bebroeater
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I know, I was asking DevilsDetails. I just found it weird that Danica is on the list and Jake is not, both of them being characters that you can either spare or kill depending on your choices in the story.
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Since we are making lists I would like to make one of the monsters considering the theory that the numbered ones are the original monsters and all the others are their descendants, who do you think the other monsters seen so far are descendants of?
Demi's is obviously related to the first one, they are similar in both their powers and their appearance.
I think Kenny's monster is related to the third because of its ability to change and regenerate its body, plus we can make it obey us if we have enough corruption
Maybe Danica's is related to the second one? Although I only say it because they look alike to me.
Alexis is related to the third by her ability to manipulate materials although she is limited to metals.
Clark obviously with the second.
The gym girl (I forgot her name) monster would be related to the third one.
The girl who questions us is also obviously the fourth.
No idea about the rest.
Considering the powers shown so far, if I had to guess the powers of the numbered ones that we are missing, it would be something like:
5- The ability to control the elements
6- The ability to control space and time
Demi's is obviously related to the first one, they are similar in both their powers and their appearance.
I think Kenny's monster is related to the third because of its ability to change and regenerate its body, plus we can make it obey us if we have enough corruption
Maybe Danica's is related to the second one? Although I only say it because they look alike to me.
Alexis is related to the third by her ability to manipulate materials although she is limited to metals.
Clark obviously with the second.
The gym girl (I forgot her name) monster would be related to the third one.
The girl who questions us is also obviously the fourth.
No idea about the rest.
Considering the powers shown so far, if I had to guess the powers of the numbered ones that we are missing, it would be something like:
5- The ability to control the elements
6- The ability to control space and time
DrakoGhoul
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That could just be her throwing objects via teleporting them towards Valravn. It doesn't necessarily have to be apart of her powers. I'm sure Hero supplied her with plenty of weaponry that she can then summon to use towards enemies, if/when needed.
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If all she could do was blink in and out, without means to attack, she'd be fairly useless to HERO aside from... basically being a taxi. So yeah it's pretty much a given she got some combat training to go with her power.
bebroeater
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She teleported the MC to space and into lava. And there's nothing stopping her from doing it to somebody else as far as we know. We still don't know for sure how her powers work but they seem ridiculous. I am curious what she would do against the wind dude.
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Don't forget we're also missing info about the 7th through 12th Numbered as well. Even though they might be dead or in a state similar to it. It would be kind of hard to tell until we at least learn what parts they are.
So far we have
The 1st Numbered: "Firstborn" "The Authority"
The 2nd Numbered: "???" "The Power" or maybe "The Radiance"?
The 3rd Numbered: "The Body"
The 4th Numbered: "The Memory"
Valravn's Monster: The Lord/King/God, Original Monster? Comes from the Dark Moon?
Valravn's Monster's Bride: the Minyaks parent monster from the Black Sea?
Some of them can fit under the current known Numbered like Sharon. Her powers are similar to the 4th and her parent could be related to ours. Demi's Monster could definitely be related to the 1st and that's something I've mentioned in the past. Klaus's could be from the 2nd Numbered line but I believe the Fairy might be from one of the other Numbered that can manipulate Space and not really the 2nd. I can think of a few more but I'll leave it at that for now.
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But since HERO is first and foremost a research agency, destroying valuable material is a no-go. So throwing shit in space or lava is only good for non-canon endings, not for how she actually deals with threats.
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I wouldn't say that. She's still a lvl 5 so her stats would still be high, even without training. She definitely received some though.
This update revealed some limitations for her powers but even those don't really seem all that bad. The best way to stop Nico is to trap her in a space she can't teleport from or with a mental attack that gives her temporary amnesia so that she can't teleport.
I did mention speed being a possible way around her power in the past. Bernhard might fit the bill here now. It does seem like anyone with that speed could reach her but it'd have to be unbelievably fast and she can't be allowed any time to process a thought. If it's not, then she'll instantly teleport away or transport them away. She's also fast herself so you'll have to outpace her as well for it to work.
I don't mind her being this broken though. It makes them actually feel like a strong force. With more of their superhumans being revealed, I feel we're going to come across even more special abilities.
tbh I just forgot that we could leave him alive. He never lives in my playthroughs. I'll edit the list
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Keep in mind tho, they are only related as far as we know. I mean, we can say that about every monster and superhuman in existence to an extent. Pointless question imo. The real question is whether or not any of them have DIRECT ties of being given their powers directly from the Numbered; dead or otherwise.
My gander is Bernard and Zack definitely have some of the dead Numbered abilities. And maybe that Captain that was mentioned to be able to raise the dead.
Most of the Numbered from what we know either have OP powers, or downright all logic defying unorthodox powers.
What are our ganders on that based on the abilities shown so far, top H.E.R.O members or otherwise...
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I'm sorry but that wind dude is actually broken. That's even considering our endgame status, if level 5s really pretty defy all logic, and Bernhard has been doing this as long as he has; that man is a Dark Souls Boss.
He could quite literally probably just take the air out of Nicolette's lungs, and that's if she could even touch him with his wind barrier, as a matter of fact; even if she could, he seems to be able to just literally turn into the wind, makes it like the issue she had with the crow.
Being with H.E.R.O for so long and as one of it's prime members I have to say he probably doesn't just have Wind, what if he was artificially given MORE small passive powers like Valravn or the cells? The dude could just be a walking whatever at this point.
Something tells me being hurdled into space or placed in lava would do LITERALLY nothing to him. As Xanthe stated by lvl 4 you prettyy much don't even need to breathe or eat or even sleep by that point, what's space going to do to someone that can fly? And before people say there is no wind in space there are in fact solar winds he could perhaps manipulate,and even if not, what's not to say like the MC, he can't conserve energy for later use.
Nicolette seems op and while she is to an extent, she seems to be more utility rather than combat focused. I feel like most lvl 5s could mop the floor with her given the right corcu to counter a space teleport.
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You do realize you just defeated your own point when you mentioned Bernhard being able to take Nico's breath away while also leaning into saying Lvl 4s don't need to breathe right?
Not to mention, All she has to do is toss him far enough into space. Even if he manages to survive, he'll have no way to reliably get back to earth. Solar winds, even if I entertained the idea, are irrelevant once he's dumped outside of the solar system. Something which she can achieve with a double jump or 3, that are instant by the way.
Also, just because Valravn gave her trouble with his miasma doesn't mean her ability doesn't work on intangible stuff. It was specifically stated that Valravn's ability passively blocks non physical based abilities. It's something special.
To end it all. I never said Nico was the most broken character in the game, in that post. She's A broken character. One of many in this game. Bernhard being another one has no bearing on what I stated in that response. It was about Nico and stuff that can stop her teleporting. He was only mentioned as an example of the speed that could potentially reach her. That is all.
We aren't in late game yet, but everything in the game points to harem, so I doubt it. Almost everyone you get with wants to keep it casual for a start, there's a bunch of threesomes and even a foursome already. And the girls that aren't in any threesomes so far are either aware that you're also with other girls, hinted that they don't mind sharing or had no real romance yet.
RonaldGrand6969
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Sorry Drako I wasn't trying to respond to you, it was more towards what brebro was saying. And you're right, the lung thing makes no sense now that I think about it lol.
I didn't say anything about her being the most op either, I just said that she was op, to an extent, but as far as combat goes against another Lvl 5 given certain circumstances, she's probably not on the high board of that spectrum. Wasn't trying be rude so calm down, it was my mistake, you're good bro.
We don't know the full scope of ANY of the lvl 5s, but we do know that without even trying they are ridiculously overpowered. The question becomes who's more capable, because 5 becomes more of a loose title rather than an accurate measurement. There could be something equal to what we would consider lvl 6 within the ranks someone like Nicolette or Bernhard, comparing that to someone like Clark, a basic lvl 5.
More to my point:
At the end of the day, I just don't see some Superhumans holding up in fights, yes they will be significantly stronger than any level below them at 5, but the powers themselves don't magically change into planet busting abilities. Take Del for example, widely considered a utility member, but I could totally see him becoming ridiculously powerful at lvl 5, just not to the extent of a more combat oriented character.
Which begs the question, how does Deus fair? He can see the future yes, and is widely a most useful utility member, but what does that do for combat? You need some pazaz if you're going to damage someone else of your caliber, you can't rely on just your durable body alone. Which is why I think Bernhard is so ridiculous, we don't know if he can use abilities while in his wind state, but I'd say it's safe to say he could, he literally wasn't even trying to beat that Goliath and he did it in less than a heartbeat's worth of effort. Imagine him actually trying to kill Nicolette. What's she gonna do? Teleport more? Can she grab wind? We know her teleporting has limits, she jumps enough eventually she'll just get both her target and herself killed so how does she actually WIN?
Those are just my thoughts, no aggression towards you Drako, you know I love you.
Edit: To add in Nicolette's defense; if someone like that one mentioned captain that could raise the dead was launched into space sure, that would probably be a W or even Deus.
Point's defense; But for other lvl 5s that actually have useful fisticuff DBZ powers, is space really going to stop them? We know space stopped us due to the temperature, lack of oxygen, etc. But becoming level 5 or even 4 defies those points, sooo unless throwing something that can level a nation can just be thrown into space and their ability CAN'T output enough force to just ricochet them off of nothing like Omniman or any other flying superhero, then I'm seeing a fatal flaw in Nico's OPness. To an extent.
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RonaldGrand6969
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The only actual romance option is Alice and even she's down to share so yeah, I'd gander a harem too. Unless Weird World removes that option to spite us.
Yeah, she's the only one so far where she and the mc call each other boyfriend/girlfriend. But I think it's fair to say that someone like Amber for example will also want some romance in the future.
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Don't know if someone else already report it but i've find a little inconsistency : if you do all Demi's events as soon as you can you'l end up having an event talking about videos showing your fights against monsters, including the Minyak one though this one hasn't happened yet.
oh and btw while i'm here, it seem to have a 3rd bathroom scene but how do you unlock it ?
oh and btw while i'm here, it seem to have a 3rd bathroom scene but how do you unlock it ?
RonaldGrand6969
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That's cool never noticed that, mainly because of the cheerleader route.
To answer your question, I can't remember what triggers it other than it being a Demi scenes and that it happens somewhere AFTER the event where she/he says you should hang out more sitting on your lap. The scene is found by heading to the bathroom.
If you want my advice, just wait until the end sequence where you can play ALL events. You'll eventually get it that way, or you can trial and error it, but nothing (other than death) can prevent you from getting the scene so long as you keep checking for it to pop up in the bathroom. I hope that all made sense, I need to sleep.