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necromater

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You know not of what you speak of Brother Necro!

In the true story Adam was a giga chad incel fighting against Eve the whore of mankind.

Adam fought and fought...but he couldn't withstand the temptation of the hidden gates Eve had in her nether regions but fear not Adam had Eve give birth to many incel warriors that we've seen in the modern day...where Adam failed his children and their descendants continue the fight!

Glory to Adam, Glory to Incelia the land of Incelsssss.

Oh and Adam did a wholeeeee lot of incest but thats a whole 'nother story.
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I play jinzo just in casé you wanted to get even from yesterday XD
 

ItzSyther

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I mean Eve and the others = the female cast; and Adam = the MC.
Brother Necro have the bourgeoisie brainwashed you? True incel virgin gigachads who do nun run know not of the others.

We focus on the grind, the incel grindset brother.

Gotta make sure our fruit stays clean and pure like Ox who just got done trotting around.

If only that whore didn't force herself upon MC's fruit we would have a purity run!
 

Gtdead

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I noticed the helmet choice seems to not do anything.
helmet off / on = no change
ignore helmet choice to watch news? gain +1 corruption
I gained something like 5 corruption this update from watching the news.
This is how the helmet works:

There is a "helmet" variable that can be either true or false.
This variable changes only when the player picks the option to sleep, either with or without the helmet.
If the player sleeps with it, it becomes True
If the player sleeps without it, it becomes False

Every other option keeps the variable as is.
Examples:
If the helmet is already True, and you watch the news, it remains True for the next day.
If the helmet is already False, and you choose to visit Liz, it remains False for the next day.
If the helmet is already True and you choose to sleep without it, it becomes False.

The helmet variable doesn't do anything else. From there on it depends on the specific scene.

Examples:
MC gains 1 corruption if when choosing "Maybe.." with Nyx in the cathedral, unless he wears the helmet.
For the first 5 days after the Diamond Battle, MC's corruption will increase by 1 unless he wears the helmet.
When MC kills Suwu, he will gain corruption unless he wears the helmet.
When MC eats the monster heart, he will gain corruption unless he wears the helmet.
If MC kills the Gorgon with Deryl, he gains corruption if he wears the helmet (yes, it's the opposite in this situation, you gain corruption only if you wear the helmet. Could be a bug.)

Unless the script specifically checks the helmet variable, corruption will increase normally.

So if you want to avoid gaining corruption when watching the news, you need to choose to sleep with helmet on at least once sometime earlier.
 

necromater

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You know not of what you speak of Brother Necro!

In the true story Adam was a giga chad incel fighting against Eve the whore of mankind.

Adam fought and fought...but he couldn't withstand the temptation of the hidden gates Eve had in her nether regions but fear not Adam had Eve give birth to many incel warriors that we've seen in the modern day...where Adam failed his children and their descendants continue the fight!

Glory to Adam, Glory to Incelia the land of Incelsssss.

Oh and Adam did a wholeeeee lot of incest but thats a whole 'nother story.
Oh brother i know how hard is to fight the seduction of a demoness i also tried and failed and the worst part is she gets an ego boost when i call her temptress of man. :mad:
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Finish walkthrough with Danica being alive and this pick my interest.
Who do you think would be stronger:
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Danica (lvl 3) vs Alice (lvl 2)
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Danica (lvl 3) vs Michal (lvl2)
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Danica (lvl 3) vs Deryl (lvl3)
Danica for all three really. My 3rd Queen is too strong for them, currently. Nevermind the level 3 gap she has over Michael and my 4th Queen, Alice, which they can't overcome in the battle without evolving again. This Danica is way more experienced now and has way more control over her power. That's on top of all of the stat increases that come with level 3 Evolution.

Dani doesn't even need to dodge Michael or Alice's attack. She can deflect them with Kryq, which is level 3 in power now, and blast multiple holes in them with X Marks the spot. They're not like the MC, and even if it was the level 2 MC, they just die on the spot. They don't have a speed advantage on her so dodging it at the start is out of the question. Deryl is the only threat and she likely kills him for the same reason. The only superhuman below Level 3 who would give level 3 Dani trouble is Tiffany. She's way too fast and turning into Light might cancel out Dani's X. Though, seeing as the X is ethereal in nature, it might not work and Tiff likely still dies from it, regardless of Light form.

This is also without factoring in new abilities that Danica may have obtained from evolving. She likely doesn't even need to stare at her target anymore. She can probably look at a spot once and just form a connection to it. This would allow her to just feed her power through it and cause the tattoos damage to increase in desired potency.

Answer would be different once Michael and Alice reach level 3 since there's no gap anymore and they'll likely have stronger, more potent, powers. But until then, Danica should slaughter them with ease. This also applies for level 3 MC vs level 2 Alice and Michael as well.
 
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necromater

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I'm still waiting forever to download shit too...steam so slow lately for me :cry:
I should just download the pirate versión and replace the files i just wanna go on a npc murder spree with my wife :( or just play bard and manwhore like always XD
 

lg545

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Danica for all three really. My 3rd Queen is too strong for them, currently. Nevermind the level 3 gap she has over Michael and my 4th Queen, Alice, which they can't overcome in the battle without evolving again. This Danica is way more experienced now and has way more control over her power. That's on top of all of the stat increases that come with level 3 Evolution.
Well, both Alice and Michael have more experience in terms of combat skills. For example - we both remember how Michael was able to defeat monster and Oscar while being a normal human. On contrast Danica lvl 2 fail to beat Oscar. Same for Alice who manage to beat Laurie(lvl 2) while been on lvl 1. Also, both Alice and Michael get top grade monster powers while Danica a mediocre one
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Also dont forget, Danica suck in terms of tactical battle (this is how MC was able several times trick and beat her down). Michael is way better then MC in such kind of things. Danica herself can get cocky and that alone could cost her dearly
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Also, Alice and Michael 100% would be able to damage Danica. Remember how MC on lvl 2 was able to cause damage to Cole (lvl 4). So Danica is not invincible for them (like MC for SIN agents in last update) and she is not tanky type like MC (most likely any damage would be serious for Danica)
 

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Well, both Alice and Michael have more experience in terms of combat skills. For example - we both remember how Michael was able to defeat monster and Oscar while being a normal human. On contrast Danica lvl 2 fail to beat Oscar. Same for Alice who manage to beat Laurie(lvl 2) while been on lvl 1. Also, both Alice and Michael get top grade monster powers while Danica a mediocre one
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Also dont forget, Danica suck in terms of tactical battle (this is how MC was able several times trick and beat her down). Michael is way better then MC in such kind of things. Danica herself can get cocky and that alone could cost her dearly
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Also, Alice and Michael 100% would be able to damage Danica. Remember how MC on lvl 2 was able to cause damage to Cole (lvl 4). So Danica is not invincible for them (like MC for SIN agents in last update) and she is not tanky type like MC (most likely any damage would be serious for Danica)
More combat experience won't save Alice and Michael from getting one shot in a fight where a character doesn't have to engage in a head on attack to kill them. Michael defeated Leigong because of a shit ton of prep and gear provided to him by Tiffany. In a straight up fight, Michael would've lost. In fact, if he didn't have the drug to help him keep going, he would've died to Leigong. This is stuff even Michael admitted himself when Deryl was impressed about it.

As for Michael beating Oscar, it isn't impressive either when you understand the context behind it. Michael took drugs as a child and was already stronger than Level 1 MC(6-7 PP) as a human(Oscar had 12PP). If Oscar truly became a superhuman and didn't get revived as a partial monster, Michael would've lost. As for Dani losing to Oscar, that's because he's too durable and Dani was horrible at using her power smartly. All she had to do was target his eyes to beat him.

As for Danica sucking, in terms of tactical battles, that's already nullified by this update. She's been training in HERO, which is why I said she's more experienced. As she's level 3 now, she has to go on missions and it's been a month since she evolved. Dani before joining HERO lacked combat experience because she's used to one shotting human targets. Now she destroying targets that can press Level 3 MC.

Michael and Alice wouldn't be able to damage Danica in any way that would be a problem before getting holes put in them. Using MC as an example is not only bad but doesn't even support you. He didn't even penetrate Cole, who's Level 3, deep enough to harm him and it healed immediately before burning MC's tail. That's before he got his head exploded. Something neither Alice or Michael would survive.

It's established in the game that a Level 3 can't be beaten by Level 2 or 1. The chances of that happening are slim to none at all. The power and stat difference are too vast. It doesn't even matter if Dani isn't a physical type. Her stats are still increased to the point where she can probably snap Level 2 Superhuman's neck with little to no effort. There's a reason Cole left after the MC reached Level 3 but was eager to kill him when he was just Level 2.

If being a non physical type as Level 3, even with greater stats, mean they're not a problem to Level 2s then why stop there? In your opinion, do you see Michael and Alice at Level 2 beating Nico, Nyx, Malik, Bernhardt, Henri, Deus, and every other Level 5 and 4 Superhuman since they all aren't physical types as well?
 
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Gtdead

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Well, both Alice and Michael have more experience in terms of combat skills. For example - we both remember how Michael was able to defeat monster and Oscar while being a normal human. On contrast Danica lvl 2 fail to beat Oscar. Same for Alice who manage to beat Laurie(lvl 2) while been on lvl 1. Also, both Alice and Michael get top grade monster powers while Danica a mediocre one
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Also dont forget, Danica suck in terms of tactical battle (this is how MC was able several times trick and beat her down). Michael is way better then MC in such kind of things. Danica herself can get cocky and that alone could cost her dearly
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Also, Alice and Michael 100% would be able to damage Danica. Remember how MC on lvl 2 was able to cause damage to Cole (lvl 4). So Danica is not invincible for them (like MC for SIN agents in last update) and she is not tanky type like MC (most likely any damage would be serious for Danica)
Some things to consider:
1) Level 3 superhumans improve their bodies based on their "power stat". Danica can now easily survive attacks that would kill her as a level 2.
2) Alice didn't really beat Laurie, they both lost. She was given the win because she killed Laurie first, but the infection would also kill Alice.
3) Under similar circumstances, Alice would lose if her opponent was Danica (long tunnel, no places to hide etc).
4) If MC can cut Cole without his mantis mechanism, then Alice and Michael can definitely damage Danica. The problem is that she will oneshot them in return. It's very unlikely that a level 2 has enough killing power to oneshot a level 3. Alice has 2 ranged attacks, Graviton Bomb and Collapsar. Both of them take time to conjure, which is probably enough for Danica to kill her.
5)Alice or Michael can't hope to ever fight Danica in melee. MC could do it by creating a huge fist that took time for Danica to cut through, but he didn't even manage to damage her thanks to her "Cross Shield". He just bought time for his tentacle to backstab her.
6) If I had to pick the level 2 with the best chance of beating Danica, that would be Tiffany. She is the only one who can safely engage in melee thanks to her light speed, and even if she somehow gets marked, I don't think think that Danica can harm Tiffany when she turns into light.
 

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Welcome to the family brother just remember that syther has worms , ronald is a furry , Drako is an asshole and they all bite XD
Oh don't worry, by now I got intimately acquainted with all of you. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Well you went through 550 pages....
How long did it take to read that many?
~7-8 hours

A faster reader could probably do it in 4 or 5.

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While we're at it, I thought of some more for us to chew on.
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ItzSyther

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> Artificial Ser- PLOT-Convenience

Not gonna' lie, it leaves a bad taste in mouth when I think about all the close calls and experiences our MC had to go through to reach the next level, only for Michael and Tiffany to basically get it for free because they need to keep up. I know the why and how, still don't like it.

Like, what did Tiffany even do to deserve this? Being born to a rich and influential parent, that's what.

As for Michael, I'm surprised that he was okay with taking the easy way up. Thought he would show at least a bit of resistance to the idea. Disappointing.

Speaking of, if everyone is only able to take 2 serums before they stop working, wouldn't it make more sense to save them for the 4th and 5th Evolution? Was that addressed and I just forgot because of information overload? Probably.

Am also, like many of you, not a fan of our MC's "artificial" evolution, hope that gets cleared up later and not just forgotten.[/SPOILER]
Idk why but even though MC got an artificial evolution via Deryl I wonder why the good doctor Xanthe wrote off the MC being able to get 2 serums its not like what influenced MC to evolve (Deryl's golden goo) is the same as whats in the serum.

Michael is a fella who was willing to take drugs that he knows could destroy his body (see Alice's father as example) so him taking a serum to gain more power is totally within character since well he'd do anything for it.

Hell he even risked his life to gain superhuman powers as well so everything he's done thus far is well within what'd he do imo.

I'm fully convinced as I said in a prior convo forever ago if he could gain powers by murdering a buncha kids he'd do it...cause power although he might question it but fuckkkk it
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We pragmatist are kind of lazy even when breaking our ass is just so we can be even more lazy in the future so yeah complete the task by any means necesary. us in middle of a mission in enemy territory going vidar on the asshole is a dumb move the MC Ain't stupid he just like to do a lot of this thing called not thinking XD
 

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At last i found a cake shop who didn't care about if the cake i order for my imp birthday is a hate crime i have to thank the brother who gave me this work of art
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Thank you dogclapper my wife hates you now by the way XD
 
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mrttao

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Choosing to put the helmet on triggers a flag that the helmet is on. Choosing to not wear the helmet triggers a flag that the helmet is off. That requires the specific choice of go to bed with the helmet off.
Doing something else like making a phone call or watching the news doesn't change the flag.
If the last choice you made about the helmet was to go to bed with the helmet on you shouldn't lose corruption with any of the other choices.
If you did then you found a bug.
So in general for the helmet, choose go to bed with the helmet on the first time, and any other time when your only choice is to either go to bed with the helmet on or off if you want to avoid corruption and choose go to bed with the helmet off if you want to gain corruption.
It is bugged. that is what I am trying to explain to you.

Go to sleep with helmet on sets the helmet flag to on then advances time.
Go to sleep with helmet off sets the helmet flag to off and then advances time.

If, 3 nights in a row, you click on "helmet on". you will sleep for 3 nights with 0 change to your corruption when it should have gone down by 3.
If, 3 nights in a row, you click on "helmet off". you will sleep for 3 nights with 0 change to your corruption when it should have gone up by 3.

actually clicking on [sleep with helmet] or [sleep without helmet] does:
A. sets helmet variable to on
B. advances time without affecting your corruption

The only way to actually make use of the helmet to raise/lower corruption is to watch the news. when you watch the news it:
step 1. plays a news clip
step 2. raises/lowers corruption by 1 based on helmet status
step 3. advances time

Fucking liz or amber at night for example at night would do:
step 1. play sex scene
step 2. advance time

it neither lowers nor raises corruption.

The fixes necessary are:
A. instead of 2 buttons saying "helmet on / helmet off". it should display current helmet choice. have a button to change it which does not advance time. and have a button to sleep.
sample said:
Current Helmet Status: On (not a button)
[Wear Helmet at night] = hidden because it is on right now
[Do not wear Helmet at night] = shown
[Sleep] = calls on sleep() function to advance time and adjust corruption based on your helmet choice.
B. make it so the sex scenes with the sisters calls on sleep() as well. or just has its own check for helmet before advancing time
 
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1) Charlie's Death
It's unlikely MC could do anything about it. He tried to attack Jared but Charlie got in the way with "unbelievable speed". The mantis mechanism is like a compressed coil spring. Once it releases there is no stopping it. MC cocks his arm and releases it. He didn't "follow through" like the scene may suggest by having Charlie speak in between slides. In real time that would look like one continuous and fluid motion. And also there is no corruption check for this scene. It's always the same.

2) Alice Romance
Haha, this scene is one of a kind. Girlfriend wants to practice some flips and she pays in kind, by offering up her boyfriend. At least Tess is a sweetheart, but I get it. The Clover & Demi threesome kind of annoyed me. Wanted more solo scenes with the shortstack.

3) MC's smarts
Yea I've talked about this too. Not learning from memories gets on my nerves. MC has eaten so many people that he should be omniscient by now. Additionally it's obvious that he is supposed to be smart. The speed at which he masters his powers, his adaptability, cunning and understanding in combat. But he can be unreasonably dumb at times, and I think sometimes the dev uses it as a plot device which I kinda dislike? I mean, I understand that sometimes it's necessary, at least from a development standpoint, but some scenes end up being really frustrating.

4) On FMC
Monster hunting as FMC is a bit akward though. I mean, the intoxicating sewer monster that releases hormones to lure females and make their boobs bigger, then eats them and fucks them inside it's stomach..? Dev seems to try a bit too hard to incorporate these scenes. Aside from such scenarios, there isn't really any benefit for MC fighting in his female form, He knows his male form better. However I'd be game for some selfcest. FMC is the sexiest girl in the game, especially since the makeover in Clark's sidequest.

5) On Serum
I think Tiffany and Michael are "tricked" by Xanthe. He offers the serum as if it's some grand reward, but he only cares about studying the Apostles and their spawn. Using the Serum on a level 1 is a colossal waste. Most combat ready superhumans will eventually reach their second. The best time to use the Serum would be for the third evolution because it changes the superhuman fundamentally, and the fifth because of the requirements.

However I don't think the basement could contain 2 level 3 superhumans in evolution trance going at it.
 

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1) Charlie's Death
It's unlikely MC could do anything about it. He tried to attack Jared but Charlie got in the way with "unbelievable speed". The mantis mechanism is like a compressed coil spring. Once it releases there is no stopping it. MC cocks his arm and releases it. He didn't "follow through" like the scene may suggest by having Charlie speak in between slides. In real time that would look like one continuous and fluid motion. And also there is no corruption check for this scene. It's always the same.

2) Alice Romance
Haha, this scene is one of a kind. Girlfriend wants to practice some flips and she pays in kind, by offering up her boyfriend. At least Tess is a sweetheart, but I get it. The Clover & Demi threesome kind of annoyed me. Wanted more solo scenes with the shortstack.

3) MC's smarts
Yea I've talked about this too. Not learning from memories gets on my nerves. MC has eaten so many people that he should be omniscient by now. Additionally it's obvious that he is supposed to be smart. The speed at which he masters his powers, his adaptability, cunning and understanding in combat. But he can be unreasonably dumb at times, and I think sometimes the dev uses it as a plot device which I kinda dislike? I mean, I understand that sometimes it's necessary, at least from a development standpoint, but some scenes end up being really frustrating.

4) On FMC
Monster hunting as FMC is a bit akward though. I mean, the intoxicating sewer monster that releases hormones to lure females and make their boobs bigger, then eats them and fucks them inside it's stomach..? Dev seems to try a bit too hard to incorporate these scenes. Aside from such scenarios, there isn't really any benefit for MC fighting in his female form, He knows his male form better. However I'd be game for some selfcest. FMC is the sexiest girl in the game, especially since the makeover in Clark's sidequest.

5) On Serum
I think Tiffany and Michael are "tricked" by Xanthe. He offers the serum as if it's some grand reward, but he only cares about studying the Apostles and their spawn. Using the Serum on a level 1 is a colossal waste. Most combat ready superhumans will eventually reach their second. The best time to use the Serum would be for the third evolution because it changes the superhuman fundamentally, and the fifth because of the requirements.

However I don't think the basement could contain 2 level 3 superhumans in evolution trance going at it.
Truth is, the MC was never a genius to start with, he was just the average joe looking to live by, him absorbing people doesn't mean he all of a sudden get all their life experience, it means at the moment he touches them he has a brief glimpse into their memory, hence why he is able to get the info when he infiltrates the place, because he talks to people or gets a reaction from them so that said memory is the freshest in their mind and he can easily see it(talking about murder or other topics with the guards while near them, killing and absorbing the 3 security superhumans info because they where alerted and had to think on security strategies to counter the MC)...

As for Tiff and Michael, Xanthe used the Serum only on Michael lvl 2 if im not mistaken(correct me if im wrong because i don't know Michael scenes by memory) as for Tiff he had to use it to turn her and the second time to evolve her because since she was not choosen by a monster i guess her evolution stagnates too often and Xanthe is not the most patient guy...
 
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