow the hobo to attack the kids, one of the kids uses their power to make you hit the hobo, knocking him out. Its only then that Ella appears and goops the guy.
It's actually not exactly clear there, to be frank. It said "he(the boy) begins to reach towards his eye coverings but before he can touch them, I feel my hand lurch forward, shooting out like a cannon and grabbing the hobo by the collar". The sentence didn't end so the "he" was still referring to the boy at that part and the "them" was referring to his eye coverings.

Now, if it was the boy though, and I remembered that part wrong, then that leads to more questions. One being why he didn't just control the hobo instead? The MC was lvl 2, so if the boy could control him then why wouldn't he just flat out control the regular human instead? You also lose points with Ella there so she most likely was watching the entire time. It's more likely to be Ella doing it, at least in my opinion. I could be wrong though but from what I remember, the boy didn't get to use his power there.
 
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It's actually not exactly clear there, to be frank. It said "he(the boy) begins to reach towards his eye coverings but before he can touch them, I feel my hand lurch forward, shooting out like a cannon and grabbing the hobo by the collar". The sentence didn't end so the "he" was still referring to the boy at that part and the "them" was referring to his eye coverings.

Now, if it was the boy though, and I remembered that part wrong, then that leads to more questions. One being why he didn't just control the hobo instead? The MC was lvl 2, so if the boy could control him then why wouldn't he just flat out control the regular human instead? You also lose points with Ella there so she most likely was watching the entire time. It's more likely to be Ella doing it, at least in my opinion. I could be wrong though but from what I remember, the boy didn't get to use his power there.
You are right, it isn't explicitly stated but I was thinking since we don't know what powers all the kids have we don't know which one used their power. Could have been any of the bunch. Could have also been an off screen person. as for the power defense thing, that's always been a little weird. MC's memory reading never seems to trip anyone's radar (other than the super with the explicit mind reading power). In the council meeting at HERO, we lightly touch the Top 5 to get their appearances and no one seems to react.
 
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