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Sheer fucking will
and also time
edit: i’ve actually no idea he’s just built different
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and also time
edit: i’ve actually no idea he’s just built different
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He is HIM. That's enough, none of that apostles spawns are stronger bla bla bla.
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Playing the game from the start with the info we have now is an interesting experience. Some dialogues make a lot more sense, but it's one particular bit that made me chuckle a bit.
I was always a supporter of the idea that MC is smart. Now that we know Syla messed with him this sounds more plausible than ever. So when I saw that bit I was surprised:
It's from when MC dives into the Dean's memories, reliving the memory of Steven blackmailing him for the scholarship:
I remember the first time I saw that, I found it such an odd thing to say. Steven is a quirky character and he is prone to nonsensical behaviors. Now however, that we know Steven is neck deep into monsters, this starts looking like a completely different thing. Steven probably means the third evolution, or at least that he hopes 3 years will be enough to allow MC to evolve enough to overcome whatever damage was done to him.
I'm going to pay much more attention to the things he says from now on.
I was always a supporter of the idea that MC is smart. Now that we know Syla messed with him this sounds more plausible than ever. So when I saw that bit I was surprised:
It's from when MC dives into the Dean's memories, reliving the memory of Steven blackmailing him for the scholarship:
I remember the first time I saw that, I found it such an odd thing to say. Steven is a quirky character and he is prone to nonsensical behaviors. Now however, that we know Steven is neck deep into monsters, this starts looking like a completely different thing. Steven probably means the third evolution, or at least that he hopes 3 years will be enough to allow MC to evolve enough to overcome whatever damage was done to him.
I'm going to pay much more attention to the things he says from now on.
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I had totally forgotten that they were the 3 to have reached level 5 naturally (shame on me ^^), it could be linked to their level 5 but Bernarhdt was already stronger than Kira and Elija at level 5 before reaching it himself, it shouldnt be the case if their fifth evolution was the factor of their greather power.
Sya insist that she's human but also that " there's maybe a couple of things more" . She was the 4th chosen before losing in purity and replaced by Aglaecwif.
could that be connected to them be of a different breed?,
she's definitly a weird one too with how she act, maybe that she was also a natural level 5?, she's more powerfull than mc because she lock his memory but can also easily block Shen power who is level 4 . But as far a we know chosen are monster, so why Sya would say that she's human if she's a monster?
but she seem somehow connected to that monster in a cave during a mission with Nico...
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I’ve always suspected MC was part monster before even being infected so I think maybe Syla locked away this part of MC. Him missing this monster part of himself could be the cause of his lost motivation like part of his soul was locked away.
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It kinda also explains his deficient physique.
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I thought that this particular monster reflected the thoughts/desires of the person in front of them. Perhaps the monster was able to recreate MCs mom from his thoughts. This could link to another theory i’ve seen floating around. That syla is held within MCs memories like bailey. Maybe this monster could recreate syla because she is LITERALLY in his head.
We’ve seen that syla watches him and knows what he’s up to (it’s also implied that she jills off to his “encounters”) What better way to know what he’s up to than seeing it through his own eyes?
Anyway yeah I think syla is in his head/memories.
edit: My initial thought was wrong the monster didn’t recreate syla from memories but i still think she’s in his head lol.
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I dunno but i think its safe to assume that Sylla isnt human, at least shes superhuman but probably closer to the monsters, to me it kinda sounded like the fourth gave birth to her (in a literal way?) and because she mated with a human (mc's dad) the mc isnt entirely pure.
The hidden choosen you mentioned immediatly remembered me of Deus, he has the same posture, i wouldnt be too surprised if deus is connected to this chosen or maybe even is the choosen himself. Esp as it seems that he is not connected to the time choosen even tho his powers seemed like it.
About the Michael/Alice vs. Met/Rina fight, i dont see Alice and Michael losing at all despite the level-difference, its not unreasonable to assume that one of Michael and Alice will evolve in this fight and both are stated to be special compared to other superhumans on their level.
And i just cant see Michael losing against his younger brother and even less when Met behaves so cocky about it, he just wont allow himself to lose and will rather force a mutation by sheer determination and im convinced he would rather die than fleeing a fight like that against his brother, this is what he lives for after all.
And Michael kinda has counter abilitys against Met. Similar with Alice, shes way too perceptive and agile which imo counters Rina, she only has to clap her hands and rina is exposed but we will see.
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It really doesn't make sense for him to be so short considering his parents' height, Syla is almost his current height and his father is tall enough for him to borrow his clothes.
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i dont see them loosing either, more the fight interupted .
that's not the only similarity with this monster
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Tentacles like mc, lightning and thunder, mc is very weak and Sya is afraid of them, and mc talk about familiarity when he try to read memories of that monster
And Nico confirm that she didnt shapeshift, it's the monster true appearance
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I really love seeing you guys talk about theories and stuff; too bad my english is too bad for me to participate. I hope to learn how to write properly by the middle of this year, at least shuahsu.
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Trust me, the more you write the more you'll learn.
Also it's not like in this thread or any other there are professors of grammar so you'll be good anyway and at the worst you'll be instructed
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Sya insists she is human and gets very upset when questioned about it but she also admits she is "a little more too", so as always i have veeeeeery bizarre theories:
1. Sya constantly refers to Memory as "Mom", the obvious interpretation being, "Syla is a monster and is literally her daughter" this could be the case considering she had a child and monsters can breed with humans, she says she was pure once but not anymore, maybe she only had memory traits but somehow gained some body to shapeshift into a normal looking human and live with her husband, dissapointing Memory who at the time wanted her pure as her monster choosen.
2. Sya is a superhuman and manifested memory so well to the point of being considered an heir, but somehow developed a little of body powers to try to alter herself in a way that allowed her to concieve a child with her husband, if we consider superhuman/human genetic incompatibility shapeshifing could be a solution, but from losing her focus only in her memory trait she dissapointed her monster "mom", wich lead Memory to try to find a 50/50 this time and see how that works.
From what we gather all other apostles only care about pure spawn, so maybe Memory and Body being ok with a 50/50 is a new development.
It's also relevant to remember that according to Sya, Memory DOESN'T know about Mc relation to Syla, that's why she wants him to grow as much as he can in his memory trait before Memory becomes aware of that, wich MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
Now you guys are into something with Mc's appearance, there is no way he would end up that short when born from people that tall, also memories as we learned are not just in peoples minds but also in their genes, maybe if he has monster heritage blocking that part of him not just erased his memories but also his genetic potencial, until being unlocked by his monster infection, she even says at the mirror scene that Mc's powers only "awoke what was already there".
1. Sya constantly refers to Memory as "Mom", the obvious interpretation being, "Syla is a monster and is literally her daughter" this could be the case considering she had a child and monsters can breed with humans, she says she was pure once but not anymore, maybe she only had memory traits but somehow gained some body to shapeshift into a normal looking human and live with her husband, dissapointing Memory who at the time wanted her pure as her monster choosen.
2. Sya is a superhuman and manifested memory so well to the point of being considered an heir, but somehow developed a little of body powers to try to alter herself in a way that allowed her to concieve a child with her husband, if we consider superhuman/human genetic incompatibility shapeshifing could be a solution, but from losing her focus only in her memory trait she dissapointed her monster "mom", wich lead Memory to try to find a 50/50 this time and see how that works.
From what we gather all other apostles only care about pure spawn, so maybe Memory and Body being ok with a 50/50 is a new development.
It's also relevant to remember that according to Sya, Memory DOESN'T know about Mc relation to Syla, that's why she wants him to grow as much as he can in his memory trait before Memory becomes aware of that, wich MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
Now you guys are into something with Mc's appearance, there is no way he would end up that short when born from people that tall, also memories as we learned are not just in peoples minds but also in their genes, maybe if he has monster heritage blocking that part of him not just erased his memories but also his genetic potencial, until being unlocked by his monster infection, she even says at the mirror scene that Mc's powers only "awoke what was already there".
The Fourth being displeased with a pure heir following Syla's attempt to have children with MC's dad would pair nicely with the Third being displeased with Ella after her third evolution. Maybe the two of them got to discussing the failures of their "pure" chosen and decided to attempt a pure hybrid. But that might be humanizing the Apostles a bit too much. We don't really know much about their relationship to each other beyond the fact they are twins.
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