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lg545

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Once again, you not liking the answer doesn't mean I never said it. Her Kryq block every attack Michael sends at her. Him hiding behind a smoke screen and throwing light grenades doesn't benefit him at all. He can't penetrate her Kryq which is Level 3 and acts autonomously. The smoke screen fades over time as well. What he going to do, run around the entire time? Danica doesn't have to move at all. Let me guess, Michael going to call a nuclear strike next?
Land traps and lure her to them. Or try to poison her. I doubt Kryq could save from that. This is a point - guys like Michail and Deryl are very crafty with all sorts of tricks and not some sort of idiots who blindly charge face on
A month is also not "fresh". She doesn't need 20 years to get used to her powers. A week or 2 at most.
It fresh. You be consider as fresh until the point where you find you limits and master your abilities (like MC master his abilities +\- during his fight against Valvaran)
 

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Land traps and lure her to them. Or try to poison her. I doubt Kryq could save from that. This is a point - guys like Michail and Deryl are very crafty with all sorts of tricks and not some sort of idiots who blindly charge face on

It fresh. You be consider as fresh until the point where you find you limits and master your abilities (like MC master his abilities +\- during his fight against Valvaran)
What part of Danica doesn't have to move at all don't you get? How is Michael going to lure Danica into chasing him when she has the advantage of long range attacks and multiple defenses that floats around her? She already learned from her mistake fighting the MC.

Where is Michael going to get poison strong enough to affect Level 3 Danica? You do know superhumans aren't that effected by human level poison right? Even at Level 2, it took a while for Jake to succumb to it. If you say radiation, she likely can resist it via her stats and power purging it. Michael doing that uses up his power as well and gives up his position, causing him to get tagged by her X Mark. He doesn't have a speed advantage over her so he won't be dodging and if he used a smokescreen first, it would blow his own cover in the process by using a radiation attack. Spamming it over and over again would make him run out of power too.

This is still without knowing Danica full powers she gained from evolution, by the way. For all we know, she can fly via her Kryq now. That's on top her better reflexes and stuff she hasn't even shown yet. It's a stomp against Michael.
 
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What part of Danica doesn't have to move at all don't you get? How is Michael going to lure Danica into chasing him when she has the advantage of long range attacks and multiple defenses that floats around her? She already learned from her mistake fighting the MC.

Where is Michael going to get poison strong enough to affect Level 3 Danica? You do know superhumans aren't that effected by human level poison right? Even at Level 2, it took a while for Jake to succumb to it. If you say radiation, she likely can resist it via her stats and power purging it. Michael doing that uses up his power as well and gives up his position, causing him to get tagged by her X Mark. He doesn't have a speed advantage over her so he won't be dodging and if he used a smokescreen first, it would blow his own cover in the process by using a radiation attack. Spamming it over and over again would make him run out of power too.

This is still without knowing Danica full powers she gained from evolution, by the way. For all we know, she can fly via her Kryq now. That's on top her better reflexes and stuff she hasn't even shown yet. It's a stomp against Michael.
"Overconfidence is the root cause of failure"

Danica relies too much on her ocular powers leaving herself open to many easy strategies to defeat her(hence why MC defeated her with a simple bait and switch)...

Michael on the other hand had to rely on his human side for the longest time and with that he became a good strategist and knows his body capabilities too well(shown in his battle with Deryl), he could easily use cover tactics and devise a method to distract or even simply blind Danica like throwing rock debree dust at high speed wich would render Danica power useless to defend against since she doesn't have the eye speed to destroy billions of rock particles...

Danica is far from being OP, she's too overconfident.
 

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Whomst the fuck calls it an "0.5 caliber" round?
Did you mean a (.)50 caliber round/ a '50 cal'?

And to get on my impregnation thing again, if these homo's are supposed to be the next evolutionary step for humanity it might be kinda essential for them to be able to procreate. An evolutionary branch that can't tends to be a dead-end.
 
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"Overconfidence is the root cause of failure"

Danica relies too much on her ocular powers leaving herself open to many easy strategies to defeat her(hence why MC defeated her with a simple bait and switch)...

Michael on the other hand had to rely on his human side for the longest time and with that he became a good strategist and knows his body capabilities too well(shown in his battle with Deryl), he could easily use cover tactics and devise a method to distract or even simply blind Danica like throwing rock debree dust at high speed wich would render Danica power useless to defend against since she doesn't have the eye speed to destroy billions of rock particles...

Danica is far from being OP, she's too overconfident.
You would have a point if any of this actually applied to current Danica. She's been thoroughly humbled by the MC and you can tell from her behavior this update. Just because Michael can't overcome her in a head to head fight doesn't mean I'm saying "she's the strongest in game". It's like some of you purposely ignore what I said about Tiffany being too fast for her.

You're all making up every single excuse and scenario to where Michael has the advantage and everything goes his way instead just admitting that Danica one shots him. It's actually pretty telling when you automatically think that he's in an area that benefits him and his fighting style. Like we're really to the point where you're basically saying Michael will throw dirt in Danica's eyes as if all of her power requires her eyes. You forgot her Kryq don't work via eye sight and that he still wouldn't be able to penetrate them as they act autonomously to defend her.

Now, let's ask you the real questions. What if there's no covers for Michael to hide behind, then what? What about if it's an arena made entirely of metal? What if it's a direct encounter? If Michael is so capable of beating Danica why are you guys trying so hard to build scenarios where she's purposely at a disadvantage? I'm sure you notice how I don't have to set up some elaborate backdrop for them to fight in while you guys are twisting and turning to give Michael the high ground.

Danica isn't "overconfident" it's more like Michael stans think he can overcome every scenario that they create in his favor because he can prep and is good at strategies. When the truth is, Michael loses, badly, because he's a Level 2 fighting a Level 3, with much greater stats and the ability to one shot him with her X Mark. It's shouldn't be that hard for some of you to admit something this simple but for some reason you guys refuse to say it.

Everyone else is fine with Michael losing because they know the context of Level 3 having an advantage on him. They accept it and move on because they know, just like myself, that Michael at Level 3 would stomp Danica. There's no gap, so he wins in a head to head confrontation. So does Alice. See, I don't have a problem saying this but you guys can't accept that Level 2 Michael loses because of established rules within the game and the fact that Dani can oneshot him.
 

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What part of Danica doesn't have to move at all don't you get? How is Michael going to lure Danica into chasing him when she has the advantage of long range attacks and multiple defenses that floats around her? She already learned from her mistake fighting the MC.
Part where Danica is cocky bitch to arrogant and confident in her powers for just sit and wait
Where is Michael going to get poison strong enough to affect Level 3 Danica? You do know superhumans aren't that effected by human level poison right? Even at Level 2, it took a while for Jake to succumb to it. If you say radiation, she likely can resist it via her stats and power purging it. Michael doing that uses up his power as well and gives up his position, causing him to get tagged by her X Mark. He doesn't have a speed advantage over her so he won't be dodging and if he used a smokescreen first, it would blow his own cover in the process by using a radiation attack. Spamming it over and over again would make him run out of power too.
Probably from Deryl, like he already did earlier (and from his chimeras - those spiky ones)
 
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You would have a point if any of this actually applied to current Danica. She's been thoroughly humbled by the MC and you can tell from her behavior this update. Just because Michael can't overcome her in a head to head fight doesn't mean I'm saying "she's the strongest in game". It's like some of you purposely ignore what I said about Tiffany being too fast for her.

You're all making up every single excuse and scenario to where Michael has the advantage and everything goes his way instead just admitting that Danica one shots him. It's actually pretty telling when you automatically think that he's in an area that benefits him and his fighting style. Like we're really to the point where you're basically saying Michael will throw dirt in Danica's eyes as if all of her power requires her eyes. You forgot her Kryq don't work via eye sight and that he still wouldn't be able to penetrate them as they act autonomously to defend her.

Now, let's ask you the real questions. What if there's no covers for Michael to hide behind, then what? What about if it's an arena made entirely of metal? What if it's a direct encounter? If Michael is so capable of beating Danica why are you guys trying so hard to build scenarios where she's purposely at a disadvantage? I'm sure you notice how I don't have to set up some elaborate backdrop for them to fight in while you guys are twisting and turning to give Michael the high ground.

Danica isn't "overconfident" it's more like Michael stans think he can overcome every scenario that they create in his favor because he can prep and is good at strategies. When the truth is, Michael loses, badly, because he's a Level 2 fighting a Level 3, with much greater stats and the ability to one shot him with her X Mark. It's shouldn't be that hard for some of you to admit something this simple but for some reason you guys refuse to say it.

Everyone else is fine with Michael losing because they know the context of Level 3 having an advantage on him. They accept it and move on because they know, just like myself, that Michael at Level 3 would stomp Danica. There's no gap, so he wins in a head to head confrontation. So does Alice. See, I don't have a problem saying this but you guys can't accept that Level 2 Michael loses because of established rules within the game and the fact that Dani can oneshot him.
Im not making excuses, im just saying as i see it, MC was a lvl 2 and defeated enemies that were considered power wise lvl 3 so saying that a lvl 2 with good strategy, tactics and that knows its limits can't beat a lvl 3 that in all its scenes at lvl 2 shows a complete lack of self preservation is just foolish, like i said before, im not basing my theory in some hypothetical scenario based on things that are barelly there, my theory is based on all we've seen so far...

Im completely fine with Danica beating Michael into submission, what im not fine is with a hypothetical scenario where Michael turns his brain off and the battle becomes a measurement of lvl when we know that lvl means nothing since the MC at lvl 1 defeated Danica at lvl 2...

So yeah, im not making any excuses, just pointing facts that i've seen while playing the game.
 

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Im not making excuses, im just saying as i see it, MC was a lvl 2 and defeated enemies that were considered power wise lvl 3 so saying that a lvl 2 with good strategy, tactics and that knows its limits can't beat a lvl 3 that in all its scenes at lvl 2 shows a complete lack of self preservation is just foolish, like i said before, im not basing my theory in some hypothetical scenario based on things that are barelly there, my theory is based on all we've seen so far...

Im completely fine with Danica beating Michael into submission, what im not fine is with a hypothetical scenario where Michael turns his brain off and the battle becomes a measurement of lvl when we know that lvl means nothing since the MC at lvl 1 defeated Danica at lvl 2...

So yeah, im not making any excuses, just pointing facts that i've seen while playing the game.
You truly believe Danica isn't capable of growing pass her defeat don't you? She quite literally took the MC's advice in this very update and attacked from behind. Something which the MC told her she should do to win more often instead of being cocky.

As for Michael. He isn't "turning his brain off" though. Michael in game isn't stupid enough to fight current Danica in the first place. The problem is you assume everything is going to go in Michael's favor and that the setting benefits his fighting style. You don't even use an example from Michael himself but from the MC. In every major fight that Michael has been in, it all came down to a head to head confrontation.

Mentioning the MC doesn't help your case. Monster Deryl had many caveats, which ended in a draw anyway before they both evolved. The Level 2 MC has never beat a Level 3 person in game. Before you even mention Valravn, his power was draining over time and the MC only outlasted him as he was weakened. That's one single instance and even Michael wouldn't have survived those confrontation.

We also do quite literally know Levels mean something. Level 1 can kill Level 2. That's stated clearly in game by almost everyone. It's a moot point. The stat growth isn't that drastic compared to Level 3. It's why Deryl was able to beat Level 2 MC. Where in the game did you hear and see that a Level 3 can be beaten by Level 1 and 2? Where in game did you hear Level 4 can be beaten by Level 1 and 2? I'm not going to even mention Level 5. The gap between Level 1 and 2 isn't as large as Level 2 to Level 3.
 
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You truly believe Danica isn't capable of growing pass her defeat don't you? She quite literally took the MC's advice in this very update and attacked from behind. Something which the MC told her she should do to win more often instead of being cocky
And before this , she just brag about how awesome she is, how easily she can beat MC now and that sole reason she loose earlier was because MC was a sneaky bitch
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Also, enemy she defeat was a dumb monster in tight straight fucking tunnel. No need to have big brain to something like that (MC and Deryl duo beat this monster on more clever way then Danica)
The Level 2 MC has never beat a Level 3 person in game. Before you even mention Valravn, his power was draining over time and the MC only outlasted him as he was weakened
Nope. MC was able to cause him a real damage and that is why he was able to outstand him
 

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And before this , she just brag about how awesome she is, how easily she can beat MC now and that sole reason she loose earlier was because MC was a sneaky bitch
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Also, enemy she defeat was a dumb monster in tight straight fucking tunnel. No need to have big brain to something like that (MC and Deryl duo beat this monster on more clever way then Danica)

Nope. MC was able to cause him a real damage and that is why he was able to outstand him
So what? Nico bragged about how awesome she was even though MC was the one that located the Asura. You act like banter isn't a thing or allowed at all between characters. The fact that you said the "snake" is dumb but it managed to turn the MC to stone and smash him into pieces ruins your entire argument. If the Gorgon is dumb then what does that say about the MC?

MC's "real" damage is based primarily on play style. He literally can fail to beat Val in the encounter and get saved by Brianna. Don't go pretending like that don't exist while trying to argue alternate scenes with MC and Deryl. :KEK:
 
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You truly believe Danica isn't capable of growing pass her defeat don't you? She quite literally took the MC's advice in this very update and attacked from behind. Something which the MC told her she should do to win more often instead of being cocky.

As for Michael. He isn't "turning his brain off" though. Michael in game isn't stupid enough to fight current Danica in the first place. The problem is you assume everything is going to go in Michael's favor and that the setting benefits his fighting style. You don't even use an example from Michael himself but from the MC. In every major fight that Michael has been in, it all came down to a head to head confrontation.

Mentioning the MC doesn't help your case. Monster Deryl had many caveats, which ended in a draw anyway before they both evolved. The Level 2 MC has never beat a Level 3 person in game. Before you even mention Valravn, his power was draining over time and the MC only outlasted him as he was weakened. That's one single instance and even Michael wouldn't have survived those confrontation.

We also do quite literally know Levels mean something. Level 1 can kill Level 2. That's stated clearly in game by almost everyone. It's a moot point. The stat growth isn't that drastic compared to Level 3. It's why Deryl was able to beat Level 2 MC. Where in the game did you hear and see that a Level 3 can be beaten by Level 1 and 2? Where in game did you hear Level 4 can be beaten by Level 1 and 2? I'm not going to even mention Level 5. The gap between Level 1 and 2 isn't as large as Level 2 to Level 3.
Now you're just making stuff up and putting words in my mouth, i never said a level 1 can beat a lvl 4, i said as a fact that a lvl 1 beated a lvl 2 and Deryl vs Michael was not a head to head confrontation but ok, by the way im not assuming said person can't grow, im just saying that a battle between Danica and Michael can go 50/50, there is no way of saying "lvl 3 danica will 100% defeat lvl 2 Michael" since i believe Michael doesn't even see Danica as a threat let alone give her any importance to want to fight her, at least he doesn't show it in the current game...

Reality is i don't assume anything, the only one assuming scenarios is the person that started this pointless topic, the only thing im sure is that Danica and Michael don't care about each other that much to even hint at a confrontation let alone a fight...

I base my theories on actions performed up to a point and not on "she might that...", "he could this...", no disrespect but i close my argument here since chances are this will go nowhere except to a cup of Chamomile tea to calm everyones brain sockets...
 

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Now you're just making stuff up and putting words in my mouth, i never said a level 1 can beat a lvl 4, i said as a fact that a lvl 1 beated a lvl 2 and Deryl vs Michael was not a head to head confrontation but ok, by the way im not assuming said person can't grow, im just saying that a battle between Danica and Michael can go 50/50, there is no way of saying "lvl 3 danica will 100% defeat lvl 2 Michael" since i believe Michael doesn't even see Danica as a threat let alone give her any importance to want to fight her, at least he doesn't show it in the current game...

Reality is i don't assume anything, the only one assuming scenarios is the person that started this pointless topic, the only thing im sure is that Danica and Michael don't care about each other that much to even hint at a confrontation let alone a fight...

I base my theories on actions performed up to a point and not on "she might that...", "he could this...", no disrespect but i close my argument here since chances are this will go nowhere except to a cup of Chamomile tea to calm everyones brain sockets...
Fuck you...
I'm drinking it out of Hangover :(.
Also i love tea :)
 

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Now you're just making stuff up and putting words in my mouth, i never said a level 1 can beat a lvl 4, i said as a fact that a lvl 1 beated a lvl 2 and Deryl vs Michael was not a head to head confrontation but ok, by the way im not assuming said person can't grow, im just saying that a battle between Danica and Michael can go 50/50, there is no way of saying "lvl 3 danica will 100% defeat lvl 2 Michael" since i believe Michael doesn't even see Danica as a threat let alone give her any importance to want to fight her, at least he doesn't show it in the current game...

Reality is i don't assume anything, the only one assuming scenarios is the person that started this pointless topic, the only thing im sure is that Danica and Michael don't care about each other that much to even hint at a confrontation let alone a fight...

I base my theories on actions performed up to a point and not on "she might that...", "he could this...", no disrespect but i close my argument here since chances are this will go nowhere except to a cup of Chamomile tea to calm everyones brain sockets...
I didn't put words in you mouth though. You said Levels don't matter by using Level 1 and 2 as example. So I pointed out that they indeed do matter. By giving you multiple reasons based off of facts not theories or opinions. The game supports Level 3 being superior to Level 2, not the opposite.

Deryl fight against Michael isn't a major encounter. They fought in a simulation. Michael fight against Oscar ended in a direct fight. Michael's fight against Leigong ended in a direct fight. Michael's fight against the Chimera Deryl ended in a direct fight. How is any of what I said based off of feelings and theories?

I'm also fine with dropping because I don't see any reason to drag this on. It's clear that Level 3 Danica beats current Michael. It's fine that you think it's 50/50 even though the game tells you Level 3 > 2 but at least you're capable of admitting he still can lose. Now on to the next....
 

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So what? Nico bragged about how awesome she was even though MC was the one that located the Asura. You act like banter isn't a thing or allowed at all between characters. The fact that you said the "snake" is dumb but it managed to turn the MC to stone and smash him into pieces ruins your entire argument. If the Gorgon is dumb then what does that say about the MC?
Nico brag about how awesome she is and that almost kill her in fight against Ella. This where arrogance can bring you
The fact that you said the "snake" is dumb but it managed to turn the MC to stone and smash him into pieces ruins your entire argument.
Monster use its ability. What so strange for you here? It's kinda normal
MC's "real" damage is based primarily on play style. He literally can fail to beat Val in the encounter and get saved by Brianna
Even in this scenario Valvaran is heavily wounded at this point of time by MC so even Briana (normal human with pathetic gun) was able to make a difference here. It is not like MC was a punchbag while Valvaran did not get even a scratch
 

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Nico brag about how awesome she is and that almost kill her in fight against Ella. This where arrogance can bring you
Completely wrong context dude but I'm not surprised.
Monster use its ability. What so strange for you here? It's kinda normal
Ah, so now you want to be oblivious? You talked real big about the monster being dumb but somehow the MC could stop it from blasting him into pieces and nearly killing him.
Even in this scenario Valvaran is heavily wounded at this point of time by MC so even Briana (normal human with pathetic gun) was able to make a difference here. It is not like MC was a punchbag while Valvaran did not get even a scratch
MC was literally about to die but do pop off.

This conversation has run it's course. You're free to believe your own truth. I don't even know why I let this drag out for this long.
 
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Completely wrong context dude but I'm not surprised.

Ah, so now you want to be oblivious? You talked real big about the monster being dumb but somehow the MC could stop it from blasting him into pieces and nearly killing him.

MC was literally about to die but do pop off.

This conversation has run it's course. You're free to believe your own truth. I don't even know why I let this drag out for this long.
The asshole cravings ? :p
 
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The asshole cravings ? :p
Bruh, I'm not even being an ass here lol. This shit really did drag on longer than it should have for something that's stated and established in game. I'm just done with the conversation. They're free to believe their own truth. :KEK:
 

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Completely wrong context dude but I'm not surprised.
Nope. This is about over confidence. Nico was sure that she would able to take Ella out with oneshot
Same thing with Danica
Ah, so now you want to be oblivious? You talked real big about the monster being dumb but somehow the MC could stop it from blasting him into pieces and nearly killing him.
Well, he also get several times under Deryl chimera blast and get wounded very badly. Things like this happen in battle. It is not one-side safari, you know?
MC was literally about to die but do pop off.
Just like Valvaran, when from your point of view he should be perfectly fine because his lvl is higher
This conversation has run it's course. You're free to believe your own truth. I don't even know why I let this drag out for this long.
My truth is that lvl3 give you a huge advantage, but it is not automatic win. Thats all. You deny it and stand on point "Lvl 3 win with cumblast just because it lvl 3"
 
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