You have failed to produce a single example of someone converting their magic into purely non magical energy.
A. You are assuming that when he said "a little pressure" he was euhpemistically lying and meant a metric fuckton of pressure. Specifically you assume he meant "I completely removed all magic from it, converting it solely into a non magical physical force with more energy than 100 nukes going off together". Yet even though he was not speaking clearly, he must have meant the most literal definition of the word pressure. which you falsely insist can only mean one thing (more on that below)
And intentionally ignoring how bernhardt can physically transform his body into wind and then teleport across the world at near light speed. Somehow non magical wind clearly can not do. You attrbiute this to a failure of the author to understand the physics that govern wind. The author knows damn well that ordinary wind cannot think like a person and cannot move at near light speed.
Are you sure you are responding to what I write? For someone who claims that I misrepresent his point and paint him something, you seem to have some comprehension issue or have confused me with someone else.
I'm taking the literal definition because it fits and makes sense. There's this thing called Occam's Razor. So unless you can prove that it's otherwise using the game's text, I see absolutely no reason why the "air guy" would apply "soul pressure".
B. You cannot even articulate exactly what nico and alice's powers do. Yet insist it somehow must be converting magic into purely non magical energies or matter.
C. You are ignoring the part where I explicitly stated that Berhard, Nico, and Malik are explicitly potential planet busters. Nico literally destroyed a demiplane.
The fact that you need better articulation than what I've written on Nico and Alice just shows your bias. You think it's some kind of "aha" moment but it's not. My argument is that magical powers can create mundane effects. I don't need to explain how Nico may expend power to fold dimensions, or how Alice switches between repulsive and attractive forces.
And I'm not ignoring anything about planet busters. I was the first who tried to explain that planet busting is normal for level 5 Superhumans in this discussion, and there is no need for "magic" to destroy a planet, so that's not an argument which helps your case.
Suffice to say, some of these effects are conceptually magical. Alice's contained gravity, Bernhardt transforming into air etc cannot be explained somehow even if some of the effects are measurable. The explosions can be explained though, no matter if they are galaxy busters or a light breeze. I never contented that point, but it seems I have to include even the things that I haven't said to cover all the bases.
D. The MC mass is absolutely 100% still magical. Which is why it starts evaporating when seperated from his body.
This doesn't answer anything I've talked about. Even if magic is the method by which MC affects mass, the materials he creates are common. Once he reached level 3 he could create monster materials too, but his bones are diamond, not magic diamond.
No, this is not at all equivalent. Level 5 powers are explicitly varied, exotic, and enter the realms of the conceptual.
Your insistence that someone who started with the power of fire at level 1, can literally do nothing BUT completely ordinary non magical fire at level 5 is absurd
So you say, I'm still waiting for your proof that any effect, unless explicitly stated or can't be mapped to a real life concept, is inherently magical. No matter if you think that it's absurd, the game does not support this notion.
Assume that a superhuman has the ability to travel FTL. That's magical. However as long as he travels up to the speed limit, the effect is not magical.
I will just reiterate my point. Just because magic exists, we don't have to toss everything else out of the window. Both can coexist in fictional works.
Also, the term pressure has many varied meanings. Fire not so much.
If someone said "I applied a little fire to the enemy" it has very specific meaning.
If someone said "I applied a little pressure to the enemy" the meaning is not as clear due to the many ways to interpret that word.
He could have said "I applied a little wind to the enemy". wind has a very specific and clear meaning, unlike pressure.
I mean, we can have a discussion about philology, no problem, but you do understand that 2 out of your 3 examples are actually wrong do you? How one goes about applying fire and wind? You apply heat, force, pressure, the things that by definition have an effect. Fire and Wind do not have an effect, they are just things. No one ever said that "we apply fire to cook the steak". We say "we apply heat to cook the stake". Are you going to argue that heat in this context can ever be "soul heat"?
When air and pressure are used in close proximity, thinking anything else than force/surface is overreaching.
I never said it is "a blob of magic that vaguely looks like fire".
It is [magical fire]. Comprised of both magic AND fire. The two are intertwined.
You are the one who is arguing for purely 100% non magical effects.
Don't put words in my mouth painting me as your polar opposite. I am not.
I am arguing for a hybrid effect.
It is magical fire. Not pure magic, not pure physics.
It is magical muscles on MC. Not pure biology, not pure magic.
If MC was creating purely biological constructs. Then why does his arm evaporate when detached from his body? It was explicitly mentioned to be related to the magical energy in his flesh.
I'm arguing that magic is capable of creating both magical effects and non magical effects, and the particular non magical effects are exactly the same as any mundane effect we can find in the real world. For example Malik's "Ceaselessly Burning Flame" is a hybrid, because no flame lasts forever without fuel, but Malik's magic can sustain it indefinitely. The flame however is exactly the same as the one you may find on a candle or through some other mundane mechanism.
And since you talked about MC's mass vanishing, Ella Doll explains this in detail. The mass created has to be sustained by the monster power. Once it loses the connection, the energy "disperses". Now guess what, there's an actual mechanism here. The energy does not vanish, isn't lost, instead it "disperses".
Reminds you of some concept? Like let's say, conservation? The narrator goes to extreme lengths (relative to the genre and the purpose of the VN) to keep things grounded on a scientific base. It happens everywhere throughout the game. It's not just magic. It's magic grounded in reality. It's like monster power is a form of energy, which can have multiple states and (at least partially) play by the rules that other types of energies do.
