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WW said that the ability to turn Nikki into a girl will likely be locked to choosing Body as your monster parent, among other scenes like it. In exchange, having Memory as a monster parent will give you access to more skill points.
Can you remind me who is Nikki again?
 

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Any sort of justification and attempt by the dev to paint Jared in a better light will likely contain shifting the blame from his action to his father and his upbringing, I believe he hints at this sometimes as Jared often turned meek and downright frightened when his father was in the picture.

But damn if Weid isn't gonna have to do some heavy lifting writing wise to make people change their minds about Jared.
When I read through the latest update and uncovered Danu's backstory I was sure most people were gonna spare her, but reading through the comments it seems I was wrong, most of you let Alice execute the bitch, ofc I did too but was surprised I was in the majority.

And I doubt even the best of writers could make a backstory for Jared that is sadder than Danu's, so big doubt from me.
Ok, late to the party but hear me out. Gender bender Jared for redemption. Big Titty blonde Jared.
 

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His crocodile skin isn't "supercharged" untill he starts mixing it with other items. It is wholely inadequate and he ends up healing through the damage that gets through, which is a lot. Im pretty sure even bullets get through it when he escapes the police at the mall. Everything he makes in the first 2 levels aren't even covered with real metal.
No, it is specifically stated that his "black flesh" makes everything stronger. My point isn't that his level two armour is invincible, but that it's obviously not black just because it looks cool. He's doing something to it.
If what he's using at the second level is so weak, then how the hell did he bust through Valravn's mystical plate armour? Plate armour that is apparently capable of withstanding Deryl Rebis' plasma cannon. I know he has the mantis shrimp mechanic enhancing the kinetic force of his blow, but he's still using something that you're claiming isn't "even real metal".

And? You know how i feel about Jake taking the venom, that its weak and ineffective. If it was strong, him taking alot of it would give him durability, but since it isn't, it doesnt.
Except... it is strong. As I pointed out, the venom incapacitates a large and sturdy human almost instantly.

They are LITERALLY experimental antispawn/antimonster guns, developed to fight against them, its in their introduction. Its stronger against MC because he is genetically weak to electricity, but it would still damage spawn.
Yes, but they're also designed to have direct hits, not graze the target.

Yes, machine guns of all calibers put gaping holes in people. Have you seen a gunshot wound?
We're specifically talking about grazes you fucking idiot, because you can't hit Jake with a direct shot.

Also, why would there be a conceivable difference between directing several whips to attack someone, versus pulling several triggers and spraying? Id imagine the pulling triggers would be EASIER, let alone harder. He literally has access to the memories of the guard he stole the body from, if he bothered to take a second to read them (or devoured his brain).
Yes, it is easier, and that's the problem. The easier it is, the harder it would be to focus intently on it to keep yourself from being affected by Jake's passive protection. Especially with how quickly you're firing bullets from multiple assault rifles.

Also, i say "his poison attacks are weak, he should have used something else" and you somehow think to ask "Why are we talking about what he could have done before the fight?". Why do you think? HE STARTED THE FIGHT WITH POISON, THEN CONTINUED TO USE IT WHEN HE SAW IT WASN'T WORKING. I of course mean he shouldn't have used poison at all, especially to start the fight, and he should have brought explosives smuggled inside his body. After the fight started, he of course can't run off to get explosives, but he could still use the spawn guns that were in the room.
The bolded part (and other prior statements) is what makes me think we're talking about what he should have done during the fight, not before it.
 

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No, it is specifically stated that his "black flesh" makes everything stronger. My point isn't that his level two armour is invincible, but that it's obviously not black just because it looks cool. He's doing something to it.
If what he's using at the second level is so weak, then how the hell did he bust through Valravn's mystical plate armour? Plate armour that is apparently capable of withstanding Deryl Rebis' plasma cannon. I know he has the mantis shrimp mechanic enhancing the kinetic force of his blow, but he's still using something that you're claiming isn't "even real metal".


Except... it is strong. As I pointed out, the venom incapacitates a large and sturdy human almost instantly.


Yes, but they're also designed to have direct hits, not graze the target.


We're specifically talking about grazes you fucking idiot, because you can't hit Jake with a direct shot.

Yes, it is easier, and that's the problem. The easier it is, the harder it would be to focus intently on it to keep yourself from being affected by Jake's passive protection. Especially with how quickly you're firing bullets from multiple assault rifles.


The bolded part (and other prior statements) is what makes me think we're talking about what he should have done during the fight, not before it.
Yes, it makes everything "stronger" in lore, but that means nothing in practice. He is repeatedly injured and damaged through his basic crocodile skin armour. Literally everything he fights goes through it, even basic bullets. He is able to defeat valravn with fast dodges and mantis punches, and each mantis punch destroys his arm. The only reason he is able to use those efficiently is because he has went through like 6-7 more training cycles after jakes fight, before the mall incident.

Yes, a large guard instantly, and a weak, completely non-physical level 2 in like 30-60 minutes (not fatally, btw) with bleeding and gas poisoning and impalement wounds to help. Its very strong. Funny how two genetically different beings handle poison differently. Almost like being superhuman makes you, i dunno, STRONGER AND MORE DURABLE.

"Meant for direct hits"? You mean like every other weapon in existence? Do you know why a bulletproof vest is a vest and not assless chaps? Its suprisingly NOT because of fashion, but because that is where all your gooey "need it to live" parts are! Of frickin course it was meant for center mass, but a electric plasma cannon shot to a leg is just as useful, what with the decreased ability to dodge.

Firstly, EVERY weapon can graze someone, and when a bullet grazes you, it leaves a hole where it does. Those bleed, bad. Secondly, not being able to hit his core vitals does not mean you can't hit his legs and arms (there wouldn't be any grazes from any weapon otherwise), and finally, a machine gun has bullet spread. Do you know what that means? Do you know why the millitary decided to invest more in assault rifles with full auto instead of sniper rifles? Because full auto guns tend to wobble back and forth, SPREADING (hence "bullet spread") lead over a target area. Trained people can make this area smaller, but in practice it is a luck based weapon group. Jakes weakness? When a weapon has a mechanical aspect to aiming, ie deryls traps, or the wobble of a gun from recoil. MC would only have to aim near jake and he would still be hit, sometimes even in the chest.

When i mentioned poison, literally every time he used it on Jake, there was a better option, be it an armoury before the ambush, be it two anti spawn guns after it, be it backing off and letting deryl fight for him, every single time he used it he could have found a better way. I am not talking about just a single moment.
 

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No he didn't? I swear half the things you been saying about what WW said on stream has been wrong
Yeah, not going to even lie. That's weird behavior. I'm not even sure why he's trying to frame WW response like that. WW himself said it was his own fault for not explaining it well in game. And he even said that he rather have people criticizing his work. Not that he has a problem with it. It more seems like people are taking WW reading someone else comment out loud as his own words. Hell, even the "stuck in their heads" part was about other creators.

That's honestly why you should take what some people cite from the stream with a grain of salt. That includes even things I say myself. Unless they have the timestamp of where it was said. Which, speaking of, here's the timestamp of said part of the stream:


In case the link messes up. The part was at 39:16 of the .
 

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No, it is specifically stated that his "black flesh" makes everything stronger. My point isn't that his level two armour is invincible, but that it's obviously not black just because it looks cool. He's doing something to it.
If what he's using at the second level is so weak, then how the hell did he bust through Valravn's mystical plate armour? Plate armour that is apparently capable of withstanding Deryl Rebis' plasma cannon. I know he has the mantis shrimp mechanic enhancing the kinetic force of his blow, but he's still using something that you're claiming isn't "even real metal".


Except... it is strong. As I pointed out, the venom incapacitates a large and sturdy human almost instantly.


Yes, but they're also designed to have direct hits, not graze the target.


We're specifically talking about grazes you fucking idiot, because you can't hit Jake with a direct shot.

Yes, it is easier, and that's the problem. The easier it is, the harder it would be to focus intently on it to keep yourself from being affected by Jake's passive protection. Especially with how quickly you're firing bullets from multiple assault rifles.


The bolded part (and other prior statements) is what makes me think we're talking about what he should have done during the fight, not before it.
At this point the guy's just being dense on purpose. Anyone who insists that guns would work on Jake at all despite an entire room of soldiers with automatic weapons mag dumping him and failing to even graze him once was never serious to begin with. Unless you get some entertainment value out of debating you might as well give up because at this point he's just ragebaiting.
 

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Yeah, not going to even lie. That's weird behavior. I'm not even sure why he's trying to frame WW response like that. WW himself said it was his own fault for not explaining it well in game. And he even said that he rather have people criticizing his work. Not that he has a problem with it. It more seems like people are taking WW reading someone else comment out loud as his own words. Hell, even the "stuck in their heads" part was about other creators.

That's honestly why you should take what some people cite from the stream with a grain of salt. That includes even things I say myself. Unless they have the timestamp of where it was said. Which, speaking of, here's the timestamp of said part of the stream:


In case the link messes up. The part was at 39:16 of the vod.
Felt like the dude just wanted certain people to shut up (me lmao). Very weird to say the least, but even if it was true, i wouldn't care. Authors retain the right to change what they want when they want (good for them, it would be shite if they couldn't), and peons like me retain the right to blab on forums.
 
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At this point the guy's just being dense on purpose. Anyone who insists that guns would work on Jake at all despite an entire room of soldiers with automatic weapons mag dumping him and failing to even graze him once was never serious to begin with. Unless you get some entertainment value out of debating you might as well give up because at this point he's just ragebaiting.
When did a group of soldiers mag dump Jake? Also, were those groups of soldiers level 2 superhumans who broke his control? I doubt it.

Bruh, why would i need to rage bait people on a porn forum? These people replied to me, first. Why am i at fault for replying? This aint that serious.
 

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When did a group of soldiers mag dump Jake? Also, were those groups of soldiers level 2 superhumans who broke his control? I doubt it.
Jake "Nngh- What the hell?!"
You "Do it! Shoot him!"
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"*BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG*"
"A storm of gunfire rains down on Jake, thousands of bullets pumped out of hundreds of high-powered rifles, fire at my command."
Jake "*cough*"
"Except they all miss. Every single bullet misses their mark, leaving the area around Jake littered with holes."
 

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Thanks, for answering, but regular humans dont have the mental strength to actually want to hit him. He was literally overwhelmed by H.E.R.O soldiers later in the story, its how they caught him.
 

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Felt like the dude just wanted certain people to shut up (me lmao). Very weird to say the least, but even if it was true, i wouldn't care. Authors retain the right to change what they want when they want (good for them, it would be shite if they couldn't), and peons like me retain the right to blab on forums.
The stream happened 3 days ago so I have no clue if it was aimed at you or not, honestly. But he was clearly taking WW words out of context there and just generally stirring shit up for no reason. Especially when you actually watch the vod and see the context.
 

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The stream happened 3 days ago so I have no clue if it was aimed at you or not, honestly. But he was clearly taking WW words out of context there and just generally stirring shit up for no reason. Especially when you actually watch the vod and see the context.
Dunno. I decided to start actually participating in forum content a couple days ago, after years of being down in the dumps lurking, and he started it right around when i started talking to all these people.
 

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Thanks, for answering, but regular humans dont have the mental strength to actually want to hit him. He was literally overwhelmed by H.E.R.O soldiers later in the story, its how they caught him.
Kind of irrelevant. Your argument was that it didn't matter if they wanted to hit Jake because the factors of bullet spread and recoil would cause involuntary movements that'd make their aim veer off course and hit Jake anyway. It's not a bad argument to be fair, the MC essentially used the momentum from his superhuman speed in a similar way.

Also Jake wasn't overwhelmed by multiple H.E.R.O. soldiers. The Level 5 Alexis Allaband personally pulled up to deal with him because he successfully messed with her head, and she took it hella personally.
 

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Kind of irrelevant. Your argument was that it didn't matter if they wanted to hit Jake because the factors of bullet spread and recoil would cause involuntary movements that'd make their aim veer off course and hit Jake anyway. It's not a bad argument to be fair, the MC essentially used the momentum from his superhuman speed in a similar way.

Also Jake wasn't overwhelmed by multiple H.E.R.O. soldiers. The Level 5 Alexis Allaband personally pulled up to deal with him because he successfully messed with her head, and she took it hella personally.
But you have to be able to actually go against his control to aim anywhere close enough to hit him via recoil. Mc would be able to force it close enough to do so. Also, thank you for acknowledging its efficacy.

Might very well be wrong, but i remember him saying something close to "once they found me they kept coming, i couldn't do anything" or something close to that. Dunno, my eyes glaze over when talking to jake. The only reason he is alive in my playthrough is for mia. The instant i get the chance to kill him again later, im taking it.
 

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Yeah, not going to even lie. That's weird behavior. I'm not even sure why he's trying to frame WW response like that. WW himself said it was his own fault for not explaining it well in game. And he even said that he rather have people criticizing his work. Not that he has a problem with it. It more seems like people are taking WW reading someone else comment out loud as his own words. Hell, even the "stuck in their heads" part was about other creators.

That's honestly why you should take what some people cite from the stream with a grain of salt. That includes even things I say myself. Unless they have the timestamp of where it was said. Which, speaking of, here's the timestamp of said part of the stream:


In case the link messes up. The part was at 39:16 of the .
Ah, that makes sense. I was only half paying attention.

Maybe someday I'll be as good at spreading misinformation as WW himself.

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Oh, someone asked WW if Deryl is the strongest member of the group since he can make nukes. He said definitely not because of Alice, but he might have the biggest AoE of the group. I guess this means monster Alice is stronger than a nuke. Time stamp is about 1:08:30.

Sorry for just posting a bunch of quotes in the forum recently. I had asked WW some questions on stream, but had to immediately go to work so I never heard the answers to any of them. So I kept hunting through the stream trying to find them. Turns out he didn't even understand my question, very sad.
 

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At this point the guy's just being dense on purpose. Anyone who insists that guns would work on Jake at all despite an entire room of soldiers with automatic weapons mag dumping him and failing to even graze him once was never serious to begin with. Unless you get some entertainment value out of debating you might as well give up because at this point he's just ragebaiting.
Yeah, when I read the first few sentences of his reply, I literally thought it's like talking to a fucking brick wall.
He's also contradicted himself multiple times. Like, my whole point talking about the guard who was instantly taken out by the venom is that Jake is notably tougher than a normal human.
Yet in reply, he acts like what I'm saying is obvious ("Almost like being superhuman makes you, i dunno, STRONGER AND MORE DURABLE. ") even though up until that point he had been arguing that Jake wasn't tough.
He also claims that guns would be able to take down Jake because of the blood loss, even though he had previously argued that spawn can lose a lot of blood and still live.
 
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