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I just remembered that I had something to say about the 7th. I'm laying here in the dark trying to get some sleep and my tired brain kept bugging me until I remembered I had to post this. Anyway, Dani might actually be apart of the 7th's line. That's the take I thought of yesterday.

We learned a while ago that during evolution, you can potentially see the progenitor of the entire line during the process. People under the 8th said they saw it, even though they aren't direct descendents like Tiffany. Alice saw the 6th during her evolution as well. So with Danica's 3rd evolution, which was a natural one, she likely saw an Apostle for the first time. From her retelling, it was a much horrible experience than the previous.

Now, here's why I think that she had to have saw an Apostle. The M65-Gestas wasn't that powerful when the MC(Level 2) saw it in his dream. Sure, he had a reaction to it but it wasn't as bad as when he saw an Apostle. So it's maybe a B-Rank monster. Yet, Danica reaching Level 3 said it was an awful experience, when she's basically equal with it now. She would've already saw it during her 2nd Evolution, so why would she be bothered by it on her 3rd? That's what led me to believe she saw an Apostle this time.

Here's my speculation for why it's the 7th. While Dani's powers are called "Cross Light" her X Marks the Spot ability is actually black. Her papa, Gestas, black cross resembles the same energy that Valravn gives off. Then there's the important fact that Danica is on the kill list of the Arbiter/Eye Boy. That was always odd. Jake, Kenny and Bailey I get because they're all related to the 1st, mostly. Yet, Danica was an odd one to mention.

With her power name, it could be assumed that she's mostly from the 8th's line, among other minor combinations, but it's possible that the 7th can pass on the Light trait itself to it's progeny. Since we already know it's possible to cross inherit the twin traits and that the 7th likely snuffed out his twin or put them in a deep sleep. It's possible that he spawned monsters that inherited light or went around corrupting the 8th's line with his darkness, altering them. It would explain why Gestas looks like it's pinned to the black cross and why it's covered in black. Something that Dani also noted while describing it. That it seemed to possibly be done by another monster.

The process of elimination that led to it being our Dark Lord over the other Apostles. From all of the evolutions we know about, the common theme is that it's either a comforting feeling or dreadful. Jake(fear) and Deryl(failed) showed the dreadful side while MC, Alice and Michael all said they felt blissful. We can then eliminate 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th. Her power is too distinct to be of those lines. The 1st and possibly the 5th are eliminated as well. That only leaves 7th - 12th. 8th would be the most likely candidate but they're missing, and the other twins after are implied to be dead or missing as well. So she likely didn't see them. That means the 7th is the only one left.

The visuals imply that Gestas is of the 7th's line or warped in some way but Dani's shown power and name implies it's apart of the 8th's. It's called Cross Light but they're formed from her black tattoos and her strongest ability forms as a black X. If she truly saw an Apostle, the only one available that lines up with her power is the 7th. It would also explain why it was an awful experience for her. MC just dreaming of the 7th terrified him. If Dani actually saw him appear during her evolution, it would undoubtedly be a horrible experience.

Anyway, that's my early morning theory. The idea hit me a few days back while speculating about what powers Dani could gain and actually thinking about where it could go. By the way, this is pure speculation. It's possible that the Gestas is much powerful than I or the MC gave it credit for. We also don't know anything about the 9th Apostle and beyond so if she did saw one, there's nothing to say it wasn't one of them. This also hinges on her seeing one in the first place. Maybe she just thought the evolution was just the worse because she could remember parts of it now on her 3rd Evolution.
 

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Lol so is nico going to die? because zack Warned her at the table after cuntboy tv fuck up
And you would think she learned her lesson after ella kicked her ass but i don't see it maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm overthinking or maybe i want Drako to make a text wall of why the reason of his simping would not die XD. Other than we have to pork her first for the plot armor to fail XD
 
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Meh, if Mommy 4th can get snuffed by the 7th then there's no reason to assume Nico couldn't die at some point. I love Nico but I don't think she's invincible or can't be killed. You'll have to work hard to catch and kill her but it's doable. Don't really need a wall of text for something obvious like this, to be frank.
 
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Meh, if Mommy 4th can get snuffed by the 7th then there's no reason to assume Nico couldn't die at some point. I love Nico but I don't think she's invincible or can't be killed. You'll have to work hard to catch and kill her but it's doable. Don't really need a wall of text for something obvious like this, to be frank.
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Ok. Fuckers if alice is gravity and Tiffany is light who wins ? And dont say Tiffany because light has no mass because that shit has as much base as the modern feminism to many holes XD
 

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Ok. Fuckers if alice is gravity and Tiffany is light who wins ? And dont say Tiffany because light has no mass because that shit has as much base as the modern feminism to many holes XD
No real point in answering this specific question. I say that because we'll likely see it happen soon in game. Alice and Tiffany has been butting heads for a while and it's been building towards their confrontation. They still haven't met since they've become superhumans, somehow.

We also don't know what Tiffany or Alice have fully gained/unlocked with their Level 2 evolution. Alice could have more than what was shown during hers and Tiffany could have a few game changing surprises with hers.

What we could say from what we've seen is Tiffany now can hit harder and her Light can now be used to attack, even while in her Light Form. The speed is undoubtedly in her court as well. Yet, with Alice, she's much more diverse than before and has a lot of options across multiple ranges. So, if she can actually hit Tiffany, she'll do some serious damage. Especially with her strongest attacks. The problem would be hitting Tiffany though.

For now, you could say Tiff or Alice. Me personally, I think it'll end in a draw during their fight. They'll probably fight for a whole day before making up with each other. While there's some bad blood, it's not that brutal to where they'll kill each other. If it was, they would've already did it, in my opinion. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

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The corpse fuckers would probably be pleased if we got to fuck her 'dead' body I mean come on Weird really set it up for em fr fr
I'll happily help Ella get that request scratched off her perverted bucket list.

I still think that's one of the ways she's going to revive herself. Snow had a reaction when we fucked her tits. It wouldn't even surprise me if Ella gets jump started a bit from some necro. Our power might get absorbed into her and wake her up. The only problem would be, and it's hilarious, how the MC is going to explain himself to everyone if he gets caught in the act. HERO might can overlook the monster fucking but I don't think they'll look pass corpse fucking. :KEK:
 

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I'd wager Tiffany & Alice would be even.



Realistically Alice SHOULD win given her pill developed body, experience in combat, compatibility, etc.

As opposed to Tiffany who struggled with her power almost immediately, and had to train a bunch to get her bearings. Even within the Diamond Massacre she didn't play a combat role to gain experience.

Factor in that Tiffany also jumped the gone with the stupid Xanthe Serum and now has to learn up on her unfamiliar new skills without the proper development foundation (i.e us growing a tail, having differ armors and Ella not); it doesn't bode well JUST relying on speed, even doing so in her evolutionary fight. She's a less refined Zenitsu at this point it's almost laughable she got to Lvl 2 in the first place, yet another reason I hate the Serum for its glorified "time skips".


But as DrakoGhoul has said; they have been butting heads/been rivals essentially since the dawn of time. Naruto v Sasuke, Natsu v Gray, Izuku v Bakugo, etc. etc. Alice is the MC in this case that SHOULD win but the plot will always keep them at even odds for the back and forth and to keep people like us; guessing as we are now. As much as I'd love to see Alice beat Tif's ass, I also wouldn't mind the alternative cat fights every now and then whether that be over beef or who gets my beef.
 
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No real point in answering this specific question. I say that because we'll likely see it happen soon in game. Alice and Tiffany has been butting heads for a while and it's been building towards their confrontation. They still haven't met since they've become superhumans, somehow.

We also don't know what Tiffany or Alice have fully gained/unlocked with their Level 2 evolution. Alice could have more than what was shown during hers and Tiffany could have a few game changing surprises with hers.

What we could say from what we've seen is Tiffany now can hit harder and her Light can now be used to attack, even while in her Light Form. The speed is undoubtedly in her court as well. Yet, with Alice, she's much more diverse than before and has a lot of options across multiple ranges. So, if she can actually hit Tiffany, she'll do some serious damage. Especially with her strongest attacks. The problem would be hitting Tiffany though.

For now, you could say Tiff or Alice. Me personally, I think it'll end in a draw during their fight. They'll probably fight for a whole day before making up with each other. While there's some bad blood, it's not that brutal to where they'll kill each other. If it was, they would've already did it, in my opinion. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I'd wager Tiffany & Alice would be even.



Realistically Alice SHOULD win given her pill developed body, experience in combat, compatibility, etc.

As opposed to Tiffany who struggled with her power almost immediately, and had to train a bunch to get her bearings. Even within the Diamond Massacre she didn't play a combat role to gain experience.

Factor in that Tiffany also jumped the gone with the stupid Xanthe Serum and now has to learn up on her unfamiliar new skills without the proper development foundation (i.e us growing a tail, having differ armors and Ella not); it doesn't bode well JUST relying on speed, even doing so in her evolutionary fight. She's a less refined Zenitsu at this point it's almost laughable she got to Lvl 2 in the first place, yet another reason I hate the Serum for its glorified "time skips".


But as DrakoGhoul has said; they have been butting heads/been rivals essentially since the dawn of time. Naruto v Sasuke, Natsu v Gray, Izuku v Bakugo, etc. etc. Alice is the MC in this case that SHOULD win but the plot will always keep them at even odds for the back and forth and to keep people like us; guessing as we are now. As much as I'd love to see Alice beat Tif's ass, I also wouldn't mind the alternative cat fights every now and then whether that be over beef or who gets my beef.
Alice: you are a liar and a snake i don't trust you
Tiffany: i also fucked your boyfriend
Alice:..........
Tifanny: multiple times.
Alice:
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Ok. Fuckers if alice is gravity and Tiffany is light who wins ? And dont say Tiffany because light has no mass because that shit has as much base as the modern feminism to many holes XD
My money is on Alice, not just because I simp (wich I do) but because:
1)Experience
2) Just make a black hole and checkmate light :KEK:
3) I think Alice just needs 1 lucky hit in, I dont remember Tiff having good defence, other then being fast.
4) Alice has some good AoE
So yeah, lack of experience and shit defence would make a 1 hit K.O.
 

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My money is on Alice, not just because I simp (wich I do) but because:
1)Experience
2) Just make a black hole and checkmate light :KEK:
3) I think Alice just needs 1 lucky hit in, I dont remember Tiff having good defence, other then being fast.
4) Alice has some good AoE
So yeah, lack of experience and shit defence would make a 1 hit K.O.
This is a wholeeeee lot of simpin my brother here have this:
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The true best girl

But on a serious note the blackhole thing can be avoided...if I remember right light can be behind a blackhole (at least thats what was supposedly recently discovered) just pop behind Alice and slap her booty...easy wins fr fr.

But on a serious note Alice would win but given enough time I'm sure Tiffany could beat Alice depending how her powers grow, I mean Tiffany's monster parent while a dead boi is still one of da big boys yeah? (The numbered) while all Alice has for a parent is the fairy (still a strong parent but still) I feel like that'd might limit her growth in the long run since her parent wasn't one of da numbered like with MC, Jake, or Michael.

^To follow up on dis, whatever monster granted a superhuman their power basically sets how fast that superhuman will grow be it a regular monster, a raised, or a numbered it basically (I mean we see this with MC already and Jake too to an extent).

Alice's parent aka the fairy is a raised, a monster raised by a numbered (Alice refers to dat numbered as grandfather I believe) which I believe will limit how fast she grows in comparison to Tiffany whose parent is a numbered albeit...dead?

Generation of whatever monster it is also might have an impact...from what I can tell Fairy is a gen 1 so that's a benefit to Alice but doesn't beat bein directly granted powers from a numbered like with MC or Jake.
 
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Sorry Syther, but betwen Alice and corpsefucking (with a bit of monster breeding sprinkled in), I have no energy left for dogfucking.

I kinda hope the whole monster parent doesn't turn out to be true, just because it makes it a bit too...simple? boring? if we can guess how far a character can go just based on the parents.
 

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I kinda hope the whole monster parent doesn't turn out to be true, just because it makes it a bit too...simple? boring? if we can guess how far a character can go just based on the parents.
Even if it is true that monster parents impact shiz it doesn't guarantee ultimate victory.

The MC despite having numbered parents has been defeated plenty of times via bad ends and even if you don't count those he still got his ass handed to him by other folks like Klaus who from what I can tell do not have a numbered parent.

The true king in the world of superhuman is "experience" so as long as you got that you should be good to go but having a lot of power helps too.

The MC has earned every victory under his belt due to him training constantly and learning from each fight by adapting new things. It is for sure that his growth would be a lot slower if it wasn't for his parents but even then he'd most likely gain everything he has now but at a slower rate (its pretty likely he would of died earlier on in the story if he had a regular monster as a parent due to his growth being too slow or rather, the normal growth if you will).

I'm pretty sure Gtdead and DrakoGhoul have talked about this very subject in the past in regards to the MC's growth being faster than the norm due to his numbered parents and gives credence to the idea that a monster parent impacts the growth of a superhuman.

Idk the exact rate of how the raised messes with the growth but I'm sure they might.
 
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Heh lured for one and got two walls lol
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That's not a wall of text :KEK:. That Danica one was a wall of text.

Alice: you are a liar and a snake i don't trust you
Tiffany: i also fucked your boyfriend
Alice:..........
Tifanny: multiple times.
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Alice is a Cuck Queen so it would probably lead to her baiting Tiffany to "prove it". Tiffany thinking she has the upper hand would go and do it to be spiteful. Only to have Alice destroying her own pussy as she watches MC fuck Tiffany into oblivion. Probably would give him an ear piece too, so she can give him commands during the entire thing.
 

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The MC has earned every victory under his belt due to him training constantly and learning from each fight by adapting new things. It is for sure that his growth would be a lot slower if it wasn't for his parents but even then he'd most likely gain everything he has now but at a slower rate (its pretty likely he would of died earlier on in the story if he had a regular monster as a parent due to his growth being too slow or rather, the normal growth if you will).
Not true actually. According to everyone on Ella side, we didn't work for anything. She helped us with everything and our power is what carried us through everything.
 
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