VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[obibobi]

So my thoughts on this are simple, if the story in question doesn't use physics or biology to explain it's world or setting, then no, you shouldn't need to explain it. Sure, people can come up with reasonable explanations using such, but if the story doesn't necessarily use our physics, than the author can just say, "That's not how my story works, okay?" and you have to accept that.

Superhuman, on the other hand, does use a similar enough concept of our physical universe, and in fact delves into how it's physics and biology are similar and different, enough that it could be considered disingenuous to not consider things from that perspective. After all, while the energy source for our powers is not explicitly stated, it has been explained that you cannot bend or break the laws of physics until you are at least a level 4 or 5, respectively, superhuman. I'm not saying you have to, but in this or other threads where the story is somewhat based in real or imagined science, it's not fair to the game to not consider it.

I think you're missing my point in that you can over analyse it, there come's a point where its just pedantic, looking at it in way that no setting with powers will hold up to without being exceedingly because such a setting would waste 90% of its time on explaining.

Many of the characters break the laws of biology and physics at level 1 but as long as it doesn't take you out of the story in the moment, its fine, that if the problem is only evident by over analysing fans like us who over analyse the details, then its not nothing issue.

Just to remind you, this is over a single cell and that I don't think the author should have to waste their time to say, well in this circumstance, the single fucking cell doesn't vanish. I could give you a reason, the MC eats food, that food doesn't vanish from existence, surely some of him has to stay.

My point being is that you can make up a reason, but for a lot of smaller or more accepted super hero tropes, the author shouldn't have to waste their time.

 

[foxz112x]

did a walkthrough get released ?

 

[Shadowdragon]

I think you're missing my point in that you can over analyse it, there come's a point where its just pedantic, looking at it in way that no setting with powers will hold up to without being exceedingly because such a setting would waste 90% of its time on explaining.

Many of the characters break the laws of biology and physics at level 1 but as long as it doesn't take you out of the story in the moment, its fine, that if the problem is only evident by over analysing fans like us who over analyse the details, then its not nothing issue.

Just to remind you, this is over a single cell and that I don't think the author should have to waste their time to say, well in this circumstance, the single fucking cell doesn't vanish. I could give you a reason, the MC eats food, that food doesn't vanish from existence, surely some of him has to stay.

My point being is that you can make up a reason, but for a lot of smaller or more accepted super hero tropes, the author shouldn't have to waste their time.

Your right, sometimes people can overanalyze media to the point of absurdity. And no, the author shouldn't have to explicitly state every reason why everything does or doesn't work. But sometimes, there's enough information that yes, people will say, "Oh, after MC had sex with Brianna at the TV station, he told her that his cum dissolves," and most people will imply that that works across the board unless otherwise contradicted. Is it probably just because WW doesn't want everyone to be pregnant in half of his scenes? Probably! But people, myself included, like to theory craft why things do or don't happen or work the way they do. I don't think this is beyond the point of absurdity myself, but I get that the line is different for everyone.

 

[Dmoll]

Man, I thought I wouldn’t think about Superhuman for the next 3 months like usual after the update, but the new gal in town Eira has drained all my patience. I’m already aching for 0.999999b for her route. I just hope Weird Man gives her one and she doesn’t get pushed into the sidechick corner. Thats probably whats gonna happen Im afraid but I still got hope.

 

[Dmoll]

I think you're missing my point in that you can over analyse it, there come's a point where its just pedantic, looking at it in way that no setting with powers will hold up to without being exceedingly because such a setting would waste 90% of its time on explaining.

Many of the characters break the laws of biology and physics at level 1 but as long as it doesn't take you out of the story in the moment, its fine, that if the problem is only evident by over analysing fans like us who over analyse the details, then its not nothing issue.

Just to remind you, this is over a single cell and that I don't think the author should have to waste their time to say, well in this circumstance, the single fucking cell doesn't vanish. I could give you a reason, the MC eats food, that food doesn't vanish from existence, surely some of him has to stay.

My point being is that you can make up a reason, but for a lot of smaller or more accepted super hero tropes, the author shouldn't have to waste their time.

Speaking about nitpicking, what bothers me always is how can MC reach supersonic and even hypersonic speeds using only wings and muscles? And also change his direction like instantly mid flight, giving him combat capabilities during flight, allowing him to fight foes like Cole and Uncle Val. That seems impossible for a flight using only wings and muscles etc, you know, usual biological stuff, no jet propulsion or some weird stuff that allows you to change direction almost instantaneously when you're at mach speeds. The MC can do this at like stage 3 evo, but physics and reality breaking stuff happens only when you reach level 4 so it wouldve been somewhat believable if he did this at lv 4. This makes his eagle form awkward too because the stuff he used to do during evo 1 and 2 using that form is something a bald eagle is not capable of doing. I know the answer is obvious that he is using supernatural powers and body trait needs that to stand a chance against other superpowers, and also to make fights entertaining and more engaging, but still this is my nitpick that bothers me.

 

[Grimnir098]

So, I'm pretty sure that KingAgamemnon is right in how Superhuman evolutions with paired twins work. Let's ask a simple question, how did Henri evolve 4 times in a week? IIRC, his evolution to level 2 might have been a stress of battle forced him to level up, but I think he was injected with a monster venom, so that might have technically been an artificial evolution. The other three, on the other hand, seem to have been because he was fighting, or was in a fight with a ton of monsters, with some implication that at least two of them were artificial evolutions. So at minimum 2 artificial, at maximum 4. Most people agree that Henri is the chimera that Tanos is jealous of his father for, so why didn't Henry go from 1 to 3, then 3 to 5, like people seem to imply from twin evolutions? Because twin evolutions force them to evolve together, not twice at once. A likely advantage of twin evolutions is that because they are bound together, they likely have a lower chance of monsterfying due to having each other to lean on. It also means that in theory, Tanos could pump out level 5's quickly, if the problem of control of their powers was of no concern to him, because each individual could have 2 artifical evolutions before they get accustomed to artificial evolutions. Devana and Evander being a perfect pair, he likely doesn't want to let them be anything other than perfect, so he has them at level 3 now so that they can reach an acceptable level of control over their powers before letting them have more serum.

Where are you getting this? I don't remember anyone stating how Henri evolved.

Also, you only get two artificial evolutions. Xanthe explicitly states this when he gives Michael his serum, because MC reached level 3 through an artificial evolution, which means he can't take the serum for level 4 or else he'll only be able to reach level 5 naturally.

 

[superfapmancer]

So, I'm pretty sure that KingAgamemnon is right in how Superhuman evolutions with paired twins work. Let's ask a simple question, how did Henri evolve 4 times in a week? IIRC, his evolution to level 2 might have been a stress of battle forced him to level up, but I think he was injected with a monster venom, so that might have technically been an artificial evolution. The other three, on the other hand, seem to have been because he was fighting, or was in a fight with a ton of monsters, with some implication that at least two of them were artificial evolutions. So at minimum 2 artificial, at maximum 4.

Well, here is what Henri says about his evolutions:

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This probably means he evolved when he went to sleep.

 

[BenoTF25]

Well, here is what Henri says about his evolutions:

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This probably means he evolved when he went to sleep.

I think some overlook the fact that Henri himself explained how he evolved and therefore how he's the faster Superhuman in do so, like your screenshot shown, he come from 1 to 5 back to back in as many nights, the thing that we could argue about is how long he was a level 1, did he evolve back and forth already as a Member of M-Division?, or did he straight up after being infected?

 

[Locaocao]

Do we know what Nikki in prison for?

 

[abirvg]

I mean...... it should be pretty self intuitive that choosing to defend the chick whos been hitting on the Mc all night from harassers would logicaly lead to a favorable increase in her relationship with him.

Oh, absolutely. If I were playing a cookie clicker, and my goal in downloading the game was to see the number go up - then definitely. The choice is self intuitive.
But if your goal is to see the most of sexual content the game has to offer then... the choice is pretty self intuitive too. You just don't help her. Just act like a shithead for no reason.

Look, I feel like we are going in circles.
I'm not trying to say that the whole game is garbage - you don't need to feel defensive over it. But I'm trying to say: if you remove this choice completely, would the game become worse? Or better?

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[BenoTF25]

It feels like The Eye is a much more powerful being than the Apostles, and has a greater purpose for the MC. Which makes it weird that an Apostle would reject someone with a connection to a greater entity (Syla, possibly). I haven't played since 0.999 (damn it's hard keeping track of the 9s), so I'm sure a lot more about The Eye has been revealed that I'm not privy too.

But the initial impression that I got was that The Eye was the MC's connection to something far greater than monsters, superhumans, and even the Apostles.

We don't know exactly how the Apostles behave around Unrelated Deities though, it might be natural for the twelve to be antagonist to them, neutral or whatever, with unrelated Deities I mean things like the Wasting Mother, Great Ocean, Plagueborn, Outer Twins(not so sure in these two.)

However, we know that the Apostles do despise the Arbiters, the 'Original' Powers to the point to spawn kill supers with split nature(like MC) as they had the Potential to inherited an original power, like Jake. Ella also mention how Arbiter's worship is taboo among Monster Kind, most assume the Eye is the Arbiter of Evolution(though I think that might be a red herring), EyeMC in BoD, mention how all the Monsters and Spawns/Supers present in Hex Dimension are 'His Tainted lineage', and how even Hex itself(plus all others) was born from him, that means that at very least, the Eye is related to Monster-Kind as a sort of Progenitor or something similar. As if it's Greater than the Apostles or not, don't think so, the Eye is clearly in an horrible state, mutilated and weakened, he need at least 'one of two things' to on it's own worlds even be able to square up against Malik, the latter being currently on an equal fight against the Wasting Mother(for what we can tell, meaning that EyeMC is far below actual Deities without whatever is he needs), that aside, if we go by the idea that the Eye is indeed the Arbiter of Evolution, the Chaos Memory shown that the Arbiters lost against the Apostles, even though they regarded them as lesser at first.

That being said, Memory seem to regard the Arbiters in a different light, as she wanted a split spawn, Body just roll with it.

 

[Jonathan Y]

Oh, absolutely. If I were playing a cookie clicker, and my goal in downloading the game was to see the number go up - then definitely. The choice is self intuitive.
But if your goal is to see the most of sexual content the game has to offer then... the choice is pretty self intuitive too. You just don't help her. Just act like a shithead for no reason.

Look, I feel like we are going in circles.
I'm not trying to say that the whole game is garbage - you don't need to feel defensive over it. But I'm trying to say: if you remove this choice completely, would the game become worse? Or better?

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Unlike the example you mentioned ( which I haven't played ), this game does not lock H scenes behind a ''bad guy'' playthrough, you can be a goody-two-shoes and only make whatever you feel are the most advantageous choices and you will still get to have the option to fuck everything that resembles a female.

And no, for the second time, that short ass interaction does not count, even the game does not register it as a actual H scene. So really, get over it.

As for my thoughts on the matter, I can see your point, and there should be a balance, however, I personaly don't necessarily see it as a design flaw, some games place some of the porn hidden behind moraly questionable or outright bankrupt choices, so what ? What's the problem ?
Yes the example you mentioned seems unbalanced, to lock the majority of the porn behind certain choice pattern I agree, but overall, I don't find it necessarily a design flaw. Just needs to be balanced beetwen what a game locks and what it gives depending on your choices.

But, again, Superhuman isn't such a game, you can be logical and good and still catch the absolute vast majority of H scenes.

Other than that interaction which I won't even count, I believe the only other porn content hidden behind ''bad choices'' are I believe one or two scenes related to bad endings, and I guess one or two NTR scenes in the very early game that nobody in this community mentions.

Which, again, don't even make up for 5% of the total scenes the game has to offer.

 

[Hazardgaming]

And here I thought that the scene where the MC “defends” Ella, had something far more interesting happening. Namely that the two other guys seemingly vanish without anyone noticing.

You know Ella.. I know Ella. Given what we know about her, what are the chances that she spared either of them if the MC decides to fight?

 

[PerpetuallyAmiss]

That might be exactly why they don't want the Eye. If they can't have full control over you, they don't want you. Most people believe that the Eye is the Arbiter of Evolution, which got ripped apart into Body and Memory by the Outer Twins, which makes us a perfect vessel for it, if we have a chance to upgrade ourselves from a two in one to the original power. If you jumped into the Chaos flames, and took the -10 power from it, it's somewhat implied that Order, Evolution, and Infinity were ripped apart before they had much chance to prepare, but there seems to have been a fourth Arbiter ready when the Outer Twins attacked, and the general consensus is that the other one who was prepared was Evolution.

Choas Flames?

 

[Tahxeol]

Choas Flames?

I heard the people of Chaos Flame were strong, but are they stronger than those of the shinobi village

Joke aside, it's in the monster world.

 

[bfc233]

(damn it's hard keeping track of the 9s)

version 0.(9)^5 would work.

No way we'll get cucked out of it that would be worst cliffhanger to date I believe.

Twins clifhanger was still worse.
That view of Amber being my first cliffhanger here may have left some... lasting impressions.

most assume the Eye is the Arbiter of Evolution(though I think that might be a red herring),

It might also be played straight. The only thing we know is that it might be the arbiter of evolution, or it might not be and we don't know.
People need to stop falling into the trap of thinking they can analyze the writing enough to predict all possible options and reason down to the right one and just roll with it.

That being said, Memory seem to regard the Arbiters in a different light, as she wanted a split spawn, Body just roll with it.

Which is still the weirdest thing to me, because Eye also implies that MC inherited his connection from mom, who, logically, inherited it from Momory. Which kind of makes me question body's motives in all of this.

What strikes me as weirder still, specially in regards to the tainted lineage comments is, how Eye also says it is MC and becomes more whole as time passes and sees all the bad ends.
That's not just one sphere higher, but at least two spheres because it's able to accurately discern all the weird godly shit going on at a glance.

 

[Zorad]

Something that stuck out to me in the update was Deryl saying that the frat house was on the edge of R&X and few people paid attention to it. Meaning that it's probably a weak point in H.E.R.O.'s defensive coverage. What do you think the odds are that the MC will have to deal with one of S.I.N.'s strike forces landing right on his doorstep? And most of the superhumans at the party are passed out drunk, meaning it will be just him and Deryl until H.E.R.O. can send reinforcements. That should give the MC plenty of pressure to evolve.

Deryl's comment made me think of that as well. In fact at one point in the conversation between MC and Dave I thought monsters would show up and kill Dave after one of his camera's flashes lol.
I can see SIN exploiting this potential weakness but I don't think it will lead to a drawn out fight that triggers the evolution. Elijah is still there and unless Nia is an undercover SIN agent, he should be able to deal with it mostly. If anything, I expect SIN to wait until they know the level 5s are out of the base before attacking. The MC would most likely be at the base by that point.

Pretty sure, WW has talked about in streams in the past, MC will be put in the wringer.. I expect MC to suffer to start it off. He loves foreshadowing events, so Dave might be getting packed, or a fakeout and another friend dies. I do not see any LIs getting killed off without MC being able to save them so... yeah male friends are in trouble lol. Also I am pretty sure he said on a past stream that Met was the only level 3 that MC could not potentially beat, plus MC got some injection that should help. Might be unpopular because they are loved around here, but HERO needs this tbh they have been wanked so hard they deserve to take some Ls tbh, they got too cocky and complacent. For a while now, I have been expecting Clark's death tbh, idk something tells me he will bite the dust... one of the good HERO members and level 5 would be a big hit. So I actually think this is where Val gets rescued too while everything will be out of order. The cliffhanger will 100% be where MC evolves lol... Wonder how the eye reacts, talking more being helpful, I actually like it how it is. Please do not do the takeover MC route. I just know the cliffhanger will hit hard.

Agreed on HERO needing a wake-up call. They knew SIN would try something and still didn't do anything to stop them. The result is what we are seeing right now. Malik and Benhardt are out and Henri's power is too dangerous to use on a not evacuated sector OR at the base. If Aglaecwif and Rebis get involved in the fight it's wraps. Not to mention the potential for Valravn, Eisheth and Ella to break out as well.

If WW has the BALLS he kills Alexis and Dexter right here, but I doubt it. We need at least one of the lieutenants to die though. Elijah, Clark and even Nico are candidates. HERO coming out of this unscathed would be extremely disappointing imo, and this comes from someone who wants the MC to stay in HERO and join one of the teams.

I don't think the evolution will be the cliffhanger, not after all the teasing in this update. Eye shenanigans could end it, though.

 

[Overlord070]

Pretty sure, WW has talked about in streams in the past, MC will be put in the wringer.. I expect MC to suffer to start it off. He loves foreshadowing events, so Dave might be getting packed, or a fakeout and another friend dies. I do not see any LIs getting killed off without MC being able to save them so... yeah male friends are in trouble lol. Also I am pretty sure he said on a past stream that Met was the only level 3 that MC could not potentially beat, plus MC got some injection that should help. Might be unpopular because they are loved around here, but HERO needs this tbh they have been wanked so hard they deserve to take some Ls tbh, they got too cocky and complacent. For a while now, I have been expecting Clark's death tbh, idk something tells me he will bite the dust... one of the good HERO members and level 5 would be a big hit. So I actually think this is where Val gets rescued too while everything will be out of order. The cliffhanger will 100% be where MC evolves lol... Wonder how the eye reacts, talking more being helpful, I actually like it how it is. Please do not do the takeover MC route. I just know the cliffhanger will hit hard.

100% agree, HERO will definitely see some casualties, and it's very much deserved with how they've circlejerked themselves throughout the story, I expect one of the level 5s to go and a few other lower ones, clark and/or elijah are my main bets, it's heavily foreshadowed at this point that nico will get knocked out or fucked up enough to screw up the portal. I also have a feeling miliken (or whatever his name is, I'm bad at remembering names, but Tiffany's dad) will bite the dust soon.

And yes people expecting level 4 MC in the next update will probably be disappointed, I also agree with you that it will be used as the cliffhanger for the next one after MC gets dicked around enough.

 

[nalgonas4ever]

Most of us are just disappointed and really want his old personality back, so we can beat the shit out of him and kill him. This cole is so lifeless and not even worth killing. Damn it I need the old cole back, I need to feel hatred for him again, revenge won't be sweet with the new one.

Really? I don't like him but it's kind of funny, I remember when you first meet him, and you congragulate about defeating Valravn and he seemed happy, you realize that these kids didn'y have much besides Ella and any kindness is something they wouldn't expect, my desicion would be a good beatdown and then camaradery against the real enemies, the japanese way sort of way.

 

[lorkdubo]

100% agree, HERO will definitely see some casualties, and it's very much deserved with how they've circlejerked themselves throughout the story, I expect one of the level 5s to go and a few other lower ones, clark and/or elijah are my main bets, it's heavily foreshadowed at this point that nico will get knocked out or fucked up enough to screw up the portal. I also have a feeling miliken (or whatever his name is, I'm bad at remembering names, but Tiffany's dad) will bite the dust soon.

And yes people expecting level 4 MC in the next update will probably be disappointed, I also agree with you that it will be used as the cliffhanger for the next one after MC gets dicked around enough.

Dexter is not gonna die, he was shown in the Claudia marriage, which it's kind of a look into the future given Claudia powers. Also, remember that there is still a lot of plot around Tiffany/Dexter to still be unravel. I don't think any captain will die, hmmm actually maybe Zack, team kronos captain, which is fighting Indra.