serenitynow

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I assumed all those (and most) girls in this game just wear eye make up:BootyTime: did I miss somewhere that it isnt just makeup? Demi has actual weird/"creepy" eyes iirc
It may have been a stylistic choice during the first release of game, but Ella's eyes have an explanation. MC's eyes probably have one as well (when his mother was killed by a monster) but is not revealed yet. All others are unexplained.
 
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Who thinks that MC wouldn't get a chance to handle Moon twins despite having the ability to defeat them both? Devana is literally harmless to him, and Evander can be simply overwhelmed with flesh explosions from electric eel organs. With MC's superior mobility girl is a 1 hit KO, and her brother's destruction/corrosion can be exhausted with gigantic flesh lumps with occasional mind attack if something goes wrong. With how bad they are outmatched, there's no chance WW will give us this scenario.
 
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Who thinks that MC wouldn't get a chance to handle Moon twins despite having the ability to defeat them both? Devana is literally harmless to him, and Evander can be simply overwhelmed with flesh explosions from electric eel organs. With MC's superior mobility girl is a 1 hit KO, and her brother's destruction/corrosion can be exhausted with gigantic flesh lumps with occasional mind attack if something goes wrong. With how bad they are outmatched, there's no chance WW will give us this scenario.
That's exactly what most people said when the update was over. I think WW wanted MC to have a trip down memory lane to get his mom's memories back into place while also upgrading his memory trait. I don't like how it was done, but as long as we get to humble the twins when we break free I'm fine.
 

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That's exactly what most people said when the update was over. I think WW wanted MC to have a trip down memory lane to get his mom's memories back into place while also upgrading his memory trait. I don't like how it was done, but as long as we get to humble the twins when we break free I'm fine.
Nah, H.E.R.O. are outnumbered and outgunned, with Deryl out of commission and S class monster with 4 lvl Shen for support taking care of 2 lvl 5s. Twins are getting the pill. I'm 90% sure.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Can someone tell me what the M:43 type monster was? Thanks.
Unknown at the moment. All we know is it's either an A Class Strength Eater or a monster like a Strength Eater. It has memory powers dealing with emotions, thoughts and other concepts that allow it to shapeshift. It's probably related to the 4th Apostle and MC's past with Syla in some way.

Best to wait until next update since this flashback will likely give the answer. If it's related to his mom's attack.
 

Gtdead

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BUT, that guy is you are replying to is wrong. Not because of your "physics don't matter" thing.
but because nowhere in the story does it say that they are tossing kamehamehas with more than 100 nukes worth of explosion. He is incorrectly assuming that level 5s are converting their magical attacks into kinetic energy or thermal energy attack that hit with a force greater than 100 nukes.
Actually, it kinda does, not everytime, but it's there. This is why people, including me, are interested in calculations and the consistency of WW's narration.
Bernhardt said that he applied "a little pressure". Pressure is a real concept, extreme pressure can create these effects, perhaps not exactly how they are shown, but somewhere in the general ballpark.

So Bernhardt in the Himavat scene is doing something that is measurable. Any kind of energy can be transformed to some other without any problems and Kinetic energy is the easiest to grasp and make comparisons without too much hassle. There really isn't any problem in thinking that Bernhardt is capable of generating energy equivalent to hundreds of nukes.

Of course, there are other factors at play. For example a surface detonation is not the same as a detonation near a structural weakness. Perhaps Bernhardt is capable of attacking the Himavat from within, and requiring less Energy to break it apart than a hundred of surface nuclear explosions. But I would never dismiss an idea/simulation that just assumes Bernhardt attack's energy is equivalent to "hundreds of nuclear explosions", at least not without a good reason which comes from inside the game.

There's also different kinds of phenomena that can be explained by just "pressure". Was it atmospheric pressure (as the weight of atmosphere?), surface pressure (as generally applying force over a certain area), liquid pressure etc ? It's all pressure, but it tells us something about the mechanics. We can assume that it was atmospheric because that's what his powers seem to be about.

And through this analysis, we can wonder what will happen if Bernhardt tries to fight in the vacuum of space? This is a question with a lot of merit. At some point, MC may need to fight Bernhardt, and taking advantage of mechanics like this may be the key to victory. Such a scenario is not far fetched in the least. So despite being magical, which I absolutely agree that they are, we don't have to toss everything out, as long as all the assumptions we make are based on the information that the narrator gives us.
 
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Gtdead

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Who thinks that MC wouldn't get a chance to handle Moon twins despite having the ability to defeat them both? Devana is literally harmless to him, and Evander can be simply overwhelmed with flesh explosions from electric eel organs. With MC's superior mobility girl is a 1 hit KO, and her brother's destruction/corrosion can be exhausted with gigantic flesh lumps with occasional mind attack if something goes wrong. With how bad they are outmatched, there's no chance WW will give us this scenario.
At this point we are treading in a bit of unknown territory. MC had too much trouble versus the Twins. Yes Devana can't really do much to him, but Evander can and a level 2 shouldn't have such an easy time going against a level 3.

I have talked about how this scene leaves me with a very bad aftertaste. A murderous (as stated) MC should have already killed Devana with a stray tail and slapped Evander with half the forest by the end, but instead he was on the defensive till Shen got bored and decided to end it without any hint at resistance on MC's part.

So while I think that the Moon twins are beneath him, they will end up being the next roadblock, especially if they evolve. After all, there exist indications that they tend to grow much faster than other Superhumans. Of course MC also has an exceptional growth so we can't yet tell how they compare,

On the other hand, it doesn't feel like the Moon twins are supposed to be Antagonists, at least not by default.

These are my most anticipated scenarios:

1) A huge MC + Foxglove Twins vs Shen + Moon Twins fight.

I really like the Foxglove sisters and I want them to take a more active role. One of the problems however is that time doesn't wait for anyone and a brand new level 1 can't really compete without some form of timelapse. The idea that Twins somehow grow faster than usual however, could be the key to let them be relevant.

Such a fight that ends up in MC's favor will be huge. It will show that MC is superior as both a Superhuman and as a trainer, and set the Foxglove twins as useful allies rather than some newbies who still need to find their footing.


2) Foxglove Twins getting merged into a Superbeing, permanent or not.

The Fusion scenario was one of the first wild theories since we got confirmation that this is the "Twins Arc". It's also a cool way to avoid the time problem. It will be a new and exciting variable, with the potential to be formidable without going through the usual steps.

The Foxgove twins are shown as being the exact opposite. One is haphazard and extremely talented, the other is extremely dilligent but an underachiever in comparison. One is cold the other is hot etc.

And I think that this is why the fusion theory is so exciting. Because they have the potential to complete each other.

3) Solo MC vs multiple Ella kids.

This will require some setup, but MC should have started getting frustrated at this point. While his personal growth is well on it's tracks, he has very limited control over what is happening around him.

So at this point I think that a "Jean-Claude Van'Damme getting angry and owning shit" moment will work wonders to set the tone for the things to come. MC is supposed to become the best but his victories are always by the skin of his teeth and he didn't really have a chance to showcase "dominance" up to this point.
 
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At this point we are treading in a bit of unknown territory. MC had too much trouble versus the Twins. Yes Devana can't really do much to him, but Evander can and a level 2 shouldn't have such an easy time going against a level 3.

I have talked about how this scene leaves me with a very bad aftertaste. A murderous (as stated) MC should have already killed Devana with a stray tail and slapped Evander with half the forest by the end, but instead he was on the defensive till Shen got bored and decided to end it without any hint at resistance on MC's part.

So while I think that the Moon twins are beneath him, they will end up being the next roadblock, especially if they evolve. After all, there exist indications that they tend to grow much faster than other Superhumans. Of course MC also has an exceptional growth so we can't yet tell how they compare,

On the other hand, it doesn't feel like the Moon twins are supposed to be Antagonists, at least not by default.

These are my most anticipated scenarios:

1) A huge MC + Foxglove Twins vs Shen + Moon Twins fight.

I really like the Foxglove sisters and I want them to take a more active role. One of the problems however is that time doesn't wait for anyone and a brand new level 1 can't really compete without some form of timelapse. The idea that Twins somehow grow faster than usual however, could be the key to let them be relevant.

Such a fight that ends up in MC's favor will be huge. It will show that MC is superior as both a Superhuman and as a trainer, and set the Foxglove twins as useful allies rather than some newbies who still need to find their footing.


2) Foxglove Twins getting merged into a Superbeing, permanent or not.

The Fusion scenario was one of the first wild theories since we got confirmation that this is the "Twins Arc". It's also a cool way to avoid the time problem. It will be a new and exciting variable, with the potential to be formidable without going through the usual steps.

The Foxgove twins are shown are being the exact opposite. One is haphazard and extremely talented, the other is extremely dilligent but an underachiever in comparison. One is cold the other is hot etc.

And I think that this is why the fusion theory is so exciting. Because they have the potential to complete each other.

3) Solo MC vs multiple Ella kids.

This will require some setup, but MC should have started getting frustrated at this point. While his personal growth is well on it's tracks, he has very limited control over what is happening around him.

So at this point I think that a "Jean-Claude Van'Damme getting angry and owning shit" moment will work wonders to set the tone for the things to come. MC is supposed to become the best but his victories are always by the skin of his teeth and he didn't really have a chance to showcase "dominance" up to this point.
I guess that the MC didn't fight more agressively because the moon brother's power was too dangerous for him like eletricity, as the sister was pretty much a pushover and was just mostly just providing support, though she can tank a lot of hits because of her creation ability so I doubt even if the MC focused on her he could finish her off before the brother or Shen intervened. If he was alone I doubt the MC would have any trouble fleeing the scene, but he had to protect the girls and Deryl so his best bet would be to stall for time and hope the other HERO guys finished their job of capturing the pink monster and came to help (or the HQ sent Nico to help, who knows if Zack or Deus are watching).
 

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I guess that the MC didn't fight more agressively because the moon brother's power was too dangerous for him like eletricity, as the sister was pretty much a pushover and was just mostly just providing support, though she can tank a lot of hits because of her creation ability so I doubt even if the MC focused on her he could finish her off before the brother or Shen intervened. If he was alone I doubt the MC would have any trouble fleeing the scene, but he had to protect the girls and Deryl so his best bet would be to stall for time and hope the other HERO guys finished their job of capturing the pink monster and came to help (or the HQ sent Nico to help, who knows if Zack or Deus are watching).
For the Devana bit, I'll put it this way.
MC has this technique where he makes the enemy focus on him and then backstabs them with his tail. He did it against Danica, Klaus, Valravn, Wepwawet, Hydra Deryl, Michael.

Additionally MC has the ability to burrow and his tails are sentient. If MC really wants to kill Devana, all he has to do is command a burrowing tentacle to pierce her from below. Level 2 reflexes aren't anything special. Perhaps someone like Shen could evade an attack like this, but a level 2 without any significant "passive" defense? Doubtful. It feels a bit cheap to see MC suddenly "forget" about his core techniques.

Don't get me wrong, as a reader I don't even want MC to kill Devana. But I care about consistency and I dislike that in that particular scene MC ouright thinks about killing her but doesn't follow through.

Now for the fleeing bit, I agree. While MC is very fast, at least Mach 9, which should be too fast for lower level Superhumans without any mobility related ability, having to carry Deryl and twins would pose a significant challenge. Devana in particular could cause huge problems with her strapped bombs and other possible obstacles.
 
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Actually, it kinda does, not everytime, but it's there.
1. There is not a single case happening in the story thus far. (although there is one hypothetical case mentioned. that of the level 5 fire guy burning away all of earth)

2. I literally addressed the hypothetical possibility at that some point some super will do so a few lines below what you quoted me saying
Also, destroying the planet is entirely on the table.
But is prevented by the higher ups which include time travellers, precogs, and masters of space (which include pocket dimensions, banishment, etc).
One of the top aces is a teleporter girl, who is fighting the mutated ring thing.

During their fight you are bleeding out between different alt dimensions and eventually a pocket world is destroyed.
And she can teleport you into deep space if you become too much trouble.
If a fight looks like it will crack the earth then they will teleport that monster to a black hole instead.
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There's also different kinds of phenomena that can be explained by just "pressure". Was it atmospheric pressure (as the weight of atmosphere?), surface pressure (as generally applying force over a certain area), liquid pressure etc ? It's all pressure, but it tells us something about the mechanics. We can assume that it was atmospheric because that's what his powers seem to be about.
You are forgetting magical pressure, soul pressure, aura pressure.
 
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