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Acanthite

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Superhuman and 40k are honestly pretty easy to reconcile. Physics get bent and broken pretty similarly. The only big differences are in the extremes of individuals and scale of setting. Henri is the only person in Superhuman that MIGHT be able to truly harm or change a Chaos god faster than MC could, but he'd still have to do it the slow way outside the Warp, and it would take a really fucking long time because that universe is vastly more populated. Sending him into the Warp is begging for a super-apocalypse. Malik wouldn't do well in there either, he'd lose his shit pretty quick. Bernhardt could delete pretty much anything short of a Chaos god in there, but it all respawns anyway. You can't beat them by killing things unless pretty much everything capable of thought goes extinct.

The serum level 5s could mostly do fine being in the Warp and fighting most things. The highest tiers of demons wouldn't be that different from normal A and S rank monsters. They could bully Nurgle in teams and some could probably do it solo. Anyone lower than level 5 except MC and particularly strong Power/Body/Memory monsters would have to worry about Corruption for sure though. I wouldn't even include Power monsters but WW made it explicitly clear with Indra that it correlates to resisting mental powers/changes which is the only reason Syla lost.
 
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Or... Bernhardt can just somehow prevent the mentioned side effects of using Earth's entire atmosphere against Eisheth. He is, after all, a level 5, which means he is not constrained by the laws of physics.
It's also possible that being in Eisheth's domain - or whatever technique she used - was what prevented those side effects, and is why he didn't use this attack earlier.
you are presenting this as if it was some third option. it's not. it's just the view (2) that i described, phrased differently.
i have nothing against saying that the laws of physics don't apply to Bernhardt. like i said, this is the view i hold.
but if we are saying that they do not apply, then they do not apply, and we can't use them to wank Bernhardt's destructive potential to be infinite because of 'pressure of the universe' or whatever. all i'm saying is we have to be consistent
 

kazuan

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Or... Bernhardt can just somehow prevent the mentioned side effects of using Earth's entire atmosphere against Eisheth. He is, after all, a level 5, which means he is not constrained by the laws of physics.
I don't remember the wording used to describe the Planck attack(s) but I interpreterad it not as Bernhardt using all of Earths atmosphere/universes "pressure" to crush his targets but rather as Bernhardt generating pressure equivalent to those things while only using a relatively tiny amount of actual gas/atmosphere.

As per Bernhardts wiki trivia:
Planck Pressure is set at 10^113 Pa (pascals). It is the gravitational force of attraction between two equal sized universes all concentrated on one fourth of a Planck Area
There is no source listed for said trivia but assuming it is correct I doubt Bernhardt literally condensed the entire universe onto the MC during the dead end.

do you think Goku is ice level
I've heard of street/planetary level in power scaling but what is ice/tree level?
 

DrakoGhoul

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I don't remember the wording used to describe the Planck attack(s) but I interpreterad it not as Bernhardt using all of Earths atmosphere/universes "pressure" to crush his targets but rather as Bernhardt generating pressure equivalent to those things while only using a relatively tiny amount of actual gas/atmosphere.
This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.
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This is the visuals shown during the scene itself.
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kazuan

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This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.
Thank you for the source text.

So Bernhardt gathers "winds", stray gasses probably, from between galaxies to charge up his Planck Pressure but launches it as a "spear". Seems more like a pressure washer effect rather than a crushing effect.
But the main point being that he did not use a universe worth of matter for it so he almost certainly did not use a Earth worth of atmosphere to crush Eisheth.

As for the 40k discussion: There was the whole "a blow that reverberates throughout the higher plane". An argument could be made that this means Bernhardt could erase daemons rather than simply killing them and sending them back to The Warp.
 
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