KingAgamemnon

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Surprisingly, Nyx is the strongest of all the female superhumans shown thus far and is perhaps the one who brags the least about her capabilities. Kira is another with enough training destined to be great. Lisa's probably gonna surpass Nico as well. She seems determined and Nico seems to be maxxing out.

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Alice(BAE,my darling, I love this girl. Hopefully she doesn't die)>Nyx>Ella>Lisa>Kira(as a Collosus spawn, she's probably gonna progress to the point where Nico can't harm her)>Nico(future utility team member. Been smashing for sure tho!)>Klaus Aunt(just kidding:p please ignore)>Laurie(sorry, couldn't help it)>Demi(okay, I'm done promise...)>Angelina(LMAO)>Devana(dirt, I'd smash tho.)
How could you forget Tiffany and Claudia? Both seem to potentially be very strong. Tiffany has the potential to have all of the benefits of Nico's powers with added beam powers, and Claudia has incredible potential as a spawn of Time.
 

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Do you have a quote from WW?
Because I'm pretty sure all the serum does is force an evolution, which is important because when an evolution happens is generally just luck.
He said it in one of his streams but I forgot which one. Also it's one of the trivia rewards so it should be true.

The serum is neither better nor worse, although if you haven't completed all the prerequisites to reach level 5 and still use the serum, you won't be as strong as if you had completed all the prerequisites.
I think those prerequisites are the trials MC and Michael have been going through recently, and they appear to have their own unique benefits. Michael, for example, being able to absorb the evolution trance mindset so he can have it constantly instead of only shortly after evolving.
That's why the natty level 5s are unbelievably stronger than artificial level 5s.
When Berny said the serum was flawed Henri refuted it and said that they were just different kind and Berny was already way stronger than the artificial lvl 5 even before reaching lvl5, so that's not the reason.


WW later said that those who have the ability to reach level 5 naturally are better than those who can't. So yes if any of the big 3 got the serum they would get more out of their evo, but them being able to do it without means that they were more gifted than those who would've been stuck at level 4 without Xanthe
Yeah they are stronger so they can reach lvl 5 naturally, not that they reach lvl 5 naturally so they are stronger. Completely different concepts.
 
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Tbh she has been a superhuman for a month I will give whr some leeway she had a shit background and suddenly she is powerful now and that too level 3 it was likely going to make her head big lol.
I would if this was the College Arc, but that was the Twins Arc. She knows about HERO and SIN and all of the powers within them somewhat, and how powerful they are. Hell, even knowledge of just Tanos, Eis', and Shen's abilities should cause her to take her training more seriously. Our televised fight with Valrav'n should've put the fear of God in her.
 
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How could you forget Tiffany and Claudia? Both seem to potentially be very strong. Tiffany has the potential to have all of the benefits of Nico's powers with added beam powers, and Claudia has incredible potential as a spawn of Time.
Shush... bro let me edit real quick. It will be our secret. No one has to know.
 

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I knew I was done with Big Ella who I was still smashing regularly when she told me in the hospital with brain raped Mia, "If you're expecting me to feel guilty about what I've done, well I'm sorry, but you are going to be disappointed. I'm just not that kinda girl. I've done things far worse than this."
That was when I was done with her as well. Sure, I get she isn't the one who caused the harm to Mia nor had she ordered Jake to hurt her, but not fixing the girl up despite being perfectly able to is fucked up. Her revealing nothing about what the hell she's doing this for and just saying "this will all be worth it in the end" doesn't help me sympathize either. Popped into my head as I was typing this and isn't related, but I also despise Christie. She's entirely aware that Ella has murdered hundreds of people (at least) and little Ella tells her she's gonna keep doing bad shit, but Christie basically just says "I don't care, you saved me from some scumbag cops and didn't kill me along with everyone else at our school party, that makes what you're doing A-ok"!
 
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Are we told what Lisa's powers are? I remember it being said she's very strong but can't recall if her power was ever revealed.
No, just that it's something she can use from such a long range that she can participate on hunts without ever leaving the base. Maybe that's why she has trouble beating Nico despite being stronger than her, she's used to staying in one place while she fights and that's not a good move against a teleporter. You've got to keep in constant motion to avoid Nico's portal traps, like Ella did.
 

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Nico has one of those powers that's seemingly reliant on her outside environment to cause damage instead of inner power like most superhumans. Lisa Corven mentioned that Nico is actually weak as far as monster power goes if my memory serves right. Nico's one of those superpowered individuals that starts off being able to do more damage than her similarly skilled and powered peers who will eventually get eclipsed by those with a destructive enough power such as Malik, or Gunvald. Over time against ever-improving adversaries, Nico's power is destined to become less and less of a threat and more of a utility power like Clark. Level Fours and Five can have powers that defy the laws of nature, physics, and perhaps the planes and metaphysics.

At a certain point, she will run out of places to teleport people or summon to people that can damage her target enough to kill them. She already showed immense difficulty fighting Ella and Ella's power isn't even made for DPSing(Damage Per Second). Against someone like Gunvald, or Malik, she would likely die trying to kill them or have to quit and run. So Nico as a DPSer in the future is over.


Power and skill adjusted to being equal with Nico's, Indra would pwn her. Glae would pwn her. Valravn would pwn her. Syla would've pwned her. Light's chosen would've pwned her. Destruction's chosen might even be able to absorb whatever she threw at them. Time's chosen would probably stalemate. Space's chosen could probably cut off her portals or teleport her there instead. Ella might've won in a 1v1 with her. Creation would have a problem with her, I think. Authority would.......bro. :cry:Authority would pwn nearly everyone so I'm not even gonna say because it just isn't fair. But afterwards, Authority.....would dominate and enslave her, make her his personal chauffeur and courier like the Aos' people do to Hexenringes. A correctly trained and focused Danica has far more potential than Nico for DPSing. A perfected Danica actually has the most DPS for a single target in a short period of time period shown so far. Elijah has probably the best DPS for a single attack action so far.
yeah i just hope we see nico able to teleport way better like through dimensions easier. she did at sin base but i think that required a lot of power? so basically her power actually refined to where she's a good dps and taxi driver
 
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hsuaisbsjsh

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Certainly 5 or an Eye or other entity assisted level four. It's currently well out of his power and skill abilities. I doubt MC could even fix Mia or Laurie currently and those cases didn't involve a level 5ish(I mean he seemed to have more power than Ella and she was a neophyte level 5) victim body and a level 5 body distortion from a known superior shapeshifter.
wait didn't he fix mia?
 
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How could you forget Tiffany and Claudia? Both seem to potentially be very strong. Tiffany has the potential to have all of the benefits of Nico's powers with added beam powers, and Claudia has incredible potential as a spawn of Time.
Forecasted Future Female Superhuman Power Tier List

Alice(BAE,my darling, I love this girl. Hopefully she doesn't die)>Nyx>Ella>Lisa>Kira(as a Collosus spawn, she's probably gonna progress to the point where Nico can't harm her)>>Nico(future utility team member. Been smashing for sure tho!)>Klaus Aunt(just kidding:p please ignore)>Laurie(sorry, couldn't help it)>Demi(okay, I'm done promise...)>Angelina(LMAO)>Devana(dirt, I'd smash tho.)



In my original list, I left out the twins due to my current ignorance and Claudia and Tiffany because I'm dehydrated, I guess???? I would predict that Tiffany's above Lisa and Kira at least. I would also predict that Claudia will probably have at least stalemate potential against Nico, or perhaps more. It seems she's going to be imbued with power from a former Avatar of time. If she survives, her capabilities could possibly rival Zach and potentially even equal to Deus(this is doubtful. Her mindset to me seems like it would be lacking. Also, Deus giving super extra-universal power descent vibes after I was enlightened by fellow members of this forum.)
 

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Neither can I, neither can I. I still smashed but she's a smug cunt. I would love to beat her in a fight then engage in a rough male dom hatefuck sesh. Granted, Nyx killing Ella made me even more ecstatic. Malik probably should've torched her body. I have a feeling either MC or Doll Ella is gonna use her corpse for something in the future.
She probably planned to die in Nyx's hand so she could keep her corpse intact. This is why she was so bent on fighting Nyx herself in her journal despite Nyx being a complete counter to her ability.
 
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She probably planned to die in Nyx's hand so she could keep her corpse intact. This is why she was so bent on fighting Nyx herself in her journal despite Nyx being a complete counter to her ability.
Haven't read that journal entry yet, but thanks for the info! It makes a lot of sense. Malik and Gunvald were suppose to obliterate that shit. She probably knew Xanthe couldn't help himself but to keep her corpse for study. Arrogant morons underestimating the Great Lady Ella again.
 
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Her memory. Not the physical brain damage. Ella did that.
ohhh i wonder if mc can do that after the dream arc and when he gets back to the real world. plus he did fix someone's throat which has stuff that connects to the brain and that was before the monster world or dream arc so maybe he will be able to do more now without deryls help.
 

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Creation must be the weakest of all traits by far. I can't think of another trait it can beat while they're both on a level playing field. Fantasy seem pretty weak as well too.
Creation is not weak. From what Syla said Creation has one of the highest potentials among the traits and could even be more dangerous than Destruction.
 

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Okay so.

1. I never said natural evolution carried no risk. You decided I did.

2. I didn't say evolving via serum reduced power levels. Again, you decided I did. I said evolving earlier than you should had less power to magnify. If you multiply 10 by 5, you'll get more than multiplying 7 by 5.

If you're gonna argue with people, try not to put words in their mouth.
1. You mentioned the serum carries risk. I don't know why someone would do that when talking about how serum evolutions are inferior, unless they're implying that natural evolutions don't carry that risk.

2. I know what you said. You were referring to total power being lower, but that's still not true because your power accumulation increases.
Henri has more power because he evolved in a week than he would if he stretched out his evolutions. His trait might be more unstable, and he might have less techniques, but his 'power points' are higher.
 
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ohhh i wonder if mc can do that after the dream arc and when he gets back to the real world. plus he did fix someone's throat which has stuff that connects to the brain and that was before the monster world or dream arc so maybe he will be able to do more now without deryls help.
I would imagine that upper brain structures are substantially more complex than the area of Laurie's head that he healed, but his abilities have certainly developed greatly since then. I would love to since his capabilities with the bodies of other's now. Can't make any romance interests breasts much bigger except maybe Demi's and Mia's. They all stacked. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Creation is not weak. From what Syla said Creation has one of the highest potentials among the traits and could even be more dangerous than Destruction.
I hear you, but sometimes, potential don't mean much. One should kill all enemy Creation traits on sight. Don't even give them an opportunity to work towards your demise. Creation has high potential, but they usually need a shit load of time to utilize it as Deryl has shown plentifully. Don't give them that time. SLURPEE TIME!:LOL:
 
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