harem.king

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Zack Zaman might not be directly infected by the 5th.
Oh right. As you are told by nico, lots of supers with S class monster parent never amount to anything, while some of the most powerful people come from basic bitch monsters which they vastly surpass. And that you can develop abilities your monster parent never had.

It seems like the generation gives an initial boost rather than fully determining how far you will go.
 

DrakoGhoul

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well, there might be a variable error then.
although, a casual look didn't turn out the exact variable name and I am really not feeling like taking a deeper dive into it
The variable is Fmonster or some variation of it for the 4th. You'll see it a lot from the start to Fairy, Valravn, Aglaecwif encounter and so on. Even this update has some stuff with it like the Dog calling the 4th Mother if you're 4th Spawn.
 
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harem.king

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The variable is Fmonster or some variation of it for the 4th. You'll see it a lot from the start to Fairy, Valravn, Aglaecwif encounter and so on. Even this update has some stuff with it like the Dog calling the 4th Mother if you're 4th Spawn.
thank you.
I checked it and I was wrong. You are right
 
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lorkdubo

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Wait. If Eisheth is the 9th, i could see amber there. I don't know what her power could be. It can't be something like desire.
 

Aristarkhos

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? When the 4th said Ella was "born by blood", she's referring to her being infected by her twin brother, the 3rd. When you become a superhuman, you're reborn under their line and become a true child of that monster. As for failure part, it was in reference to her not gaining the Memory Trait.
My thought for "born by blood" is more literal.
Seeing Ella with Tanos makes me think that he was responsible for her infection, using the 3rd's blood.
 

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My thought for "born by blood" is more literal.
Seeing Ella with Tanos makes me think that he was responsible for her infection, using the 3rd's blood.
Wouldn't it be the same regardless though? Either way she'll be the 3rd's Child. Whether he infected her directly or it was done via the blood infecting her. No matter which process was chosen, Ella would be born by blood.
 
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Wouldn't it be the same regardless though? Either way she'll be the 3rd's Child. Whether he infected her directly or it was done via the blood infecting her. No matter which process was chosen, Ella would be born by blood.
Would it be the same? MC's infection seemed to be very particular, done deliberately and with specific intentions.
Just... infecting her with blood wouldn't be the same. Though even if that's just me reading too much into it, we have no way to know that infection by blood is the same as deliberate infection by direct intervention. Unfortunately, our only similar example is Tiffany, and the indeterminate status of the 8th makes her a poor point of comparison.
 
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My thought for "born by blood" is more literal.
Seeing Ella with Tanos makes me think that he was responsible for her infection, using the 3rd's blood.
I feel like Tanos had something to do with Ella's infection for sure.

Wouldn't it be the same regardless though? Either way she'll be the 3rd's Child. Whether he infected her directly or it was done via the blood infecting her. No matter which process was chosen, Ella would be born by blood.
I also feel like this would be true.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Would it be the same? MC's infection seemed to be very particular, done deliberately and with specific intentions.
Just... infecting her with blood wouldn't be the same. Though even if that's just me reading too much into it, we have no way to know that infection by blood is the same as deliberate infection by direct intervention. Unfortunately, our only similar example is Tiffany, and the indeterminate status of the 8th makes her a poor point of comparison.
I disagree because Tiffany, functionally, is still a superhuman. She's still a part of the 8th line, whether she was accepted or not. That's how the infection works.

Aglaecwif still treated Ella as a chosen. Valravn still sees Ella as a spawn of the Body. Even the scene from last update has us see that the 3rd saw Ella as his heir. Now that we know that what the MC is seeing is memories from their blood in the vial, not it directly referring to him. The 4th, on the other hand, calls her a failure, likely because she failed to unlock the memory trait. Not to mention, Ella was in the same park as the 3rd and 4th when MC got infected. If he really didn't see her as his child, he could've easily just killed her there. Not to mention her Level 5 evolution scene when the 3rd, likely, was talking to her.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Moon Twins were also turned via injection and they're still treated as chosen/heirs.
 

Aristarkhos

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I disagree because Tiffany, functionally, is still a superhuman. She's still a part of the 8th line, whether she was accepted or not. That's how the infection works.

Aglaecwif still treated Ella as a chosen. Valravn still sees Ella as a spawn of the Body. Even the scene from last update has us see that the 3rd saw Ella as his heir. Now that we know that what the MC is seeing is memories from their blood in the vial, not it directly referring to him. The 4th, on the other hand, calls her a failure, likely because she failed to unlock the memory trait. Not to mention, Ella was in the same park as the 3rd and 4th when MC got infected. If he really didn't see her as his child, he could've easily just killed her there. Not to mention her Level 5 evolution scene when the 3rd, likely, was talking to her.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Moon Twins were also turned via injection and they're still treated as chosen/heirs.
You are arguing against too many things that I did not say.
All I said was that it might not be the same, and that "born by blood" might have a different meaning.
Not that it didn't work at all, and not that the 3rd didn't ultimately consider her heir/chosen.

As for the Moon twins, that's just some human cultists calling them that because they're apostle-spawn.
That has little bearing on the 11th and 12th themselves, particularly given their... indeterminate status.
 

DrakoGhoul

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You are arguing against too many things that I did not say.
All I said was that it might not be the same, and that "born by blood" might have a different meaning.
Not that it didn't work at all, and not that the 3rd didn't ultimately consider her heir/chosen.

As for the Moon twins, that's just some human cultists calling them that because they're apostle-spawn.
That has little bearing on the 11th and 12th themselves, particularly given their... indeterminate status.
Not really. I'm just pointing out many things to show you that there's no difference in Ella's status, regardless of if she was infected by blood or directly by the 3rd. The 3rd, nor do the other monsters in high positions, treat her no differently. She's still a chosen and treated as an Heir by the 3rd himself.

This is where I'll leave it. It is your speculation after all and you are the one that replied to me with it. You're more than free to continue your thought on it but I've said my piece.
 
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Hey yall just wanna ask. When MC went to Christie's old school and found the pinkish vial was "mother" talking about Ella or the MC? Since the words "born by blood" could be due to Ella drinking said vial during her evolution but could also be because of our artifical evolution due to deryl's chimera bod but the "eye" said we "earned" the power so... Also the words "suitable to birth" just seem to link more towards the MC than Ella since the "eye" wants the MC to facilitate its birth. Just wondering since I dont want my MC to be "Unworthy, lacking, mistaken" just ruins my power trip fantasy ya know? And yes I know I need to touch grass. Final question did mother say "Failed" or "Falled" since WW used the same character for the letters I and L. And if she did say falled it could be due to my high corruption, just wondering if there are dialogue changes for those who played a no corruption route.
 

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The new update is a reminder that the author is a goat.

2000s infulance check,

A character who is a thiccer version of storm from X-man check, a MC who is a better version of Alex Mercer from Prototype check.

Amazing art check.

Creative sex scenes check, Not all female characters are horny from the get go, characters have uniqe personllities and back stories.

2 awsome factions.

Twins.

A cyberpunk like world, where there is a one world govermant check.

Im suprised that this game isn't first place here.
 

Ddlc

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Yes and it's really cool earning that edgy birb's respect
I have a question, do you need to pass both power and skill check to do that ? Cause i'm pretty sure i only got the skill on my no corruption run but bird boy is really cool with me, i even got the dialogue were he explains more about talking monsters after he is captured by HERO.
 
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And Zack in this update said that S rank monsters present a threat even to captains. Not to mention SENTIENT S rank monsters and SIN have at least equal to Captains number of Sentient S rank Monsters and bunch of usual ones. MC already think that even if HERO win this fight - there are not much from Earth left in aftermath
The sentient ones pose more of a threat. But like Bernhardt is basically immortal and Nico can just, teleport anyone to the surface of the sun. Except Hexenringe and she can still probably kill it

2.MC would die against Male Twin. We basicly cant touch him and escape from this Twin - best of what we can do against him
The MC is stuck in a 3v1 in an ambush situation while protecting 3 people and still just tanking them. And he felt he was close to figuring out how to beat Evander
 
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