Overlord070

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Dexter is not gonna die, he was shown in the Claudia marriage, which it's kind of a look into the future given Claudia powers. Also, remember that there is still a lot of plot around Tiffany/Dexter to still be unravel. I don't think any captain will die, hmmm actually maybe Zack, team kronos captain, which is fighting Indra.
Right, dexter, that's his name.
I don't expect him to die off in the next update right away, but I could see it happening maybe in the one after that and Tiffany regretting her decision to dedicate so much time to killing him, but you're right that there is still a quite a bit to unravel there so maybe he just gets critically injured for now.
 

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100% agree, HERO will definitely see some casualties, and it's very much deserved with how they've circlejerked themselves throughout the story, I expect one of the level 5s to go and a few other lower ones, clark and/or elijah are my main bets, it's heavily foreshadowed at this point that nico will get knocked out or fucked up enough to screw up the portal. I also have a feeling miliken (or whatever his name is, I'm bad at remembering names, but Tiffany's dad) will bite the dust soon.

And yes people expecting level 4 MC in the next update will probably be disappointed, I also agree with you that it will be used as the cliffhanger for the next one after MC gets dicked around enough.
Yeah, I probably worded it wrong, but I do not think MC Level 4 will be the cliffhanger. More like the eye will get MC ready to evolve after MC is in despair or something, pretty cliche you see in these stories, so it does not fit WW either. You know WW actually set this up masterfully for HERO to take some Ls, Deus is also not 100% and all focused, Zack is missing. So yeah, I am expecting them to lose a few; he even introduced a few new characters. I was thinking the last update focused quite a bit on Dexter, and Tiffany... she even got some progress romance-wise. It could be more development if he bites the dust tbh, how would she feel? him dying, but not by her hands. Alexis... after romance talk, I feel like that is one of the biggest backlash when they kill of LIs with no choice to save them tbh, think he would avoid it for now. Speaking of circlejerk, WW better tread lightly with the Malik/Bernie situation, how he handles this fight/battle will tell me something I have been wondering about the game's future. I expect to see Henri finally, the last of the 3 we need to see fight.
 
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Speaking about nitpicking, what bothers me always is how can MC reach supersonic and even hypersonic speeds using only wings and muscles? And also change his direction like instantly mid flight, giving him combat capabilities during flight, allowing him to fight foes like Cole and Uncle Val. That seems impossible for a flight using only wings and muscles etc, you know, usual biological stuff, no jet propulsion or some weird stuff that allows you to change direction almost instantaneously when you're at mach speeds. The MC can do this at like stage 3 evo, but physics and reality breaking stuff happens only when you reach level 4 so it wouldve been somewhat believable if he did this at lv 4. This makes his eagle form awkward too because the stuff he used to do during evo 1 and 2 using that form is something a bald eagle is not capable of doing. I know the answer is obvious that he is using supernatural powers and body trait needs that to stand a chance against other superpowers, and also to make fights entertaining and more engaging, but still this is my nitpick that bothers me.
While it wasn't explicitly stated early on with his Eagle form, we get a good "science" explanation from the Uncle Val fight regarding his mantis punch i.e. he experiments and reinforces his body at the cellular level. But at the time he can't figure out how to do the mantis punch without breaking his arm
 

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If it took approximately 12 hours for Bernie to travel via portal to a distance of 43 billion light years, that means Nico's portals travel at a rate of 33,900,950,860,081,200,000,000 meters per hour. Or to put it another way, 31,411,500,000 times the speed of light.
"Teleportation" everyone
 

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I think some overlook the fact that Henri himself explained how he evolved and therefore how he's the faster Superhuman in do so, like your screenshot shown, he come from 1 to 5 back to back in as many nights, the thing that we could argue about is how long he was a level 1, did he evolve back and forth already as a Member of M-Division?, or did he straight up after being infected?
Henri was an evo 1 for about three months before his shit week.
 

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Dexter is not gonna die, he was shown in the Claudia marriage, which it's kind of a look into the future given Claudia powers. Also, remember that there is still a lot of plot around Tiffany/Dexter to still be unravel. I don't think any captain will die, hmmm actually maybe Zack, team kronos captain, which is fighting Indra.
It has not been revealed wether the Claudia portion of the memory routes where a look into the future, or '' a '' future, or any future at all but rather just a dream constructed out of Claudia's feelings for the Mc, it's unknown and I for one would not count on it as good prediction for future events.
 

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Which is still the weirdest thing to me, because Eye also implies that MC inherited his connection from mom, who, logically, inherited it from Momory. Which kind of makes me question body's motives in all of this.

What strikes me as weirder still, specially in regards to the tainted lineage comments is, how Eye also says it is MC and becomes more whole as time passes and sees all the bad ends.
That's not just one sphere higher, but at least two spheres because it's able to accurately discern all the weird godly shit going on at a glance.
Yeah the monster gods are all in the outer sphere. The Arbiters were just the precursors to the Apostles so they'd have been out there too. Pretty easy to infer that being more "complete" the Arbiters would also have greater awareness and influence over the universe. In those dead ends The Eye is mostly held back by it being too early for MC to bring out all its power, otherwise it seems confident that it could beat the big 3.

I don't really have anything for Body's specific motivations because we don't get as much about it as we get about Memory, but it's likely that it's just fully cooperating with Memory seeing as how it's known that the 3rd and 4th are far... friendlier? with each other than other Twin Apostles. About the inheritance of the Eye, my read on it by its own words is that it was aware of and technically connected to all branches of the spawn of the 3rd and 4th, but never truly manifested within one until it found a "perfect" host. Syla still wouldn't have been a suitable host for The Eye even if she wasn't tainted for instance. It seems very much like the 4th wanted a pure Memory Chosen as a stepping stone to get that perfect 50/50 and didn't believe Syla's child/spawn would still end up close enough after being tainted. That seems to be why the MC has been allowed to develop pretty independently from the 3rd and 4th's plans. Without knowing he was close enough, and without Ella being able to confirm he had both Apostle's traits from the start, he was allowed to do his own thing. Though in the Memory training we do see that the 3rd and 4th both value the MC VERY HIGHLY at that point, subduing the 1st when he's on the path of Authority. So if not both Apostles, the 4th probably realized he must be protected and 3rd is particularly cooperative with its Twin (and maybe particularly hates the 1st). As to The Eye integrating more with the MC, its statement is very much that it IS the MC. The stronger he gets, the more active The Eye is. Given the dead ends it's a lie of omission, but not an outright lie. Henri is after all still Henri despite inheriting Chaos, so we know it's telling at least part of the truth.

And then there's always that Too Strong Too Early dead end to look back on with every new bit of info and perspective we get. This part is all just me throwing spaghetti at the wall. It seems very much like the 3rd and 4th wanted their perfect spawn ASAP, and the Lord of Dark is actively opposed to their plans which is why it attacks if Ella immediately confirms and brings MC to them so soon. What I'm curious about is whether the 7th is actively opposed to an Arbiter or its power showing up, or if it would be fine with MC having the power of one, and specifically wants to keep an Arbiter's power away from the Apostles given that it clearly has its own individual plans.
 

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Where are you getting this? I don't remember anyone stating how Henri evolved.

Also, you only get two artificial evolutions. Xanthe explicitly states this when he gives Michael his serum, because MC reached level 3 through an artificial evolution, which means he can't take the serum for level 4 or else he'll only be able to reach level 5 naturally.
Yes, each person get 2 artificial evolutions, but if twins are connected like Devana and Evander, then each one of them gets 2 artificial evolutions. Their linked evolution likely wouldn't be considered an artificial evolution, because they aren't technically evolving because of monster materials, but because their link forces them to evolve when the other does. Thereby allowing them to have a total of 4 artificial evolutions, 2 for Devana, and 2 for Evander. Or possibly in Henri's case, 2 for him, 2 for his absorbed sibling.

Where did I get that? I think one of the Lieutenants talks about it briefly if you ask about Henri, though I can't remember when exactly. Closer to when we get sent to the monster world I think. I think you can ask about something else, but I like asking about Henri. Could be making it up, but I'm pretty sure I saw it in the game somewhere in the library.
 

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Yes, each person get 2 artificial evolutions, but if twins are connected like Devana and Evander, then each one of them gets 2 artificial evolutions. Their linked evolution likely wouldn't be considered an artificial evolution, because they aren't technically evolving because of monster materials, but because their link forces them to evolve when the other does. Thereby allowing them to have a total of 4 artificial evolutions, 2 for Devana, and 2 for Evander. Or possibly in Henri's case, 2 for him, 2 for his absorbed sibling.

Where did I get that? I think one of the Lieutenants talks about it briefly if you ask about Henri, though I can't remember when exactly. Closer to when we get sent to the monster world I think. I think you can ask about something else, but I like asking about Henri. Could be making it up, but I'm pretty sure I saw it in the game somewhere in the library.
I could understand that for Devana and Evander, but not Henri. I can't imagine how an artificial evolution would only affect his absorbed twin and not him. You realise they're sharing a body, right?
Liz couldn't even use the wakeblood because Amber's body wouldn't accept it.
 

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I could understand that for Devana and Evander, but not Henri. I can't imagine how an artificial evolution would only affect his absorbed twin and not him. You realise they're sharing a body, right?
Liz couldn't even use the wakeblood because Amber's body wouldn't accept it.
It's bernhardt that has the twin, not henri.
 
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Also, remember that there is still a lot of plot around Tiffany/Dexter to still be unravel.
My prediction is that Dexter is actually Tarnic, the first head of M-Corp. I think Tarnic monsterfied into a body snatcher and took over Dexter. What makes me think that:

- In the dream world Henri tells the MC that Bramon and Tarnic know that Henri visits the dream world. Tarnic, not Dexter.
- Dexter's personality drastically changed when he took over the company. Originally he was a doctor or scientist and had no interest in business.
- Whenever Langdon's power comes up Dexter looks like he finds something amusing.
- It always struck me as weird that Dexter never became a superhuman.
- If Dexter is actually being puppeted by his supposedly dead father it makes sense for him to power level Tiffany, presumably so he could take over her body.
 

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It's bernhardt that has the twin, not henri.
Tanos said that you wouldn't notice something special just by looking at the Superhuman with Chimerism, Bernhardt make Nico piss herself from fear with a glance, I think one could very easily tell he's a big deal.
 
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